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lisamarlene wrote:
He buys clothes for comfort and durability and doesn't change his car because it still drives good and no one will steal it, and saves his money to go on incredible vacations that NO ONE BELIEVES HE TAKES because who would believe that this eccentric old fart went to Antarctica last year?

LOLOL. My favorite is pulling the Celica into the parking lot of Global Megacorporation HQ among all the Mercedes, BMWs, and Teslas. If anyone accuses me of making the place look bad, I just reply, "Then pay me more!"


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Old Man Henderson wrote:
This feller's startin' t' sound famil-yer.

Get off my lawn!


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NobodysHome wrote:
Old Man Henderson wrote:
This feller's startin' t' sound famil-yer.

Get off my lawn!

Hey! Both of you get off my lawn!

Scarab Sages

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So. Mugs.


Face or drinking cup?


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Woran wrote:
So. Mugs.

NEVER!!!!


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Tacticslion wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Old Man Henderson wrote:
This feller's startin' t' sound famil-yer.

Get off my lawn!

Hey! Both of you get off my lawn!

Gotta admit, though, I’m mostly weirded out by the fact that one of you is fictional and the other is in California - so, you know, also fictional - and yet somehow still on my lawn. That’s just weird.


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NobodysHome wrote:
lisamarlene wrote:
He buys clothes for comfort and durability and doesn't change his car because it still drives good and no one will steal it, and saves his money to go on incredible vacations that NO ONE BELIEVES HE TAKES because who would believe that this eccentric old fart went to Antarctica last year?

LOLOL. My favorite is pulling the Celica into the parking lot of Global Megacorporation HQ among all the Mercedes, BMWs, and Teslas. If anyone accuses me of making the place look bad, I just reply, "Then pay me more!"

If you really want to embarrass Megacorp, you should buy the truck one of my kiddos has. It is a literal horror story, and I told him I was impressed how he managed to nonchalantly make the story exponentially worse with each sentence.

Spoiler:
"I'm a little worried about the brakes. It's fine, though. There's a hole in the floor. If they go out on the highway, I can just drag my feet and Flintstone it to a stop. Every time I drive it, I learn a new thing to fix. The mechanic's given up on it, so I've stopped asking him."


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I've never owned a vehicle that was *that* bad, and that includes my '79 Ford Granada that had an impromptu electrical fire going down a back road.


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My neighbor just told me why he got rid of his 25-yr-old small truck. His brakes had a 100% failure sitting in the driveway.

Brake lines got ejected off their connection points. Master cylinder fell on the ground. Brake fluid at all four wheels and all over his driveway. Truck isn't worth the money to replace the entire brake system.

EDIT: He was in the truck at the time of it happening. The way I originally wrote it left open the possibility of vandalism, but that's definitely not the case here. He had both feet on the brake pedal, testing the pressure because he was feeling something was off, and then the right foot slipped and floored the gas. Truck didn't go anywhere, he was in park, but the brakes suffered catastrophic failure right then and there.


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The closest I ever came to death was thanks to an old car and leaky brakes.

Our 1970 Volvo had a weak valve in the master cylinder so that when you hit the brakes, you'd get them at full strength for a moment, but the pressure would drop and you'd lose the brakes, so you'd have to release them and re-apply them repeatedly for a stop that lasted longer than a second.

In short, emergency braking did not exist on that car.

Since it was basically a giant steel box, we liked to do utterly stupid things in that car. For example, the crest of Solano Avenue on Albany hill is a blind crest with a 15 mph speed limit for good reason: Visibility is truly 0.

I wanted to get the Volvo some air.

I hit the crest at 50 mph.

And on the other side of the crest, double-parked in the dead center of the street, was a full-blown flatbed semi, with the bed at just about eye level for me. I slammed on the brakes, and the brake pedal promptly hit the floor, barely slowing me below 40.

So I swerved into the parking lane and started pumping the brakes madly.

The nose of the Volvo got all the way up to about the cab of the truck before I finally came to a stop. Had there been any parked cars, I would have plowed into them at great force. Had the truck been parked 100' closer to the crest, I would have been beheaded.

