You have to go to the bestiary to get the stats. A core campaign means that you can not use books such as the APG or Ultimate combat when making a character. The bestiary is still an appropriate resource.
This question is answered in the Core Campaign FAQ which says "If a CRB option advises that something found in the CRB is clarified in the Bestiary, then the player uses that specific option out of the Bestiary to meet the requirement set forth in the CRB."
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For spells and class features that reference the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary, that sourcebook may be utilized with the restrictions noted in Additional Resources.Technically, the Summon spells don't reference the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary.
Thus they fail to meet the requirements found in the Blog, as well as the slightly more permissive requirements found in the Guide(v7.0).
If one was to be pedantic about things, You have NO stats for the summon spells.
{note} I am not arguing that just pointing out a weird rules interaction...
That said, I'm sure we all agree that the Bestiary is NEEDED to make the Summon spells work.
Also, since the spell does not state additional options being found in the Bestiary, we don't get any additional options, if any, from the Bestiary.
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Murdok, can you cite where in the CRB it 'defers to the Bestiary for summoning'?
I couldn't find it in my quick, by no means thorough, check through the CRB...
Didn't mean to leave you hanging. I'll get you some quotes.
Hmm...under closer inspection, my copy (second printing) of the CRB doesn't directly address this. They just list the animals that can be summoned with summon monster/nature's ally, but fail to give them rules. They also reference creature templates which are also not given rules within the CRB.
Though in fairness, the bestiary was after the CRB, but with the CRB being designed to be compatible with existing 3.5 D&D materials. So I think the lack of reference is to allow players to use the 3.5 monster manual with the CRB's summoning rules while players waited the 2 months it would take for the pathfinder beastiary to be released.
Thanks for the link... though that is just the Introducing the Core Campaign blog.
I was wondering if wraithstrike had a specific FAQ he was quoting, or not.
Given that the Blog post pre-dates the final working in the Guide, it does not 'clarify' the Guide's wording.
quote=Pathfinder Roleplaying Guild Guide v7.0, p20]Core Mode play characters may not use any feat, trait, equipment, magic item, skill, or any other rule item from a resource outside the Core Campaign Resources unless it appears on a core play Chronicle sheet. For spells and class features that reference the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary, that sourcebook may be utilized with the restrictions noted in Additional Resources. Any item appearing on a Chronicle sheet earned in Core Mode play, regardless of source, is allowed to be used by a Core Mode character, except Chronicle sheets that open new races.
And here is the important sentence...
For spells and class features that reference the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary, that sourcebook may be utilized with the restrictions noted in Additional Resources.
Technically, the Summon spells don't reference the Pathfinder RPG Bestiary.
Thus they fail to meet the requirements found in the Blog, as well as the slightly more permissive requirements found in the Guide(v7.0).
If one was to be pedantic about things, You have NO stats for the summon spells.
{note} I am not arguing that just pointing out a weird rules interaction...
That said, I'm sure we all agree that the Bestiary is NEEDED to make the Summon spells work.
Also, since the spell does not state additional options being found in the Bestiary, we don't get any additional options, if any, from the Bestiary.
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Murdok, can you cite where in the CRB it 'defers to the Bestiary for summoning'?
I couldn't find it in my quick, by no means thorough, check through the CRB...
I don't think the guy in charge of PFS is going to deny you the summon spells, but it might be worth bringing to his attention in case some GM decides to nitpick a character sheet.