Wrath AP3 Reward and Wintersun scenario (plus one other reward related question)


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Ok so the reward for AP3 is a role and a power feat, awesome. The reward for the scenario Wintersun is a power feat, also awesome.

1) Since you can do AP3 in any order, if you do Wintersun last you get both power feats at once, does this mean you could use both on a role card feat? Or does the one from Wintersun have to be used before you actually get the role? This matters particularly for characters whose only remaining feats pre-role are hand size that they may not like to take.

2) Also for AP1 and B, the reward is a card feat, so after completing the last scenario of AP1 (or B), would you first reset you deck to its proper size and number of cards and the return everything to the box before you get the AP reward? Therefore making it so you have to choose the card to fill you new card slot from the box and not from the extra cards left after beating the scenario?

These questions probably have little change in the end result of feats or deck configuration but these are the things we end up discussing while playing in our group lol.

3) Oh and one more question, can I use a blessing of Nethys to explore the chasm of shadows and just skip its ability to examine? Or would it simply not be playable there?


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

1. Incorrect. You can do the first 4 scenarios in any order, but The Ivory Sanctum must come last. As such, you will never be completing Wintersun and the adventure at the same time. So, to answer your question, the feat reward from Wintersun is on your base character card, while the feat reward from the Adventure is on your role card.

If for some hypothetical adventure you got a scenario power feat and an adventure role card+power feat at the same time, the rewards all happen at the same time and in that case you could indeed put 2 power feats on your role card (this is how I would play it should such a situation arise, I do not believe there is any official ruling on it one way or another, and an argument can be made that you apply the scenario reward before the adventure reward based on how the rulebook is worded).

2. You check off the feat before rebuilding your deck. If the card feat you checked has cards available in the pool when rebuilding, you must choose one of those cards instead of fetching one from the box.

3. Examining cards with Blessing of Nethys is not optional. As a result, you cannot play it to explore the Chasm of Shadows.

Minor nit: the abbreviation to refer to particular adventure decks is AD, not AP. e.g. AD3 would be deck 3. AP stands for adventure path which is the overall collection of adventures, e.g. the Wrath of the Righteous AP or the Rise of the Runelords AP. The More You Know...


1) Haha well that's all my bad, should learn to read. So this is a non-issue.

2) I only asked this one based on the rule book. It says "... rebuild you character deck... Put all other cards back in the box." It says this after the scenario rewards are to be obtained per the rule book. However after telling you to do this the next paragraph says "If you've successfully completed all of the scenarios on the adventure card, you earn the reward on the adventure card." If doing things in order per the book, I've already put all the cards back in the box before obtaining that reward. I doubt this was the intention, but again, this is what we discuss in our group.

3) Well I am sad to hear that, I was hoping that semicolon would allow us to still use it without examining.

** And thanks for advising me that I was putting a P instead of a D, just a plain old typo and duly noted. :)


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, PF Special Edition, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

For #2, I assure you the intent is you get the feat before rebuilding. See also this post (as well as the thread it's in)


Yeah, as stated I figured that was the intention, and overall that method's benefits far outweigh the potential benefits of doing it the other way around anyway. Cheers!


Still not 100% convinced on Nethys, but 98.5% convinced haha.

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