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I'll take a Shepherd's Pie, and I'd love to try the Pastitsio and Jamaican curried meatloaf. You know, if you were cooking for all of us.


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Curried meatloaf sounds like a bit of alright!


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Terrinam wrote:
If you turned Oompa-Loompas into dire honeybadgers, would they sing and dance about how much they don't care as they maul the PCs?

Absolutely.

And even better, you could videotape the necessary cross-breeding and sell it as fetish porn, turning a profit as you turned the PCs into chum.

Hey, is it possible to get your own thread locked if you say something vile enough? Hmm....


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lisamarlene wrote:

Some questions regarding the COCT game on the sixth...

Shall I bring food,
and if so, which of these sounds most appealing:
Chicken pot pies
Pastitsio (Greek lasagna, contains bechamel sauce and nutmeg, which not everyone is into, but I like it)
Shepherd's Pie (with actual shepherd on top)
Jamaican curried meatloaf

(Yes, like the proper little Hobbit I am, I tend to make higher-fat food in the winter.)

Oh, gods. NobodysWife is a Shepherd's Pie fiend, while Impus Major is a "pot pie a day" kind of guy.

I'm going to go with Shepherd's pie, because it's impossible to get decent store-bought stuff.


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Open mouth, insert delicious food... :)

Wonder how dire honey badgers feel about badgerdiles (I had a NE dwarven druid character create badgers with the saurian template, cause, badgerdiles, it was for a Paizocon arena battle style event. My crazy creation won! all participants had lots of fun so I heard, twas last year's Paizocon :) )

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Removed a post for using a derogatory word for a transgender person. Please be mindful of and respectful with the language you use on paizo.com.


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NobodysHome wrote:
Hey, is it possible to get your own thread locked if you say something vile enough? Hmm....

Eep! Kidding, Sara Marie! Kidding!

No Oompa Loompas were harmed in the making of this post.


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He's lying.

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NobodysHome wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Hey, is it possible to get your own thread locked if you say something vile enough? Hmm....

Eep! Kidding, Sara Marie! Kidding!

The thread might stay open but the account gets closed instead ;)


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Well I was about to get all pompous and go on at length about how the T-word is the one the SF drag community uses for their revues, pageants, etc.
Buuuut I did some homework first and it turns out that even Heklina herself changed the name of T---yshack.
Three years ago.
Sooo... yeah.


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I think we found the one person NH must give way to...Sara Marie :)

Also, that is the best thing I have seen all day Lisa...you cook the (Polish) food of the gods and dispense hilarious off color wisdom, is there anything you can't do?

Lisamarlene for President 2020...

No seriously, gods help us all, we sorta really NEED you to win!


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And make my poor mother have to take Secret Service with her every time she goes to ride her horses?

Unless I can get her an agent who rides AND who looks like Sam Elliot, there's no way. A seventy-year-old widow needs her fantasies, and I will not begrudge her.

You'll have to find someone else.


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Crap...we're screwed... ;) Though, bonus points for respecting your Mama!

Wondering if we can get Tacticslion...


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I'd vote for him!


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Hey, Nobody!
The children are already negotiating which movies they intend to watch at your house on Saturday.
Out of curiosity, which Studio Ghibli films do you currently have in the Cabinet of DVDoom?


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lisamarlene wrote:

Hey, Nobody!

The children are already negotiating which movies they intend to watch at your house on Saturday.
Out of curiosity, which Studio Ghibli films do you currently have in the Cabinet of DVDoom?

LOL. Which DON'T I have?

Let's see... (not all guaranteed to be Studio Ghibli):
  • Porco Rosso
  • Spirited Away
  • My Neighbor Totoro
  • The Cat Returns
  • Nausica (OMG OMG OMG!!! THE definition of Charisma)
  • Castle in the Sky
  • Kiki's Delivery Service

  • I'm pretty sure we don't have Howl's Moving Castle or anything thereafter -- we felt that once Miyazaki was gone, Studio Ghibli went way downhill. Similarly, I don't *think* we have Princess Mononoke, but I've have to check. I know we don't have Ponyo, the Secret World of Arrietty, The Wind Rises, etc.

    And honestly, I've turned into an Amazon <expletive>. If you want to watch it and we don't have it and it's Studio Ghibli, I'll just buy it on Amazon. It's worth it because I'm sure I'll watch it later.

    EDIT: And seriously. Now that I'm looking at the Studio Ghibli list, my feeling is that we should just buy one of the more recent ones. The kids can watch it on Saturday, and the rest of us can watch it later.


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    Cool! They were asking for Kiki!


