paizo.com Recent Posts in Marvel's Iron Fistpaizo.com Recent Posts in Marvel's Iron Fist2018-09-19T11:56:10Z2018-09-19T11:56:10ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistGreenDragon1133https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4982018-10-22T06:56:39Z2018-10-22T06:56:39Z<p>Ah, sorry. My bad.</p>Ah, sorry. My bad.GreenDragon11332018-10-22T06:56:39ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4972018-10-21T07:50:03Z2018-10-21T07:50:03Z<p>I know I was being facetious.</p>I know I was being facetious.Vidmaster72018-10-21T07:50:03ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistGreenDragon1133https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4962018-10-21T07:42:11Z2018-10-21T07:42:11Z<p>Remember, Luke uses that phrase instead of swearing.</p>Remember, Luke uses that phrase instead of swearing.GreenDragon11332018-10-21T07:42:11ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4952018-10-20T08:08:52Z2018-10-20T08:08:52Z<p>That is not a sweet Christmas sir not sweet at all.</p>That is not a sweet Christmas sir not sweet at all.Vidmaster72018-10-20T08:08:52ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistGreenDragon1133https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4942018-10-20T07:58:23Z2018-10-20T07:58:23Z<p>Sweet Christmas! Luke Cage has been cancelled as well.</p>Sweet Christmas! Luke Cage has been cancelled as well.GreenDragon11332018-10-20T07:58:23ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistDeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4932018-10-16T11:58:31Z2018-10-16T11:58:00Z<p>The official statement from Marvel did say "the Immortal Iron Fist will live on" so hopefully they have plans for him (and hopefully, and more importantly to me personally, Colleen, Mary, and the Meechums) to at least show up elsewhere.</p>The official statement from Marvel did say "the Immortal Iron Fist will live on" so hopefully they have plans for him (and hopefully, and more importantly to me personally, Colleen, Mary, and the Meechums) to at least show up elsewhere.DeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)2018-10-16T11:58:00ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistGM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4922018-10-16T03:40:26Z2018-10-16T03:40:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Werthead wrote:</div><blockquote><p> <b><a href="http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2018/10/iron-fist-cancelled-by-netflix.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Aha.</a></b></p>
<p>The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.</p>
<p>I would have waited to see what ratings for S2 of THE PUNISHER are like before shutting down IRON FIST, but oh well. Unfortunately the 5-show limit and Disney's refusal to allow new shows to be added (which they can now make and air themselves) means that HEROES FOR HIRE/DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON can't happen formally. They can happen informally, of course, by effectively turning LUKE CAGE into such a show (although LUKE CAGE hasn't been renewed yet either). </blockquote><p>Thanks for the explanation Werthead. Much appreciated. I'm ok with Luke Cage / Iron Fist getting the ax so that other Netflix shows can live on or be created. If I'd have my way I'd keep Daredevil, Defenders, then create three new shows. Defenders could have Luke, Jessica and Danny plus all their merry friends in order to deliver an action-packed show. On their own, these three heroes make for very LONG shows to watch (with long boring periods of silence which leads to me falling asleep and waking up two shows later... grr....)Werthead wrote:Aha.
The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.
I would have waited to see what...GM PDK (alias of Purple Dragon Knight)2018-10-16T03:40:26ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistDeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4912018-10-18T07:51:22Z2018-10-15T12:33:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Werthead wrote:</div><blockquote><p> <b><a href="http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2018/10/iron-fist-cancelled-by-netflix.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Aha.</a></b></p>
<p>The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.</blockquote><p>That f•%•ing sucks because I so very do not care about the Punisher.
<p>(If you like the show, cool. But I feel like Punisher has a more limited potential. I could be wrong.)</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>I would have waited to see what ratings for S2 of THE PUNISHER are like before shutting down IRON FIST, but oh well. Unfortunately the 5-show limit and Disney's refusal to allow new shows to be added (which they can now make and air themselves) means that HEROES FOR HIRE/DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON can't happen formally. They can happen informally, of course, by effectively turning LUKE CAGE into such a show (although LUKE CAGE hasn't been renewed yet either). </blockquote><p>They don't need it to be Luke Cage, they could do it as the Defenders (which Misty and Colleen had an active role in). The Defenders was a rotating roster in the comics, no reason it can't be on Netflix.
<p>I know Defenders 2 isn't actively in the works, but the possibility remains open at least.</p>
<p>I wonder if Netflix stops making a show, does Marvel have the right to repossess the IP and put it on Disney's new channel? </p>
<p>The cancellation is disappointing to say the least. I was very, very meh on Season 1 and ended up really liking season 2. Whereas say, I adored JJ season 1, and finished season 2 largely unhappy with it. As much as I like Jessica Jones as a character, the Iron Fist has far more potential as a series, because JJ they seem to not want to ever let truly grow or develop—their show runners just want to leave her a constant victim and that gets tiring. Which is to say, I liked S1 because she went through a process coping with her trauma and ultimately came out on top, but S2 just had her run in circles. The writers don't know what to do with Jessica unless she's constantly tragic—but the Defenders, flawed a show as it was, showed she could be an interesting character without that. In fact I'd kind of rather see JJ cancelled and have her be a character in the other shows. Though who knows, S3 may be great.</p>
<p>Iron Fist, god help me, in Season 2,showed it know how to bring characters through an arc and make people care about what happened next.</p>Werthead wrote:Aha.