I've never taken that crest at over 20 mph since then.


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In no way am I going to claim that I haven't pulled some stupid stunts while driving in my life. However, residential streets in populated areas are far less enticing to me.

When I was a teen, and therefore stupid, yeah...I did some stupid stuff on residential streets.


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Speaking of car things: I just received a call from Ford that I need my airbags changed out right away! Again! It may be spam, though, so I called the local dealership directly. It was too late to talk to the least I needed, but I have left a message and am wondering if Takata somehow managed to make dangerous airbags in an effort to replace my previous dangerous airbags.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Speaking of car things: I just received a call from Ford that I need my airbags changed out right away! Again! It may be spam, though, so I called the local dealership directly. It was too late to talk to the least I needed, but I have left a message and am wondering if Takata somehow managed to make dangerous airbags in an effort to replace my previous dangerous airbags.

It's more likely that they accidentally replaced your airbags with more of the same, not so much that they made more of the same specifically. It's also possible that they only did one side, thinking that would be ok, then realized that the other side also needs it.

I personally think the Takata situation is worse than what VW did. And what VW did is *bad*. I also don't believe they're the only auto group that's been cheating the EPA.


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Lllllllllllllllllllllovely.

Sigh.


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Oh my goodness. NH, I just got the email from GothBard with her birthday invitation. Which is technically her second invitation, after the phone call a couple of months ago.

You know I love her. SOOOOO much. I don't really do female friendships, but GothBard is different.

But I can't. There's just absolutely no way. And I don't want to hurt her feelings or for her to think I don't care, it's just not possible.

She didn't seriously think I could come, right? She just invited me so I would feel like I was still included?


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lisamarlene wrote:

Oh my goodness. NH, I just got the email from GothBard with her birthday invitation. Which is technically her second invitation, after the phone call a couple of months ago.

You know I love her. SOOOOO much. I don't really do female friendships, but GothBard is different.

But I can't. There's just absolutely no way. And I don't want to hurt her feelings or for her to think I don't care, it's just not possible.

She didn't seriously think I could come, right? She just invited me so I would feel like I was still included?

I honestly don't think she thought it out. "Will lisamarlene drive 1,700 miles in the middle of April to come to my party?"

I think what she thinks she heard is, "Oh, it just so happens that I'll be in that area at that time, so I might be able to make it."

I'd definitely just be honest and say, "There's no way I can make it."

I mean, even if you're staying in the Bay Area at that time, there's your kids, there's driving to and from Napa, yadda yadda yadda. The logistics are just nightmarish already, and we haven't even started in on the price of anything remotely related to Napa. (Yeah, I'm betting Napa Auto Parts is overpriced, too. Because why not?)

So she made a list of around 15 people she wanted there, and you were on the list.

Don't feel bad about saying, "No." Most people will.

I mean, let's be blunt: She's inviting a grand total of 38 people to a good restaurant in Napa, and she's insisting we make reservations for 24, even though it's "pay your own way". Looking at the list, I don't think we're going to hit a dozen people at the dinner. But she's an eternal optimist about such things, so we'll reserve a bunch of tables in January, then cancel most of them in February, while the restaurant still has plenty of time to fill up the lost seats.


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Is that the good moment to invite you all to my birthday party one month from now?


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Drejk wrote:

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Is that the good moment to invite you all to my birthday party one month from now?

Road trip!!!!


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Drejk wrote:

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Is that the good moment to invite you all to my birthday party one month from now?

You joke. Someday, when I save up enough money, I'm coming to Poland, to see my grandparents' hometowns, and Jasna Gora (for my grandmother), and I'm going to ask you to (a) tell me where to get really good czarnina, and (b) show me your city. You'll suffer through showing a clueless American around for a day, yes?


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As soon as I figure out which highway connects to Poland I'm set.

Sczarni

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Under construction.


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lisamarlene wrote:
Drejk wrote:

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Is that the good moment to invite you all to my birthday party one month from now?