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    Speaking of Saturday, kids, and entertainment:

  • Is there any food we should provide beyond soda, beer, and hot cheese?
  • Have you considered letting the kids play something like Little Big Planet? It's a video game, but it's more of a, "Look around and solve puzzles" game than a shoot-'em-up or platformer. The advantage is that you can really control their time easily: "Ok, it's been 90 minutes. At the end of this level you're done." The disadvantage is that we'd likely lose the Impii to joining them.

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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Speaking of Saturday, kids, and entertainment:

  • Is there any food we should provide beyond soda, beer, and hot cheese?
  • Have you considered letting the kids play something like Little Big Planet? It's a video game, but it's more of a, "Look around and solve puzzles" game than a shoot-'em-up or platformer. The advantage is that you can really control their time easily: "Ok, it's been 90 minutes. At the end of this level you're done." The disadvantage is that we'd likely lose the Impii to joining them.

  • I am bringing a big pan of shepherds pie (beef, though, not lamb, because the lamb was too expensive), roasted Brussels sprouts, and the good bar nuts (fresh rosemary, butter, a little brown sugar and cayenne). I'm planning on bringing everything cold and throwing it into your oven when I get there because it's easier that way.


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    Reviews the meal and movie plans.

    I WISH we lived close enough to join your group!

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    lisamarlene wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Speaking of Saturday, kids, and entertainment:

  • Is there any food we should provide beyond soda, beer, and hot cheese?
  • Have you considered letting the kids play something like Little Big Planet? It's a video game, but it's more of a, "Look around and solve puzzles" game than a shoot-'em-up or platformer. The advantage is that you can really control their time easily: "Ok, it's been 90 minutes. At the end of this level you're done." The disadvantage is that we'd likely lose the Impii to joining them.

  • I am bringing a big pan of shepherds pie (beef, though, not lamb, because the lamb was too expensive), roasted Brussels sprouts, and the good bar nuts (fresh rosemary, butter, a little brown sugar and cayenne). I'm planning on bringing everything cold and throwing it into your oven when I get there because it's easier that way.

    It's cottage pie if you make it with beef instead of lamb is it not?


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    That sounds correct to me Taliesan (that would be my English half's instincts kicking in I think)...final word however...Lisamarlene...englighten us lady of the culinary prowess, what do thou believe to be true about the pies of beef and lamb?

    I could just google it, but that would be less fun :)


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    I believe what Taliesan wrote is probably true.
    Shepherd, not cowherd or goatherd.
    If you tried to make it with goat, you'd end up a very lonely goatherd.

    But I like calling it Shepherd's Pie because every time I do, I hear Len Cariou and Angela Lansbury sinning "A Little Priest" in my head.


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    Goat has other much better culinary uses IMHO anyway, some involving various curry.


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    Hey NH, timely question, what sort if any winter type activities do you and the clan do? Planning on some winter camping, snowshoeing, and maybe some ice climbing myself.


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    GM_Beernorg wrote:
    Hey NH, timely question, what sort if any winter type activities do you and the clan do? Planning on some winter camping, snowshoeing, and maybe some ice climbing myself.

    Considering we have to drive 2-3 hours to get snow, and even then California's near-permanent drought makes it iffy, the answer is, "Very few."

    From when I was 2-32 or so, my (blood) family and I would go up to the Sierras, stay at Kay's Silver Lake resort on Highway 88, and do "real" cross-country skiing for 8-14 days. ("Real" meaning no groomed trails: Just look at a Topo map, decide on an interesting destination, figure out how to get there, and go, frequently returning after dark.)
    NobodysWife did not approve of the "rustic" cabins (exploding refrigerators, no amenities whatsoever other than basic gas and electricity, nothing to do if you didn't ski, etc.), so we started going on more "upscale" trips to South Lake Tahoe or other places where you could actually do something without being an avid outdoorsperson.

    So in the past:

  • Expert off-trail wildnerness cross-country skier
  • Intermediate-to-advanced downhill skier
  • Low-range resort loafing; we'd usually rent out a place for 12, split the costs, and all wander off and do our own things
  • Once the rest of my family moved to Seattle, we tried to trade off the cross-country ski trips (one year in California, one in Washington) and stay in nicer places, but a rip-off in California (essentially stole our $5000 security deposit and dared us to sue) meant the Seattle group stopped coming down, so now the kids and I go up once every other year. NobodysWife's abandoned the whole thing. Can't blame her, as sister-in-law treats her like dirt, and no one else in the family will stand up for her.

    I'm hoping to take the family up this January or February, but that will require more snow.


