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It's not easy living in a small town if you're different. :-)

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Maybe that's it. Maybe I'm too normal-looking and thus everyone ignores me?


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Yup. :-)

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Doesn't explain why I have the complete opposite experience from everyone else with big cities though.


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So regarding the earlier conversations and such with regards to cities and crowds and preferences.

Due to some internet prompting, I took the Myers-Briggs Personality Test for the first time a couple days ago. Discovered I am very heavily and extremely typical INTP-T personality. With 100% on the Introvert scale, no less; N, T, and -T were all over 70% as well, with P a little over 50%. Scint always gets INTJ, and I could definitely see bits of myself in the J section, so it's probably not as surprising that I got closer to half-and-half on that part.

So yeah, that explains a LOT about my dislike of cities and crowds and my disinterest in what they have to offer.

I believe I am ENFJ/P depending on the day.

As usual, we are opposite.


Evidence for existing in bizarro world continues to accumulate.

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As a fellow INTP (a type that is somewhat rare but apparently common among gamers - I once worked for a company that decided to see where people fell on the scale and I was the only INTP in a department of 50 or so people), my experience is like Treppa's. Also, to CY's point, being different in some way carries a certain level of anxiety in those small town interactions that I never experience in the city.

Plus, people watching, which is a valid introvert past-time.

PS - FHDM, you should know John is an ENFJ as well. You'll get along great!


hi everyone,

day off today (yesterday national holy day)
I worked a lot in the gardena and had fun with the boy in the afternoon (wife had to work)
now weekend without boy in Baden-Baden

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I can't say that I've been bothered since moving to Mesa. Gotten some solicitors at my door, mostly for house services, once for Jesus. (That was a polite conversation and good practice for explaining my views.) But then, I'm clearly Captain Whitebread and move with a purpose when I'm out an about. Having my own transportation eliminates the risk of bus stop conversations.


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on the Ciry or Country discussion on the last pages:
Country Boy myself, I could not live in a city, I have fun in cities for a few days but get tired of them quickly, I need green around me.
M y village has 3500 people, the muncipality 13.000 in 7 villages.
But we are at the border of the Rhein-Main metropolitan Area around Frankfurt with nearly 6 million people, so I am not that rural and we are well provided with everything you need


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Job situation in Rhein-Main is extremly good (one of the Areas with the biggest growth in europe) so no one in my wider family or my school class has moved away,

even looking at second or third cousins,no one related to me lives more than than 15 miles away

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Yay I'm not completely alone in my desire for space to be alone in ^_^

And yeah, that's always been my preference. A rural or sparse suburban area on the edge of or within a short drive's distance to a larger urban area, so I can drive in, run any errands I need done, and drive back out to beloved seclusion. In Texas it was living in Yoakum and being within a 30- to 45-minute drive to Victoria, Gonzalez, or Cuero. Here it's living in East Brainerd, East Ridge, or Fort O and having easy access to the outer fringes of Chattanooga.

Fort O's pretty much been the perfect place for me. Close enough to Chattanooga and urban enough in itself to make everything I would ever need within a maximum of a 30-minute drive, but rural enough that I don't ever have to deal with crowds or excessively-close urban sprawl, have respectable amounts of greenery and elbow room, and can be left to my lonesome.


I'm of a mind with Sherlock Holmes when it comes to lonely places... ;)

The key to getting by in the city is drawing in your personal space bubble to just over skin level and putting up mental shutters. Also, don't answer the door. You're under no obligation to be invaded. And if they got a warrant, I guess they're gonna come in.

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Treppa wrote:
I'm of a mind with Sherlock Holmes when it comes to lonely places... ;)

Not familiar with this particular quote. Either because it's been too long since I read Holmes or because I missed the story it's from.

Quote:
The key to getting by in the city is drawing in your personal space bubble to just over skin level and putting up mental shutters.

Yeah, that would be a problem, my bubble is pretty big. Hence the need for elbow room.

A lot of which is probably based very heavily on the fact that I did grow up in a fairly spacey area: outside the city limits, with a full acre of land that was ours and pasture on all sides except the street. Other than the couple across the street - who were elderly and didn't come out almost ever, and we only saw two or three times, one of which involved trying to call an ambulance for my brother - our nearest neighbors were almost a quarter-mile away, and had large plots of land of their own, and like our house were set well away from the road with long, sometimes winding driveways.

So that's what I mean when I say I find cities too crowded... I'm not talking about scaling down from the little small-town yards of little neighborhoods all in rows, I'm talking about full landscapes between residences. ;) Which is probably also one of the reasons we never had nosy neighbors coming by. All our neighbors were middle-aged or older, had no kids or grandkids for us to play with when we were that age (not that we would have even if they did, or at least I probably wouldn't), and had large plots of land between us and them filled with livestock.


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From "The Adventure of the Copper Beeches :D

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Huh. I don't recall that at all. Probably just rolled my eyes at it and read on and let that part of the story just slip out of my mind, since it's so antithetical to my own experiences.


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I've been meaning to pick up some Sherlock Holmes. Haven't read it since I was young.


