Becoming a Deity?


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How does one transition from mortal to godhood in Golarion?

Iomedae did it, right?

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They take the test of the Starstone don't they? If found worthy your resume is forward to the minor deity department for consideration in 4-6 weeks.

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Some I believe have accomplished something impossible or something no one has ever done before. Irori achieved perfection, Urgothoa became the first undead and Nethys was able to see everything at once. And all of them became gods for doing those things.


Become mythic enough and you can start down the path to Godhood, although reaching a full-blown 5-domains-and-6-dubdomains deity is beyond the scope of the rules.


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more than Iomedae did it, there's Nethys, Irori, Cayden Cailean, and Norgorber did so as well

Nethys did using mythic tier (at least) levels of magic

Irori became a god through enlightenment

While Norgorber and Cayden Cailean used the Test of the Starstone just like Iomedae


Getting a recommendation from another diety always helps. Worked for Kurgess and Milani. Though ultimately coming to embody a precept, basically becoming a paragon of such is the major way. Naderi witnessed many tragic romances and had gained divinity upon watching 2 of them kill themselves, rather than be apart; Zyphus felt true rage at the tragedy of his death, decrying how unfair it was, vowing to fill the world with tragic deaths to usurp Pharasma as God of Death.

It's all simple stuff in the end, one moment built up to by your entire life that makes you greater than anything you ever were before.


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DSQueen wrote:
Getting a recommendation from another diety always helps. Worked for Kurgess and Milani. Though ultimately coming to embody a precept, basically becoming a paragon of such is the major way. Naderi witnessed many tragic romances and had gained divinity upon watching 2 of them kill themselves, rather than be apart; Zyphus felt true rage at the tragedy of his death, decrying how unfair it was, vowing to fill the world with tragic deaths to usurp Pharasma as God of Death.

Naderi was no mortal, but an Empyrial lord in the service of Shelyn, tasked with proctecting forbidden romance. When one of her charges choose suicide before separation, it triggered her ascension into a true deity.


DSQueen wrote:

Getting a recommendation from another diety always helps. Worked for Kurgess and Milani. Though ultimately coming to embody a precept, basically becoming a paragon of such is the major way. Naderi witnessed many tragic romances and had gained divinity upon watching 2 of them kill themselves, rather than be apart; Zyphus felt true rage at the tragedy of his death, decrying how unfair it was, vowing to fill the world with tragic deaths to usurp Pharasma as God of Death.

It's all simple stuff in the end, one moment built up to by your entire life that makes you greater than anything you ever were before.

Urgathoa also was a mortal before she became a deity


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Ten easy steps.

1) Go to the Mana Wastes.

2) Find a Mana Well. (Diviniation magic helps.)

3) Enter the Well and claim its power. Yes, it's that simple.

4) You are now Mythic. Do trials.

5) Take Divine Source at third tier. You are now a quasi-god.

6) Take Divine Source at sixth tier.

7) Take Divine Source at ninth tier.

8) Do enough stuff to push yourself over the line to CR 26. You are now a demigod.

9) Do enough stuff to push yourself above CR 30.

10) You are now a god.

Note: Steps nine and ten will require GM approval.

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Of the core deities, Irori, Nethys and Urgathoa (and Aroden) bootstrapped themselves to divinity, Cayden Cailean, Iomedae and Norgorber passed the Test of the Starstone, Shelyn and Zon-Kuthon where born to divine parents, Lamashtu *may* have worked her way up from Demon Lord (and, before that, perhaps even a lower form of demon) and presumably other devils, daemons, archons, angels, etc. could follow this path. Stealing power from another god, such as through Lamashtu killing Curchanos to usurp his mastery over beasts, also seems to be a potential route to jumping tiers.

Sponsorship of other gods, such as Aroden sponsoring Arazni and Iomedae, or those mentioned above (Kurgess, Milani, Naderi) is also a potential path.

I really like how there isn't just one way to go, in Golarion, and that so many of the pre-existing gods have followed very different paths to apotheosis.


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Note that a mortal trying to rob an existing deity of their power is a bad plan, because Achaekek will come after you and he will quite probably kill you. XD As a demigod-level thing, he does have stats the GM can use, and they are NASTY.

There's also a module dealing with certain divine stuff that could be adapted to grant divinity - in fact, I'm using that myself as part of my main game series (which is about deities trying to regain their divinity after it was taken from them).


