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King Mogaru is CN, and he's Pathfinder's Godzilla.
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I'd say CN too. Sometimes he destroys. Sometimes he saves. Sometimes he starts fights, sometimes he's pretty chill until provoked.
Godzilla does what Godzilla feels like doing.
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Godzilla does what Godzilla feels like doing.
Honestly, Godzilla often feels rather dutiful, protecting Earth from the humans and the other monsters. Definitely seems to have a code that is followed, even if it totally disregards the rules everyone else uses.
I'd peg him (or her?) as Lawful Neutral, or even Lawful Good, though I don't really think Godzilla thinks of humans as anything more than ants...
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That sounds more like Mothra's deal to me.
Godzilla just protects his territory from invaders. That his territory happens to be "the planet" just happens to work out in the favor of us puny ants a lot of the time.
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I would not want to emprically test this with different protection from X spells.
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Godzilla does what Godzilla feels like doing.
Honestly, Godzilla often feels rather dutiful, protecting Earth from the humans and the other monsters. Definitely seems to have a code that is followed, even if it totally disregards the rules everyone else uses.
I'd peg him (or her?) as Lawful Neutral, or even Lawful Good, though I don't really think Godzilla thinks of humans as anything more than ants...
Depends on which era you are looking at.
Plenty of times, he was the villain of the movie.
so it is easier to write it off as chaotic when you have numerous conflicting depictions like that.
Now Gamera? That mofo? He is literally the "Friend to all Children". He is the namer of the trope. He is the one you want to look at when you want a dutiful scaly knight consistently. He is the kaijuu with explicitly levels in paladin.
Gamera is the one that shows up when some dumb kid is falling off of something, or some monster is trying to eat the brat. He shoves his arm into force shields to let kids escape.
N. There is no why. He simply is.
I'd peg him (or her?) as Lawful Neutral, or even Lawful Good, though I don't really think Godzilla thinks of humans as anything more than ants...Godzilla does what Godzilla feels like doing.
Wow, the definition of "good" has fallen very far ...
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Wow, the definition of "good" has fallen very far ...
In the films, godzilla typically doesn't hit the monsters when they are down, doesn't use cheap tricks, and conserves the AoE attacks (breath weapon) until absolutely needed. Godzilla doesn't even try to kill the other monsters unless forced into it.
Although I don't think Godzilla views humans any higher than ants or vegetation, I do think Godzilla tries to minimize its impact on non-enemies.
Typically, Godzilla only fights in self-defense or when the greater need of the planet requires his/her presence.
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Godzilla literally defends her territory and that's it. Even in the 1998 movie. The entire point of the series is the fallout from modern hubris from a force of nature - Godzilla.
Godzilla fights good guys and bad guys and has friends and foes, but it all comes back to basic instincts and being a force of nature. A hurricane isn't CN, and neither should Godzilla.
A hurricane isn't neutral either, it lacks an alignment entirely because alignments require intentions and motives.
Maybe equal to a weather effect in the first film (1954), but in all later movies, Godzilla shows signs of intelligence enough to have an alignment.
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CN.
I would never consider godzilla an animal, there are many , many movies , but i do believe he shows intelligence plenty of times over his long , long saga.
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I'm don't know about Godzilla, but I'm pretty sure Megalon is Awful Weevil.
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I am not the greatest Godzilla buff, but I always pegged him as N. It´s not that he is a mindless animal, but he does not have an ideological or moral agenda that would push him to any of the other alignments.
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I'm pretty sure he talks in one of the movies....
His son may be the one that we're getting mixed up with, as the original was very CN.
His son is more CG (Godzilla 2000).
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I'm don't know about Godzilla, but I'm pretty sure Megalon is Awful Weevil.
Ah but the real question is which one is the lesser of two weevils.
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Godzilla appears only to fight other Kaiju. He has no moral obligation to fight them - he's not doing it to protect anyone, and he has no regard for the destruction he causes during his fights. Death tolls hold no sway over him. Therefor, we can conclude he doesn't register on either Good or Evil.
Godzilla simply fights because he does. He doesn't fight Kaiju to maintain a set of ethics, or even to spurn the ethics of others. Godzilla holds no grudges over his opponents or the armies of man that feebly try to ward him off with delicious radiation. Therefor, we can conclude he doesn't register on either Lawful or Chaotic.