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    Can't convince Wife of Beernorg to go with me on my nature outings, she really likes her creature comforts. We have plenty o' the white here, happy to lend some, would you also like sub zero temps, they are free with the rental of WNY snow :)


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    (essentially stole our $5000 security deposit and dared us to sue)

    Did you?


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    Drejk wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:
    (essentially stole our $5000 security deposit and dared us to sue)
    Did you?

    So, extremely long and nauseating story distilled to its essence:

  • Our "group organizer" lives in Seattle, and she was pregnant with her second daughter when this fiasco started. So everything was in her name, so she was the one with the legal standing to sue. So right off the bat, she would have been flying to and from California while 8+ months pregnant to deal with a recalcitrant landlord. I told her to file the case and I'd drive to the courthouse, but she didn't take me up on it. I suspect she had to personally be there some portion of the time.
  • We, of course, took no "before" photos of the floor, so in spite of the fact that:
    - The property manager just happened to be the wife of the guy who was contracted to do all the repairs on the house,
    - The guy's quote was 50% higher than all similar work I researched while trying to do the legwork for our organizer,
    - We knew darned well we couldn't possibly have done the damage,
    it was, all in all, a "He said/she said" case where the judge would have photographic evidence of a damaged floor. The repair costs were ludicrous compared to similar places, but with physical proof of damage and us having no proof we didn't cause it, our chances of victory were low.
  • Our organizer, being busy having a child, decided to just drop the case and never rent in California again.

  • So basically yet another case of the "Bad Guy" getting away with it because winning against them is just so overwhelmingly difficult.


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    Bleck! That is all I can say about that NH...

    Maybe an exasperated rude gesture too...for the Bad Guy....


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    Hey, Nobody!

    a) So I bought a used tent on Craigslist, we're supposed to leave for our trip in 13 days, and it would probably be a good idea to do a test set-up before then just to make sure no parts are missing or broken.
    But there is no place at our house big enough to set up a 12x7 tent without big dumb collies getting in the way (or collie bombs underneath).
    Can I bring it to your place and put it in the back yard for the kids to ignore while we game?

    b) Is there anything I can bring today?


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    lisamarlene wrote:

    Hey, Nobody!

    a) So I bought a used tent on Craigslist, we're supposed to leave for our trip in 13 days, and it would probably be a good idea to do a test set-up before then just to make sure no parts are missing or broken.
    But there is no place at our house big enough to set up a 12x7 tent without big dumb collies getting in the way (or collie bombs underneath).
    Can I bring it to your place and put it in the back yard for the kids to ignore while we game?

    b) Is there anything I can bring today?

    a) Absolutely. But why didn't you want OUR leaky, broken, water-leaks-through-it-like-a-sieve tent? I'm hurt! Camping is all about how miserable you can make your kids!

    The ONE warning is that in spite of the warm weather, the ground is a bit damp. You'll want to clean the tent thoroughly when you re-pack it.

    b) I've got the lamb curry already made, naan, pounds of rice, chutney, peanuts, raisins, and enough salad fixins to feed a cow. Quite literally. You KNOW Shiro and NobodysWife won't be content unless they run off and buy "snacks". So I'd say you might want to bring some food for your kids, just in case they don't care for the curry, but otherwise we'll have our usual overload-o-stuff. Let me put it this way: The curry overflowed my usual pot (that fed the entire dojo) and I had to switch to our turkey soup pot.


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    lisamarlene wrote:

    Hey, Nobody!

    a) So I bought a used tent on Craigslist, we're supposed to leave for our trip in 13 days, and it would probably be a good idea to do a test set-up before then just to make sure no parts are missing or broken.
    But there is no place at our house big enough to set up a 12x7 tent without big dumb collies getting in the way (or collie bombs underneath).
    Can I bring it to your place and put it in the back yard for the kids to ignore while we game?

    b) Is there anything I can bring today?

    a) Absolutely. But why didn't you want OUR leaky, broken, water-leaks-through-it-like-a-sieve tent? I'm hurt! Camping is all about how miserable you can make your kids!

    The ONE warning is that in spite of the warm weather, the ground is a bit damp. You'll want to clean the tent thoroughly when you re-pack it.

    b) I've got the lamb curry already made, naan, pounds of rice, chutney, peanuts, raisins, and enough salad fixins to feed a cow. Quite literally. You KNOW Shiro and NobodysWife won't be content unless they run off and buy "snacks". So I'd say you might want to bring some food for your kids, just in case they don't care for the curry, but otherwise we'll have our usual overload-o-stuff. Let me put it this way: The curry overflowed my usual pot (that fed the entire dojo) and I had to switch to our turkey soup pot.

    Noted. I'll bring food and juice boxes for the kids.