You joke. Someday, when I save up enough money, I'm coming to Poland, to see my grandparents' hometowns, and Jasna Gora (for my grandmother), and I'm going to ask you to (a) tell me where to get really good czarnina, and (b) show me your city. You'll suffer through showing a clueless American around for a day, yes?

(b) isn't an issue, (a) is because I have no clue where to get good czarnina...

and I might or might not find "good czarnina" an oxymnoron. Yuck.


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Almighty Janitor wrote:
Under construction.

That basically sums ump Polish highway system since I can remember.


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Drejk wrote:
Almighty Janitor wrote:
Under construction.
That basically sums ump Polish highway system since I can remember.

Though supposedly it got better since we joined EU. I don't really know, I don't drive and I rarely get out of Kraków since we stopped family trips last millennium.


Do you Discord?


Tacticslion wrote:
Do you Discord?

Nope. The kids are on it all the time, but we tried it and the sound quality was awful, the connection mechanisms were unintuitive and arcane, and Shiro already had a Teamspeak server running on his home machine that was superior in every way.

So I've tried to use Discord twice, and both times I gave up after 10-15 minutes and uninstalled it as crapware.


Wow! Harsh! ... but it seems you gave it a fair shake!

Alas, that would be an easy way to transfer things. XD

(But I've never actually used the sound of any sort whatsoever, so I can't comment on that at all.)


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Personally, I find Google Drive to work really well for such things. The notion of letting Discord transfer files onto my machine is... worrisome at best...

The worst Google does is spy on me.


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(Google Drive doesn't let me put anything else on it. It tells me that I'm a bad person and I work it too hard.)


Do you ever do Eberron as a campaign setting?

Any of the non-Golarion published settings?

Which and why?


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So, I really want to go deeply into this, but I have to pick up Gothbard in just a couple of minutes, so I have to keep it succinct.

In general, I despise campaign settings because players who care more than I do (both PCs and GMs) study everything they can about the setting, and then use it to lord it over me if I get anything wrong. I love the Runequest game system, but I despise Glorantha because it's become so mythic to the people who play regularly that statements such as, "How can you not know THAT?" are commonplace.

My favorite example: As part of advanced Runequest play, you're supposed to go on "Hero Quests" that emulate the actions of your chosen god. Except... those of us who don't care that much don't know any of the lore, so our hero quests always fail because "your god did this idiotic thing and you failed to copy it", while players who have played for years duplicate their god's stories perfectly and get immensely powerful.

It's incredibly frustrating to play in a published setting because people care more than I do, so I prefer not to.

Thus, I don't even know what Eberron is, except that Freehold loves/hates it. I ignore all discussions of published settings.

Golarion has been a bit of a miracle for me, probably because my current gaming group all started it together, except I got a 2-year head start running the family game and I got to make stuff up as I went along.

But even then (and I won't name any names, so let's just call the person Clingy Lizard), some players look stuff up on the Pathfinder wiki, and then insist that the way I'm running a region is "wrong" because it's "not canon".

I'd like to build my own world, put in my own NPCs, and have it work the way I want it to. Paizo did a really good job with a lot of its early descriptions of cities in that they said, "Here are a dozen important NPCs, here's what the town is like, you get to build the rest."

That's the kind of campaign setting I like.

If everything is set in stone and I get criticized for deviating from the published norm, I get uppity and want to drop the setting.


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Oh jeez, this is like... THE summary of every headache I've ever had with dealing with players on my NWN server, since it's set in Forgotten Realms.

I've lost count of the number of times I've had to deal with superfans of the setting complaining about something we've chosen to do or the ways our DMing or storytelling has deviated from the canon presentation of the setting. And that's not even getting into the changes that have come from edition to edition.


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And Forgotten Realms, due to its age and overall popularity, is most likely the setting with the worst offenders in that regard.

It's one of the reasons I thought Planescape was so good. Since the planes are infinite, it really didn't matter how much definition they gave areas, the rest was entirely up for grabs. Even in the defined areas like Sigil they made a point of mentioning neighborhoods coming and going, areas being destroyed and rebuilt for another purpose...it was completely expected for you to make it what you needed it to be for the moment.