Godzilla emerges when a Kaiju emerges. When there are no more Kaiju to fight, he submerges. Wind is a result of an imbalance of air pressure - high pressure toward low pressure. Like the wind itself, Godzilla is a force of nature, his presence merely the result of an imbalance. An intelligent force of nature, but all the same. Godzilla isn't swayed by morals OR ethics, and is therefor True Neutral.
We really gotta narrow down which version we are talking about.
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It really depends on what era of movies you're looking at.
Godzilla's usually either neutral (pretty ambivalent until challenged in some way) or chaotic neutral (actively seeking other kaiju to fight for various reasons, with little concern for collateral damage.)
Though in the 80s series, Godzilla actually spent a few movies as chaotic evil - Godzilla was actually seeking the destruction of humanity out of pure hatred, and didn't knock that off until defeated and purified by Mothra.
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Canonically I think we're on the fourth Godzilla including the 2014 remake.
The first is probably N or CE, tarresque style.
His son, originally baby Godzilla, is the CN or CG one. Probably not CG.
The Matthew Broddarick (spelling?) Godzilla started as CN, but she was also a mother protecting her young. The cartoon sequel had the one baby become CG.
The 90's cartoon was NG or LG.
In 2014, he's the voice of nature itself, restoring balance of power. N
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Canonically, the Matthew Brodderick Godzilla is simply "Zilla" - a completely separate monster.
Which the 2000s Godzilla has killed at least once.
Toho did not like that version of Godzilla.
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Canonically, the Matthew Brodderick Godzilla is simply "Zilla" - a completely separate monster.
Which the 2000s Godzilla has killed at least once.
Toho did not like that version of Godzilla.
Which is why Toho specifically bought the rights to it so Godzilla could curbstomp it.
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N.
Godzilla is more a waddling Force of Nature, then a creature.
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Amoral/Alien. Has motivations that cannot be expressed in human terms. (Attempts to do so are flawed rationalizations that make his alignment appear inconsistent.)
Not a Pathfinder alignment? Godzilla does not care for your puny nine-box grid!
I lean toward Neutral. I see Godzilla (nearly ALL versions) as the force of nature. He comes... he destroys... he leaves. people are inconsequential to him... Everything is pretty inconsequential.
He is the biggest, baddest thing around. unless something else shows up to threaten him. Then he fights not to protect, but to maintain his top of the food chain position. He simply... is.
It's really why despite any glimmers of intelligence, I still think of him as animal intelligence. He fights for dominance and to repel predators or because he's territorial... but animals do that all the time.
If he's fighting to save the earth... its' because it's HIS earth and to save the little ants that keep shooting missiles at him.
I'm pretty sure he talks in one of the movies....
which film?
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I vaguely recall from the original run a scene on Monster Island where Godzilla and Anguiras roar at each other and its subtitled.
Godzilla v. Gigan, I think?
I think they could sense Gigan and decided to leave Monster Island to investigate or something.
But the original Godzilla run is just goofy once we're in the Monster Island stretch.
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Godzilla vs Gigan, apparently.
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Thank you both for the reference. looking it up you are correct. I really wish it wasn't so, but the Big G has taken an almighty smash in my eyes.... going off to reconstitute reality, but not in a good way :(
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Thank you both for the reference. looking it up you are correct. I really wish it wasn't so, but the Big G has taken an almighty smash in my eyes.... going off to reconstitute reality, but not in a good way :(
The 2014 one was good, and Bryan Cranston is the best actor ever.....
Regardless of the fact that he was one "Additional Voices" on Power Rangers.
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Well, the original run of Godzilla movies got silly towards the end.
The late 80s reboot was meant to be a return to the earlier movies, where Godzilla's a force of destruction. This was the sort of thing that happened in the second series.
Thank you both for the reference. looking it up you are correct. I really wish it wasn't so, but the Big G has taken an almighty smash in my eyes.... going off to reconstitute reality, but not in a good way :(
Godzilla has taken MANY smashes in the past. It's one of the reasons I roll my eyes at people taking such offense at the American remakes as not being 'as good' as the originals... There have been over 30 movies made and MOST have been little better then WWF in rubber costumes. There were a few deeper gems in there... but yeah, Godzilla has not set a high bar.
It's goofy awesome fun... and that's about it.
Hmmm... CC... Chaotic Clumsy.
Have you seen the mess he leaves behind when he walks through town?