paizo.com Recent Posts in Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?paizo.com Recent Posts in Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?2016-05-22T19:02:04Z2016-05-22T19:02:04ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#162016-06-17T18:24:35Z2016-06-17T18:24:35Z<p>Action Surge makes dipping into fighter for a couple levels very attractive.</p>Action Surge makes dipping into fighter for a couple levels very attractive.SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-06-17T18:24:35ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Threeshadeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#152016-06-17T11:47:31Z2016-06-17T11:47:31Z<p>And I just remembered Action surge. I really want to play that character just for a few combat encounters...</p>And I just remembered Action surge. I really want to play that character just for a few combat encounters...Threeshades2016-06-17T11:47:31ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Threeshadeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#142016-06-16T08:39:16Z2016-06-16T08:39:16Z<p>What i forgot about the Barbarian Champion is that he probably has Great Weapon Master and is raging, let's assume a frenzied rage because the Berserker path adds to his output more and he has two fighting styles, one of which being great weapon fighting. So its 24d6+19 damage actually and he has 5 or 6 attacks per round (1 + 3 Extra attacks from fighter + 1 Bonus attack from frenzied berserker + 1 as a reaction when he's attacked in melee) and rerolls all 1s and 2s on his damage rolls.
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With that number of attacks he will make a crit just a little less than once per round.</p>What i forgot about the Barbarian Champion is that he probably has Great Weapon Master and is raging, let's assume a frenzied rage because the Berserker path adds to his output more and he has two fighting styles, one of which being great weapon fighting. So its 24d6+19 damage actually and he has 5 or 6 attacks per round (1 + 3 Extra attacks from fighter + 1 Bonus attack from frenzied berserker + 1 as a reaction when he's attacked in melee) and rerolls all 1s and 2s on his damage rolls.
With...Threeshades2016-06-16T08:39:16ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#132016-06-15T19:26:46Z2016-06-15T19:26:46Z<p>Cool. Coolcoolcool!</p>Cool. Coolcoolcool!SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-06-15T19:26:46ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Threeshadeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#122016-06-15T07:07:55Z2016-06-15T07:07:55Z<p>Yes, that one.</p>Yes, that one.Threeshades2016-06-15T07:07:55ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#112016-06-14T22:01:35Z2016-06-14T22:01:35Z<p>3d8 from orc crit, 10d8 smite crit, 2d6 from <i>hunter's mark</i> 20d6 from sneak attack?</p>3d8 from orc crit, 10d8 smite crit, 2d6 from hunter's mark 20d6 from sneak attack?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-06-14T22:01:35ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Threeshadeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#102016-06-14T19:52:45Z2016-06-14T19:52:45Z<p>It's... not quite the 13d8+22d6 from the oath of vengeance assassin. And probably less reliable to get too.</p>It's... not quite the 13d8+22d6 from the oath of vengeance assassin. And probably less reliable to get too.Threeshades2016-06-14T19:52:45ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#92016-06-14T16:29:16Z2016-06-14T16:29:16Z<p>Woah!</p>Woah!SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-06-14T16:29:16ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Threeshadeshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#82016-06-14T12:59:39Z2016-06-14T12:59:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Igor Horvat wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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barbarian/champion, half orc recomended, crit fishing all the way.
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</blockquote><p>Use an ogre sized greatsword for 24d6+5 damage per crit. You'll need to reckless attack to offset the disadvantage for the oversized weapon.Igor Horvat wrote:barbarian/champion, half orc recomended, crit fishing all the way.
Use an ogre sized greatsword for 24d6+5 damage per crit. You'll need to reckless attack to offset the disadvantage for the oversized weapon.Threeshades2016-06-14T12:59:39ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Igor Horvathttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#72016-06-14T12:43:07Z2016-06-14T12:43:07Z<p>Barbarian/moon druid; what is worse then charging huge selfhealing bear?
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A charging fast moving, raging, take half damage from everything, huge selfhealing bear.</p>
<p>Eldritch knight/abjurer wizard; fullplate+shield, heavy armor mastery + arcane ward + fireball. Now thats a tank, with tank firepower.</p>
<p>Paladin/sorcerer or bard or warlock, fullplate, saves, smite + pick your poison for spellcaster.</p>
<p>barbarian/champion, half orc recomended, crit fishing all the way.</p>
<p>paladin/champion, see above,</p>
<p>spell less ranger/battlemaster, go go manuevars,</p>
<p>shadow monk/assassin, go ninja,</p>
<p>rogue(any)/warlock(devil's sight+darkness), maybe bladelock for extra attack feature.</p>
<p>wizard/druid-> Merlin,</p>
<p>warlock/sorcerer, quickened eldrith blast(pew pew lazers)</p>
<p>oathbreaker paladin/wizard-necromancer->death knight</p>Barbarian/moon druid; what is worse then charging huge selfhealing bear?
A charging fast moving, raging, take half damage from everything, huge selfhealing bear.
