Dhampires and shadows etc.


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

What happens when a dhampire is hit by a shadow or an allyp or something like that. Does a Dhampire suffer from ability damage or drain caused by exposure to negative energy? thanks


Dhampir wrote:
Negative Energy Affinity: Though a living creature, a dhampir reacts to positive and negative energy as if it were undead—positive energy harms it, while negative energy heals it.
Undead Type wrote:
Cannot heal damage on its own if it has no Intelligence score, although it can be healed. Negative energy (such as an inflict spell) can heal undead creatures. The fast healing special quality works regardless of the creature's Intelligence score.
Inflict Light Wounds wrote:
Since undead are powered by negative energy, this spell cures such a creature of a like amount of damage, rather than harming it.
Shadow wrote:
Strength Damage (Su) A shadow's touch deals 1d6 points of Strength damage to a living creature. This is a negative energy effect. A creature dies if this Strength damage equals or exceeds its actual Strength score.

Here are the relevant rules. It appears to me that the Negative Energy Affinity only applies to the Inflict spells. There's specific language in both the Undead Type and the Inflicht spells say that they cure. The Strength Damage under Shadow lacks this language.

That said, it does call it out as a "Negative Energy Effect" so it's not super clear.


Negative energy affinity means that the dhampir reacts to negative energy as if it were an undead.

Are undead immune to the strength damage of a shadow? Yes, it only affects living targets. This is stated as being a negative energy effect. Therefore, dhampirs are immune to this. Although it won't heal them, unlike inflict or channeling negative to heal undead.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Thank you. I guessed that they would have the same effect as their resistance to level drains namely they are not effected by it until it surpasses their strength score. In other words a Dhapire thief with a strength score of 12 will be fine until he takes 12 points of ability damage.

again thanks for your answers


I treat it as fully reacting to megative energy like an undead. Which caused a player who does no read his spells to cause another PC to run off into the woods with Chill Touch

Shadow Lodge

Relevant FAQ:

FAQ wrote:

Negative Energy Affinity: How is this ability (Bestiary 2, page 299) supposed to work?

The intent of this ability is that the creature is healed by negative energy (like an undead) and harmed by positive energy (like an undead); this is automatic and has nothing to do with the intent of the target or the energy-wielder. However, as written, the ability is a bit confusing because of the phrase “reacts to,” which doesn’t have a clear definition. This ability will be changed in the next printing of Bestiary 2.

Update: Page 299—In the description of the Negative Energy Affinity ability, replace the current entry with the following:

Negative Energy Affinity (Ex) The creature is alive, but is treated as undead for all effects that affect undead differently than living creatures, such as cure spells and channeled energy. Format: negative energy affinity; Location: Defensive Abilities.


Weirdo wrote:

Relevant FAQ:

FAQ wrote:

Negative Energy Affinity: How is this ability (Bestiary 2, page 299) supposed to work?

The intent of this ability is that the creature is healed by negative energy (like an undead) and harmed by positive energy (like an undead); this is automatic and has nothing to do with the intent of the target or the energy-wielder. However, as written, the ability is a bit confusing because of the phrase “reacts to,” which doesn’t have a clear definition. This ability will be changed in the next printing of Bestiary 2.

Update: Page 299—In the description of the Negative Energy Affinity ability, replace the current entry with the following:

Negative Energy Affinity (Ex) The creature is alive, but is treated as undead for all effects that affect undead differently than living creatures, such as cure spells and channeled energy. Format: negative energy affinity; Location: Defensive Abilities.

Well, that seems to change things. The shadow's strength drain ability doesn't explicitly affect undead differently than living creatures; it's just that the undead are (generally) immune to the strength damage. Seems pretty clear to me that the Dhampir are going to way to stay away from shadows.

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