A new spell, tell me what you think


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Liar Liar

School Divination; Level paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, inquisitor 1
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components S
Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target 1 humanoid creature
Duration 1 minute per level or until discharged
Saving Throw will; Spell Resistance no

The next time the target lies during the duration of the spell his or her pants burst into a blaze dealing 1d4 fire damage each round for 2 rounds until the pants are burned away. This spell does not compel the target to tell the truth or even answer you.


Looks good.

Only comment I have is that damage is a little atypical. Since two of the casters are divine, I would do this with d8s, and I would have the burning last a number of rounds equal to your 1/2 your level (max 5). Also throw in usual Reflex saves to put it out after the first round. This slightly reduces the spell's power at first level, but helps it scale for a little while afterwards.

Also, it would be hilarious to watch this actually happen.


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This seems like it should be a witch spell as well. Maybe bard, too.

It should also allow spell resistance.


The target should be restricted to somebody wearing pants. It should either fail on magical pants, or simply not burn them up.


Thank you. I wasn't happy with the damage either but I wasn't sure what was appropriate for a 1st level spell considering the damage lasts multiple rounds and isn't the main purpose of the spell anyways.

I also like the other class additions, I was trying to really limit it to appropriate classes but I definitely think those also work well with it.

I was just assuming they could put it out using normal rules for fire so didn't think about adding the text for that.
I went with will on the saving throw because it activates based on the target's intent so I thought that was appropriate, reflex might also work but I'll keep that for now at least and save ref for actually putting it out.

So here's the new version.

Liar Liar

School Divination; Level paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, inquisitor 1, witch 1, bard 1
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components S
Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target 1 creature wearing pants
Duration 1 minute per level or until discharged
Saving Throw will; Spell Resistance yes

The next time the target lies during the duration of the spell his or her pants burst into a blaze dealing 1d8 fire damage each round for a number of rounds equal to 1/2 your level (max 5) until the pants are burned away. This spell does not compel the target to tell the truth or even answer you. The target may extinguish the pants using a full round action.

edit: traded a reflex save for a full round action.


Do we also need to define "pants"? What about shorts, skirts or armored leggings? If the pants are magical, do they also get their own saving throw?


A Paladin would not light someone on fire for lying. Probably doesn't belong on their list.


range and creature touched? might want to explain the interaction on that better.

Is it creatured touch then while range tells a lie or something else?

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