Golarion's strength, in addition to what NH mentioned, is the kitchen sink approach. You want orc hordes? We got it. You want gothic horror? Cross over to this country. Desert adventure? Head on south...but not too south. It just has a little something for everyone without needing to release 47 competing settings.


Yeah, super-fans can really be frustrating.

I should know - I'm one of them!

I love all sorts of published settings (though not all published settings), but there's a fine line - you have to be able to play the game; even though I try and keep with the lore, sometimes it's just not possible (or not feasible), and some settings, like Eberron, make it actively impossible.

Baker, the creator of Eberron, for instance, has gone to great lengths in every post to go, "Well, this isn't technically official, but in my Eberron, I do <X>; that said, here are one-dee-four other interpretations that are also probably totally correct and canon, even though they entirely contradict everything I just said, also each other." Even when it drives me up a wall, I appreciate the fact that he's cognizant of the power he could wield and intentionally sets it so that 'canon' is fluid and means less, while still granting deep lore dives.

Part of the issue with pretty much anything is that people get... attached to their view of a thing. This is true for comics, films, television series, video games, and pretty much anything else. That deep passion - the same drive that creates a strong and good emotional connection - can turn toxic and enforce negativity in people if it differs. As a for instance, see all the Star Wars hate/love; the vast majority of vocal Undertale and/or Rick & Morty fandoms; etc.; and on a personal note, I hated the film's Nick Fury at first, though now, not only was I forced to admit he's better - he's hands-down my favorite version.

This is the exact same reaction you can follow when children are upset that something doesn't go their way, or how they expected. Often, this negative reaction even comes up when it's a good thing (see me and Nick Fury, above). It is normal. It is human. It is also childish. (It can be seen in plenty of non-fan places as well; it's called "literally everywhere" but finding it in fandoms is easier.)

Regardless... you cannot - absolutely cannot - force compliance with a setting with people that aren't as invested in it as you are. Any denigration of people for being less well-versed in a setting is just poor form. You can ask, point out, or discuss things, but you can't presume - well, you can, but it's important that you remain flexible enough to alter, if you do. And that flexibility is easily something that is lacking in many instances of fandom. People become so attached to "canon" as a concept that they find any deviation lacking.

I will refrain from political or religious talk, but it's on full display in both as an easy every-day thing you can point to.

And sometimes it is valid and serious and reasonable. Much of the time... it is not.

I'm sorry for all your bad experiences - I've had quite a few, but my worst experiences mostly came from people who simply couldn't play well with others, rather than super-fans turned toxic (though I've had those, too).

I love published settings because they give me a framework to build from. Sure, I could just paint on the sidewalk with whatever I find lying around, but having a canvass on a frame with prepared colors is nice and inspiring, and also helps give me focus and energy for other tasks - at least to me. Well, sometimes. So long as the canvas isn't bad and the colors aren't unpleasant. :V

(But having someone repeatedly come out and point out that you suck at painting the Mona Lisa exactly like Leonardo DiVinci doesn't help you paint any better - it just makes you hate that painting and artist and the people who revere him.)


Vanykrye wrote:

And Forgotten Realms, due to its age and overall popularity, is most likely the setting with the worst offenders in that regard.

It's one of the reasons I thought Planescape was so good. Since the planes are infinite, it really didn't matter how much definition they gave areas, the rest was entirely up for grabs. Even in the defined areas like Sigil they made a point of mentioning neighborhoods coming and going, areas being destroyed and rebuilt for another purpose...it was completely expected for you to make it what you needed it to be for the moment.

Golarion's strength, in addition to what NH mentioned, is the kitchen sink approach. You want orc hordes? We got it. You want gothic horror? Cross over to this country. Desert adventure? Head on south...but not too south. It just has a little something for everyone without needing to release 47 competing settings.

This is absolutely one of the great things about Golarion, yeah!


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Golarion feels artificial to me.