The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.
That f%%~ing sucks because I so very...DeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)2018-10-15T12:33:00ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4902018-10-15T04:10:26Z2018-10-15T04:10:26Z<p>Yeah I think the way to go is just to have one show that alternates characters around like some of the older tv shows used to do where they emphasize a character at a time. Would probably help with pacing.</p>Yeah I think the way to go is just to have one show that alternates characters around like some of the older tv shows used to do where they emphasize a character at a time. Would probably help with pacing.Vidmaster72018-10-15T04:10:26ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron Fistphantom1592https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4892018-10-16T03:36:19Z2018-10-14T21:15:09Z<p>I'm hoping Luke Cage follows suit and they just join up for a new Heroes for Hire series. I always liked that version of Danny, hope he fits in other places now.</p>I'm hoping Luke Cage follows suit and they just join up for a new Heroes for Hire series. I always liked that version of Danny, hope he fits in other places now.phantom15922018-10-14T21:15:09ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistThomas Seitzhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4882018-10-16T03:36:11Z2018-10-14T18:55:02Z<p>All I know is Season 2 of the Punisher had better have more Metallica in the background.</p>All I know is Season 2 of the Punisher had better have more Metallica in the background.Thomas Seitz2018-10-14T18:55:02ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4872018-10-14T10:28:14Z2018-10-14T10:28:14Z<p>So just spit balling but if they made one show called defenders and then just rotated which character it focused on they could just use all of there characters indefinitely?</p>So just spit balling but if they made one show called defenders and then just rotated which character it focused on they could just use all of there characters indefinitely?Vidmaster72018-10-14T10:28:14ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistWertheadhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4862018-10-16T03:35:41Z2018-10-14T10:14:33Z<p><b><a href="http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2018/10/iron-fist-cancelled-by-netflix.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Aha.</a></b></p>
<p>The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.</p>
<p>I would have waited to see what ratings for S2 of THE PUNISHER are like before shutting down IRON FIST, but oh well. Unfortunately the 5-show limit and Disney's refusal to allow new shows to be added (which they can now make and air themselves) means that HEROES FOR HIRE/DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON can't happen formally. They can happen informally, of course, by effectively turning LUKE CAGE into such a show (although LUKE CAGE hasn't been renewed yet either).</p>Aha.
The Netflix/Marvel deal apparently allows for Disney/ABC to continue making up to 5 MCU shows (with occasional DEFENDERS team-ups) for Netflix indefinitely, but when they end they can't be replaced. THE PUNISHER was added to the roster later on, but with the Disney streaming service coming up Disney did not want to extend the contract to 6 shows indefinitely. So, in effect, the decision to carry on with THE PUNISHER killed IRON FIST.
I would have waited to see what ratings for S2 of...Werthead2018-10-14T10:14:33ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistThomas Seitzhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4852018-10-14T02:18:17Z2018-10-14T02:18:17Z<p>I'm not thrilled by this...but we'll see what happens in 2019 and beyond...</p>I'm not thrilled by this...but we'll see what happens in 2019 and beyond...Thomas Seitz2018-10-14T02:18:17ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistWertheadhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4842018-10-14T00:41:39Z2018-10-14T00:41:39Z<p>This may be less of a voluntary move by Netflix and more one forced on them by necessity: the Netflix Marvel shows are commissioned by Disney and made by ABC. With Disney's home-streaming service launching in about one year's time it is highly improbable that Disney will allow a rival streaming service to make shows using its characters any more.</p>
<p>On that basis, we'll get DAREDEVIL Season 3, PUNISHER Season 2 and JESSICA JONES Season 3, as they've all finished filming. They clearly weren't going to fit in both LUKE CAGE and IRON FIST Season 3 before the hammer comes down at the end of next year, so I wouldn't be surprised if we either got confirmation of a LUKE CAGE Season 3 or news that's being cancelled as well and we get either a DEFENDERS Season 2 or a one-off HEROES FOR HIRE or DAUGHTERS OF THE DRAGON show to round things off next summer.</p>This may be less of a voluntary move by Netflix and more one forced on them by necessity: the Netflix Marvel shows are commissioned by Disney and made by ABC. With Disney's home-streaming service launching in about one year's time it is highly improbable that Disney will allow a rival streaming service to make shows using its characters any more.