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    In the car in-between ballet and the dojo, I explained the situation to the kids to ask them what I should pick up.
    Teensy Valeros said, "Oh, I will eat Uncle Nobody's curry. And when he asks me how I like it I will tell him, 'This is delicious!' And he will say, 'Why thank you, Valeros'. And I will say 'You're welcome, Uncle Nobody'. And that will make his day."


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    lisamarlene wrote:

    In the car in-between ballet and the dojo, I explained the situation to the kids to ask them what I should pick up.

    Teensy Valeros said, "Oh, I will eat Uncle Nobody's curry. And when he asks me how I like it I will tell him, 'This is delicious!' And he will say, 'Why thank you, Valeros'. And I will say 'You're welcome, Uncle Nobody'. And that will make his day."

    The young man has learned wisdom in his few years...


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    Name of GMNPC: Kronk
    Race/Class/Level: Human Barbarian 2
    Location: The entrance to the necromancer's cave
    Catalyst: The party not knowing when to rest, and amazingly bad dice

    The Gory Details:
    Two children had been kidnapped from town, and every indication was that the crime had been perpetrated by a necromancer. The party, in hot pursuit, proceeded to fail every Perception check for traps left on the road to slow them down, and fail every Reflex save to avoid falling into those traps. Their freshly-purchased wand of Cure Light Wounds was already more than half-spent by the time they finally got to the necromancer's cave, but not before the rogue and Kronk fell in yet another covered pit to take a lot more damage, then Kronk got paralyzed by ghouls so the inquisitor had to use her one scroll of Remove Paralysis. Both Kronk and the inquisitor had Ghoul Fever and knew it. It was just THAT bad of a trip. However, there were kids in that cave, and so the party decided to "tough it out" and move on.

    The rogue used her one potion of Hide from Undead to scout ahead and spotted the undead milling about in the front entrance: Two skeletons, half a dozen zombies, and two zombie dogs. With no channelers in the group, nor anyone with any area-effect damage spells, she handed Alchemist's Fire to every party member and instructed them to hit zombies in such a way as to maximize splash damage. Then came the realization that alchemist's fire has only a 10' range increment, and only the sorcerer and the rogue had dexterities of over 12. Hitting with the fire would actually be a problem.

    The rest of the fight was an amazing demonstration of just how badly poor die rolling can destroy low-level PCs. (As if all the traps hadn't already demonstrated that.)

    During the surprise round the party raced forward into throwing range... and all of them ended up with initiatives lower than the zombies! It wasn't that the zombies rolled well, either; every party member rolled in the single digits. A zombie moved into the rogue's square and she failed her Acrobatics roll to avoid him, so he bumped into her and poof!, her Hide from Undead was gone, with her in the middle of the room!

    So, let's see... the zombies, at +4 to hit, were routinely hitting armor classes of 17 and 18 at about a 75% hit rate (it should have been below 40%). A zombie dog hit and tripped Kronk, dropping his armor class to 11 (rage + prone) and making every hit on him a sure thing. While raging and needing only an 8 to hit (and one-shot) a threatening zombie so he could stand up and take only one AoO Kronk rolled two 6's in a row. The rogue, inquisitor, and sorcerer were similarly hampered by rolling nothing but single-digit numbers. I think the combat was summed up when the sorcerer tossed an alchemist's fire at a zombie, needing to roll a whopping 7 to hit, and getting a 3.

    Since no one could hit and we couldn't heal as fast as the zombies were hitting Kronk, he eventually had to try to stand up, and the attacks of opportunity knocked him unconscious. The next round, the zombies pounded him into meat.

    The rest of the party was forced to withdraw and flee. When the zombies didn't pursue, they realized they had a chance of retrieving Kronk's body, and the inquisitor snuck up and made off with him. (For once the zombies rolled a 2, but it was on a Perception roll, not a To Hit roll.)
    The party loaded him onto Burny, the pony (yes, even our animals didn't escape unscathed), and fled, tail between their legs, back to town for reinforcements and better equipment.

    I tell you what, ow!


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    lisamarlene wrote:

    RAID?!?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    (cough, cough, gag)

    This is an accurate representation of me in real life when within 100’ of:

    - bug spray
    - cigarette or cigar smoke
    - too many alcoholic containers opened at the same time
    - other extremely “strong” smells (like fresh tarmac)

    ... I may, in fact, be a wuss.

    Also, NH, in the time FaWtL has wracked up 2,150 posts, yours has wracked up fifty. Nice.


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    Tacticslion wrote:
    lisamarlene wrote:

    RAID?!?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    (cough, cough, gag)

    This is an accurate representation of me in real life when within 100’ of:

    - bug spray
    - cigarette or cigar smoke
    - too many alcoholic containers opened at the same time
    - other extremely “strong” smells (like fresh tarmac)

    ... I may, in fact, be a wuss.