Faerun (while a kitchen sink itself too, though lesser than Golarion) feels much more organic to me, with smoother interaction between regions.

I had more issue with people refusing to play in Faerun because of the perceived reasons that NobodysHome said, than actually experience them myself.

Runequest seems almost unknown in Poland by the way. I'd like to GM or play it... :(

That issue is also a big part of why I find Chronicles Of Darkness (or "The Systems Previously Know As New World Of Darkness") over World Of Darkness (aka "Classic World Of Darkness"). The former was fully designed as a toolbox, modular and adjustable to fit the Storyteller's needs, instead of chaotic mishmash of crossing streams of plots, npcs I don't care for, and chaotic design.


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Drejk wrote:
I had more issue with people refusing to play in Faerun because of the perceived reasons that NobodysHome said, than actually experience them myself.

Consider yourself fortunate. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to deal with that sort of thing...

On the opposite hand, I've also had to deal with people who completely throw the setting out and want to do crazy things that don't fit at all with the way anything works.

Most of our players and DMs thankfully are in a happy medium - acknowledging the setting and trying to work within its design without being straightjacketed by it - but there's always been people going to one side or another to annoying extreme.


Well, the one guy didn't need to talk about anything, but I figured I'd bump this anyway.

Happy, uh, March 9th, I guess, NH! Hurray!


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Er, if it's what I think you're talking about, you're off by 8 days.

June 20, 2017 -> June 20, 2019 = 730 days
to July (30), August (31), September (31), October (30), November (31), December (30), January (31), February (31) = 245 days
February 21-29 = 9 days
March 1-9 = 9 days
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TOTAL = 993.

So I'm on day 993. It's another week before I hit day 1000 and 8 days until I have "1000 completed days".

(And beware getting me started on THIS thread, where I can rant about politics all I want (mods willing). After Vanykrye's post about the woman traveling while knowing she was sick, I saw ANOTHER article about Missouri where a dad had one daughter who was being tested so the doctor asked the entire family to self-quarantine, and instead he and his OTHER daughter went to a social gathering and then a father-daughter dance. And of course the test came back positive so now there's a whole school of potential infections...)


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NobodysHome wrote:

Er, if it's what I think you're talking about, you're off by 8 days.

June 20, 2017 -> June 20, 2019 = 730 days
to July (30), August (31), September (31), October (30), November (31), December (30), January (31), February (31) = 245 days
February 21-29 = 9 days
March 1-9 = 9 days
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TOTAL = 993.

So I'm on day 993. It's another week before I hit day 1000 and 8 days until I have "1000 completed days".

(And beware getting me started on THIS thread, where I can rant about politics all I want (mods willing). After Vanykrye's post about the woman traveling while knowing she was sick, I saw ANOTHER article about Missouri where a dad had one daughter who was being tested so the doctor asked the entire family to self-quarantine, and instead he and his OTHER daughter went to a social gathering and then a father-daughter dance. And of course the test came back positive so now there's a whole school of potential infections...)

If I'm not mistaken, and I very well might be, I think that's all from the same family as the traveler I mentioned.

EDIT: Yes, confirmed. Since she had exposed the entire household, they wanted them all to self-quarantine. Dad and sis went to the school dance over the weekend. That school was closed today, but they just potentially exposed everyone at that dance to it.

This traveler was St Louis area's first confirmed case, so they weren't thinking about cancellation of events like they have been in other places.


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NobodysHome wrote:

Er, if it's what I think you're talking about, you're off by 8 days.

June 20, 2017 -> June 20, 2019 = 730 days
to July (30), August (31), September (31), October (30), November (31), December (30), January (31), February (31) = 245 days
February 21-29 = 9 days
March 1-9 = 9 days
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TOTAL = 993.

So I'm on day 993. It's another week before I hit day 1000 and 8 days until I have "1000 completed days".

Nope! I was just saying "happy today" because today happened to be when I was posting here. But! Happy week-until-1k! WOO~! SO DAGGUM HYPE!

NobodysHome wrote:

(And beware getting me started

Well, I mean, it is your thread...

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