# Mauler Archetype Familiars size weapon dmg

### Rules Questions

well going from tiny to medium should also increase the claw, bite, rake, sting, and what nots damage, right? where can i find this information on http://www.d20pfsrd.com?

zainale wrote:
well going from tiny to medium should also increase the claw, bite, rake, sting, and what nots damage, right? where can i find this information on http://www.d20pfsrd.com?

Natural weapons are weapons and thus follow the dice progression table for weapon size changes.

The PFSRD for Enlarge Person has the tables you are looking for.

hmmm. a tiny creature does 1d2 points of damage.if that creature goes to medium then that damage is 1d3 points of dmg. but if that creature was small it would go up 2 sizes and become 1d4. am i missing something? or missing a step?if it goes up by one size to small it does 1d3 then from small to medium it goes up two more to 1d6?

zainale wrote:
hmmm. a tiny creature does 1d2 points of damage.if that creature goes to medium then that damage is 1d3 points of dmg. but if that creature was small it would go up 2 sizes and become 1d4. am i missing something? or missing a step?if it goes up by one size to small it does 1d3 then from small to medium it goes up two more to 1d6?

If you're a tiny sized creature, and you change to a medium sized creature, you've gained two sized categories, and so increased by two dice. If you started at 1d2, then two size category increases puts your damage dice as 1d4.

that does not seem right since it says anything lower then 1d6 only goes up by one. and that is only for moving from tiny to small. that puts you at 1d3. and since i am going from tiny to medium that means i take another step from small to medium, right? small to medium then takes 2 steps from 1d3 to 1d6?

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small to medium then takes 2 steps from 1d3 to 1d6?

No, small to medium is one step, from 1d3 to 1d4.

this is whats throwing me off

If the size increases by one step, look up the original damage on the chart and increase the damage by two steps. If the initial size is Small or lower (or is treated as Small or lower) or the initial damage is 1d6 or less, instead increase the damage by one step.

i am going from tiny to small, then from small to medium.

In the transition from Tiny to Small your initial size is Small or lower, hence the damage is increased by one step.

In the transition from Small to Medium your initial size is Small or lower, hence the damage is increased by one step.

Total increase: two steps.

If you then went from Medium to Large your initial size would not be Small or lower, so you'd get another two steps.

okay thanks for chatting me though this. it was really helpful.