    Also, NH, in the time FaWtL has wracked up 2,150 posts, yours has wracked up fifty. Nice.

    I'm a quiet guy. :-P

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    And I sprout silver wings in the moonlight...


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    OK, this is rather embarrassing: Did anyone who reads this thread have The Baleful Coven on their wish list, only to have the PDF mysteriously appear in their inbox?

    I did a huge purge of people's wish lists back in December, and I just got shipping notification that a hard copy of The Baleful Coven is getting sent to me.

    Since I didn't order it, it's got to be a FaWtLer's.

    Anyone remember wanting it?


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    Anything?


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    Sharoth wrote:
    Anything?

    It says, "ASK NobodysHome Anything", not, "NobodysHome will ANSWER Anything"...


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    Have you experienced these problems with your Instant-Pot?


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    OK, this is rather embarrassing: Did anyone who reads this thread have The Baleful Coven on their wish list, only to have the PDF mysteriously appear in their inbox?

    I did a huge purge of people's wish lists back in December, and I just got shipping notification that a hard copy of The Baleful Coven is getting sent to me.

    Since I didn't order it, it's got to be a FaWtLer's.

    Anyone remember wanting it?

    Not I, at least not to my knowledge. Aiymi and I share a single Amazon Wish List, but since you don't have that information (to my knowledge - you're a crafty guy and might be able to figure it out) I highly doubt it came from us.


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    lisamarlene wrote:
    Have you experienced these problems with your Instant-Pot?

    OK. I love you for that! Now I have to share it with everybody!

    I only WISH my Instant Pot made the sound of distant screams when I opened it.

    NobodysHome's family: Wishing their Instant Pot really did invoke the powers of Baphomet...


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    Vanykrye wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    OK, this is rather embarrassing: Did anyone who reads this thread have The Baleful Coven on their wish list, only to have the PDF mysteriously appear in their inbox?

    I did a huge purge of people's wish lists back in December, and I just got shipping notification that a hard copy of The Baleful Coven is getting sent to me.

    Since I didn't order it, it's got to be a FaWtLer's.

    Anyone remember wanting it?

    Not I, at least not to my knowledge. Aiymi and I share a single Amazon Wish List, but since you don't have that information (to my knowledge - you're a crafty guy and might be able to figure it out) I highly doubt it came from us.

    In the back of my head, I *think* it was for TacticsLion, but I know he pops up here frequently, so I was hoping he could confirm.

    NEXT Christmas I'll actually ASK people whether they want anything before sending it. What a concept! :-O


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    lisamarlene wrote:
    Have you experienced these problems with your Instant-Pot?

    OK. I love you for that! Now I have to share it with everybody!

    I only WISH my Instant Pot made the sound of distant screams when I opened it.

    NobodysHome's family: Wishing their Instant Pot really did invoke the powers of Baphomet...

    I smell trickery... It says it invokes power of Baphomet, and yet, it was designed by... necromancers? Some devilry demonry is taking place there!


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    Vanykrye wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    OK, this is rather embarrassing: Did anyone who reads this thread have The Baleful Coven on their wish list, only to have the PDF mysteriously appear in their inbox?

    I did a huge purge of people's wish lists back in December, and I just got shipping notification that a hard copy of The Baleful Coven is getting sent to me.

    Since I didn't order it, it's got to be a FaWtLer's.

    Anyone remember wanting it?

    Not I, at least not to my knowledge. Aiymi and I share a single Amazon Wish List, but since you don't have that information (to my knowledge - you're a crafty guy and might be able to figure it out) I highly doubt it came from us.

    In the back of my head, I *think* it was for TacticsLion, but I know he pops up here frequently, so I was hoping he could confirm.

    NEXT Christmas I'll actually ASK people whether they want anything before sending it. What a concept! :-O

    Nah. If they wouldn't want it they wouldn't put it into their wishlist, right?

    *unless they forgot to remove things from the list they wanted but they already got earlier...*


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    Hey, Nobody!

    The kids and I will be coming home from SoCal on Monday afternoon.
    Whingey Wizzard is in the classroom by 9 Monday morning, so allegedly six hours home, add a random extra hour because kids, puts us back in the Bay around 4-ish, but could be later if needed.

    Would this work as the evening to swing by to do the level-up you had talked about? And, if so, what is my time window (no earlier/later than)? Because Tuesday the kids will expect "Kids eat free" night at Ikea, Wednesday is quasi-booked but not definite, and Thursday I have a committee meeting.

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