Eldritch knight/abjurer wizard; fullplate+shield, heavy armor mastery + arcane ward + fireball. Now thats a tank, with tank firepower.
Paladin/sorcerer or bard or warlock, fullplate, saves, smite + pick your poison for spellcaster.
barbarian/champion, half orc recomended, crit fishing all the way.
paladin/champion, see above,
...Igor Horvat2016-06-14T12:43:07ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Epic Meepo (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#62016-06-01T02:11:42Z2016-06-01T02:11:42Z<p>Warning, shameless self-promotion follows:</p>
<p>I just published some rules for <a href="http://www.dmsguild.com/product/184317/Hybrid-Multiclassing?src=slider_view" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">hybrid multiclassing</a> on the DMs Guild. If you want to build some gestalt-style combos that don't actually break the game, you may want to check it out.</p>Warning, shameless self-promotion follows:
I just published some rules for hybrid multiclassing on the DMs Guild. If you want to build some gestalt-style combos that don't actually break the game, you may want to check it out.Epic Meepo (RPG Superstar 2009 Top 16, 2012 Top 32)2016-06-01T02:11:42ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#52016-05-22T23:32:56Z2016-05-22T23:32:56Z<p>Half-orc Oath of Vengeance, of course.</p>
<p>3d8 rapier + 20d6 sneak attack + 10d8 smite + 2d6 <i>hunters mark</i> + 5.</p>Half-orc Oath of Vengeance, of course.
3d8 rapier + 20d6 sneak attack + 10d8 smite + 2d6 hunters mark + 5.SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-05-22T23:32:56ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Petty Alchemy (RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#42016-05-22T23:13:04Z2016-05-22T23:13:04Z<p>You'd have all auto-crits on surprised opponents, though the expanded crit would be nice on the following rounds.</p>
<p>A little worse (but still potent) would be Assassin Rogue // Paladin for a huge smite sneak attack critical.</p>You'd have all auto-crits on surprised opponents, though the expanded crit would be nice on the following rounds.
A little worse (but still potent) would be Assassin Rogue // Paladin for a huge smite sneak attack critical.Petty Alchemy (RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16)2016-05-22T23:13:04ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#32016-05-22T22:10:59Z2016-05-22T22:10:59Z<p>Ooh! Especially Champion with Improved Critical and Superior Critical!</p>
<p>Or would those all be auto-crits, only one of which is an auto-crit sneak attack?</p>
<p>I've been thinking about it, and I think gestalt spellcaster//spellcaster should have 2 sets of spell slots. </p>
<p>I think.</p>Ooh! Especially Champion with Improved Critical and Superior Critical!
Or would those all be auto-crits, only one of which is an auto-crit sneak attack?
I've been thinking about it, and I think gestalt spellcaster//spellcaster should have 2 sets of spell slots.
I think.SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2016-05-22T22:10:59ZRe: Forums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?Petty Alchemy (RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#22016-05-22T19:33:22Z2016-05-22T19:33:22Z<p>If you went Assassin Rogue, you'd absolutely murder surprised enemies with the Fighter full attack + action surge routine. Easily clear any room that you can surprise. </p>
<p>I'd be looking for classes that don't have uses for their bonus actions to combine with classes which do.</p>If you went Assassin Rogue, you'd absolutely murder surprised enemies with the Fighter full attack + action surge routine. Easily clear any room that you can surprise.
I'd be looking for classes that don't have uses for their bonus actions to combine with classes which do.Petty Alchemy (RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 16)2016-05-22T19:33:22ZForums: 4th Edition: Fun 5th Edition Gestalt Ideas?SmiloDan (RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2toem?Fun-5th-Edition-Gestalt-Ideas#12016-05-22T19:02:04Z2016-05-22T19:02:04Z<p>Just for fun, what do you think would be a fun gestalt combo of 5th Edition classes?</p>
<p>Remember that class features of the same name (Extra Attack, Unarmored Defense, Ability Score Increase/Feat, etc.) normally do not stack.</p>
<p>Should we also assume a gestalt spellcaster//spellcaster only gets one pool of spell shots, like multiclassed spellcasters? How about interactions between half-casters and third-casters? Pact magic?</p>
<p>Fighter//Wizards would be fun because of Action Surge and armored mages.</p>
<p>Bard//Paladin//Sorcerer//Warlocks would be fun because of all the Charisma synergies.</p>
<p>Fighter//Rogue would be a fun swashbuckler.</p>Just for fun, what do you think would be a fun gestalt combo of 5th Edition classes?
Remember that class features of the same name (Extra Attack, Unarmored Defense, Ability Score Increase/Feat, etc.) normally do not stack.
Should we also assume a gestalt spellcaster//spellcaster only gets one pool of spell shots, like multiclassed spellcasters? How about interactions between half-casters and third-casters? Pact magic?
Fighter//Wizards would be fun because of Action Surge and armored
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