Blackvial wrote:
DSQueen wrote:

Getting a recommendation from another diety always helps. Worked for Kurgess and Milani. Though ultimately coming to embody a precept, basically becoming a paragon of such is the major way. Naderi witnessed many tragic romances and had gained divinity upon watching 2 of them kill themselves, rather than be apart; Zyphus felt true rage at the tragedy of his death, decrying how unfair it was, vowing to fill the world with tragic deaths to usurp Pharasma as God of Death.

It's all simple stuff in the end, one moment built up to by your entire life that makes you greater than anything you ever were before.

Urgathoa also was a mortal before she became a deity
sylvansteel wrote:
Naderi was no mortal, but an Empyrial lord in the service of Shelyn, tasked with proctecting forbidden romance. When one of her charges choose suicide before separation, it triggered her ascension into a true deity.

Both perfectly good examples of what I meant by precepts, or rather ideals as the case may be.

Also a good indication that I should space separate ideals... and also pay attention to what I'm actually say.


Urgathoa was mortal, albeit a very ancient mortal, who fled the boneyard and became the first undead.


GM Rednal wrote:

Note that a mortal trying to rob an existing deity of their power is a bad plan, because Achaekek will come after you and he will quite probably kill you. XD As a demigod-level thing, he does have stats the GM can use, and they are NASTY.

There's also a module dealing with certain divine stuff that could be adapted to grant divinity - in fact, I'm using that myself as part of my main game series (which is about deities trying to regain their divinity after it was taken from them).

Which module do you speak of?


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Become a DM.


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You'd want to get Beyond The Vault Of Souls.


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Alistair UnderRoad wrote:
They take the test of the Starstone don't they? If found worthy your resume is forward to the minor deity department for consideration in 4-6 weeks.

Not always. Irori who did it without the stone, tends to refer to that method as cheating. Nethys also ascended without the stone. Only three mortals have succesfully ascended with the stone.

You're looking for a rules answer to describe an evolution to a creature where rules don't apply.

The true answer in all cases is that it happened because the authors decided it did. In the bulk of the cases, they never bothered with the how or the why.


GM Rednal wrote:

Note that a mortal trying to rob an existing deity of their power is a bad plan, because Achaekek will come after you and he will quite probably kill you. XD As a demigod-level thing, he does have stats the GM can use, and they are NASTY.

There's also a module dealing with certain divine stuff that could be adapted to grant divinity - in fact, I'm using that myself as part of my main game series (which is about deities trying to regain their divinity after it was taken from them).

If I had at least 6 levels of mythic (preferably 9) and was powerful enough to rob an existing Deity of their power...I would flat out murder Achaekek along with that deity...

A power gamer abusing mythic...obviously Achaekek wouldn't even know what hit it.

That's why it's best to be atheist in Golarion...sure you can respect the power...but when your check/power comes in and they come expecting you to come calling...you don't show no respect...


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Alleran wrote:

Ten easy steps.

2) Find a Mana Well. (Diviniation magic helps.)

3) Enter the Well and claim its power. Yes, it's that simple.

4) You are now Mythic. Do trials.

8) Do enough stuff to push yourself over the line to CR 26. You are now a demigod.

9) Do enough stuff to push yourself above CR 30.

10) You are now a god.

Note: Steps nine and ten will require GM approval.

Well, to be more technical, steps 2 to 4 and 8 also require GM approval =P

Finding an active mana well in the first place (mana wells can go dormant), dealing with whatever the GM wrote up for the mana well (which can include things the well's already made mythic), not getting screwed by the well's eldritch surge when you dunk yourself (which can include the well turns you into a mana wastes mutant and can't have any further effect on you), completing trials (which are entirely at GM discretion), and then finding ways to raise your CR that don't take you out of play entirely.

Ideally, your GM is on it if your goal for your PC is "I want to become a god."

You're not going to have much luck at all if its something you're trying to cram it down the GM's throat =P


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*Snickers*

No amount of mythic tiers turns you into a demigod - it just gives the possibility of being something that can be worshiped and grant domains. That's not the same thing. And if you're not a demigod (or in possession of a weapon specifically designed to hurt it, since those do apparently exist), you're pretty much screwed against Achaekek. Among other things, it doesn't even take lethal damage from anything less powerful, and it straight-up insta-heals from death effects and whatnot.


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In the transition from 3.5 to Pathfinder Achaekek has become a full deity.


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GM Rednal wrote:
You'd want to get Beyond The Vault Of Souls.

Much thanks!

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