On that basis, we'll get DAREDEVIL Season 3, PUNISHER Season 2 and JESSICA JONES Season 3, as they've all finished filming. They clearly weren't...Werthead2018-10-14T00:41:39ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistPanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4832018-10-13T21:01:40Z2018-10-13T21:01:40Z<p>Im hoping this isnt the beginning of the end. I was stoked for luke cage s2 and was disappointed. Couldnt even finish IF s1. seems its been awhile since they hit a home run. Maybe DDs3 brings it back?</p>Im hoping this isnt the beginning of the end. I was stoked for luke cage s2 and was disappointed. Couldnt even finish IF s1. seems its been awhile since they hit a home run. Maybe DDs3 brings it back?Pan2018-10-13T21:01:40ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistFreehold DMhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4822018-10-13T19:05:05Z2018-10-13T19:05:05Z<p>I doubt this.</p>I doubt this.Freehold DM2018-10-13T19:05:05ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4812018-10-13T11:12:47Z2018-10-13T11:12:47Z<p>Yeah I'm a bit upset about that. I wanted to see where they were going. I guess we will still see him in other defenders shows?</p>Yeah I'm a bit upset about that. I wanted to see where they were going. I guess we will still see him in other defenders shows?Vidmaster72018-10-13T11:12:47ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistCapeCodRPGerhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4802018-10-13T11:11:10Z2018-10-13T11:11:10Z<p><a href="https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/10/13/iron-fist-canceled-netflix-kills-first-marvel-series" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> I did'nt see this coming.</a></p>
<p>I was very curious what they would have done with season 3, too.</p>I did'nt see this coming.
I was very curious what they would have done with season 3, too.CapeCodRPGer2018-10-13T11:11:10ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistVidmaster7https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4792018-09-24T04:32:36Z2018-09-24T04:32:36Z<p>Yeah I feel like both Danny and Davos can't be to relatable mostly just because of where and how they were raised. That's why I give Danny's character a lot of slack personality wise. Dude grew up in a abusive monastery and had to practically beat his only friends to death.</p>Yeah I feel like both Danny and Davos can't be to relatable mostly just because of where and how they were raised. That's why I give Danny's character a lot of slack personality wise. Dude grew up in a abusive monastery and had to practically beat his only friends to death.Vidmaster72018-09-24T04:32:36ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistIrontruthhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4782018-09-24T03:56:36Z2018-09-24T03:56:36Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">phantom1592 wrote:</div><blockquote> Colleen use her fist to power up her sword... (Which as much as I hate the idea of her taking the fist, THAT was the coolest thing EVER!!!!) </blockquote><p>When they first discussed it on the show, I thought it was too cool, and that the show's writers would never do something so cool as give the IF to Colleen. I was impressed that they actually did it. Also, all the scenes where Colleen debates her (potential) relationship to the IF felt way more human than anything Danny or Davos ever said.phantom1592 wrote:Colleen use her fist to power up her sword... (Which as much as I hate the idea of her taking the fist, THAT was the coolest thing EVER!!!!)
When they first discussed it on the show, I thought it was too cool, and that the show's writers would never do something so cool as give the IF to Colleen. I was impressed that they actually did it. Also, all the scenes where Colleen debates her (potential) relationship to the IF felt way more human than anything Danny or Davos ever...Irontruth2018-09-24T03:56:36ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistThomas Seitzhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4772018-09-24T01:25:35Z2018-09-24T01:25:35Z<p>True. But it seems like some of the penchant that dragons have for shiny baubles is still in this version...</p>True. But it seems like some of the penchant that dragons have for shiny baubles is still in this version...Thomas Seitz2018-09-24T01:25:35ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron Fistthejeffhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4762018-09-23T20:25:30Z2018-09-23T12:18:11Z<p>Shou-Lao draws on eastern dragon mythology, not western. They're very different. Or at least a 70s western pop culture underderstanding of them.</p>Shou-Lao draws on eastern dragon mythology, not western. They're very different. Or at least a 70s western pop culture underderstanding of them.thejeff2018-09-23T12:18:11ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistThomas Seitzhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4752018-09-23T12:07:38Z2018-09-23T12:07:38Z<p>Dougal,</p>
<p>As far I know, Shou-Lao, the Undying, doesn't have anything specific D&D dragon traits...at least that I'm aware of. Mostly I think that his power can overwhelm those that aren't ready to balance themselves against his awesome power.</p>
<p>Also, I'm not paying the monster tree fiddy.</p>Dougal,
As far I know, Shou-Lao, the Undying, doesn't have anything specific D&D dragon traits...at least that I'm aware of. Mostly I think that his power can overwhelm those that aren't ready to balance themselves against his awesome power.
Also, I'm not paying the monster tree fiddy.Thomas Seitz2018-09-23T12:07:38ZRe: Forums: Television: Marvel's Iron FistLoch ness monster (alias of Vidmaster7)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2thq4&page=10?Marvels-Iron-Fist#4742018-09-23T12:04:02Z2018-09-23T04:53:27Z<p>Will he start asking people for tree fiddy? ... wait...</p>Will he start asking people for tree fiddy? ... wait...Loch ness monster (alias of Vidmaster7)2018-09-23T04:53:27Z