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My theory is this (and it holds for just me-everybody has their own deal)

I have spent my life convinced I hated cities. I grew up in a very rural exurb of Boston, and aside from a stint in the Umass/Amherst dorms (at the time one of the most crowded places per sq ft on the planet) I haven't had much interaction.

However, as I get deeper into Buddhist philosophy, and the science of brain hackery I have decided that just because I have acted or felt one way for my entire life doesn't mean I have to continue that way. So:

  • Cities are scary. I walk the streets, open to experience, until the fear passes.
  • Crowds make me uncomfortable. I push my comfort zone by walking in them until I am more tolerant.
  • Game Rules bother me. I study them until I learn them.
  • Going on trips is expensive and nerve wracking. I plan them and find a way to make them work.
  • I'm uncomfortable changing jobs. I constantly search for new opportunities and reach for advancement.

I will evolve in the time I have left and I will cast off the mental chains I have forged to shackle my soul.


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That's totally how the northwoods are.

Very creepy place to grow up.

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Patrick Curtin wrote:
However, as I get deeper into Buddhist philosophy, and the science of brain hackery I have decided that just because I have acted or felt one way for my entire life doesn't mean I have to continue that way.

That would indeed make a major difference. I have no interest in changing my comfort zones whatsoever and prefer to spend my increasingly-limited time and energy on pursuits I already enjoy.


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Celestial Healer wrote:

As a fellow INTP (a type that is somewhat rare but apparently common among gamers - I once worked for a company that decided to see where people fell on the scale and I was the only INTP in a department of 50 or so people), my experience is like Treppa's. Also, to CY's point, being different in some way carries a certain level of anxiety in those small town interactions that I never experience in the city.

Plus, people watching, which is a valid introvert past-time.

PS - FHDM, you should know John is an ENFJ as well. You'll get along great!

The differences between me and the average small town Dweller are pretty freaking obvious, so I have a heads up on whether or not someone will treat me poorly because I am different. I am also loud and forward according to some, so that covers the first few sentences/seconds of conversation to boot.

Also JOHN JOHN JOHN JOHN JOHN JOHN JOHN


Well, half mile swum

Now a nice perambulation with the poochies


Watching Containment. Sort of meh.


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Goodnight Treeforters. Sleep well. I'll likely kill you in the morning

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Orthos wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
However, as I get deeper into Buddhist philosophy, and the science of brain hackery I have decided that just because I have acted or felt one way for my entire life doesn't mean I have to continue that way.
That would indeed make a major difference. I have no interest in changing my comfort zones whatsoever and prefer to spend my increasingly-limited time and energy on pursuits I already enjoy.

I can see the value in it. When you have become accustomed to all the things you did not enjoy, then everything you do will be something you enjoy.


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Assigns stuffed Spongebob, stuffed Miss Piggy in biker outfit, and stuffed Kermit as a sniper team to watch the jungle entrance of the pillow fort.


Such a long week.

Such a LONGER one starting tomorrow! :/

Good night, John Boy,...

(Oh I'm not showing my age with THAT one, at ALL.) ;P


Orthos wrote:
Treppa wrote:
I'm of a mind with Sherlock Holmes when it comes to lonely places... ;)

Not familiar with this particular quote. Either because it's been too long since I read Holmes or because I missed the story it's from.

Quote:
The key to getting by in the city is drawing in your personal space bubble to just over skin level and putting up mental shutters.

Yeah, that would be a problem, my bubble is pretty big. Hence the need for elbow room.

A lot of which is probably based very heavily on the fact that I did grow up in a fairly spacey area: outside the city limits, with a full acre of land that was ours and pasture on all sides except the street. Other than the couple across the street - who were elderly and didn't come out almost ever, and we only saw two or three times, one of which involved trying to call an ambulance for my brother - our nearest neighbors were almost a quarter-mile away, and had large plots of land of their own, and like our house were set well away from the road with long, sometimes winding driveways.

So that's what I mean when I say I find cities too crowded... I'm not talking about scaling down from the little small-town yards of little neighborhoods all in rows, I'm talking about full landscapes between residences. ;) Which is probably also one of the reasons we never had nosy neighbors coming by. All our neighbors were middle-aged or older, had no kids or grandkids for us to play with when we were that age (not that we would have even if they did, or at least I probably wouldn't), and had large plots of land between us and them filled with livestock.

I would go quite insane.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Badonkadonk Cummerbund wrote:
The key to getting by in the city is drawing in your personal space bubble to just over skin level and putting up mental shutters.
Yeah, that would be a problem, my bubble is pretty big. Hence the need for elbow room.
I would go quite insane.

Interesting. {updates Detailed Files}


TriOmegaZero wrote:
Orthos wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
However, as I get deeper into Buddhist philosophy, and the science of brain hackery I have decided that just because I have acted or felt one way for my entire life doesn't mean I have to continue that way.
That would indeed make a major difference. I have no interest in changing my comfort zones whatsoever and prefer to spend my increasingly-limited time and energy on pursuits I already enjoy.
I can see the value in it. When you have become accustomed to all the things you did not enjoy, then everything you do will be something you enjoy.

Exactly. And what I have discovered is that oftentimes you don't even know WHY you disliked something in the first place. Yet your brain becomes so habituated to thought patterns that when you, for example, say 'I'd like to go to New York City to visit my friends', and your brain instantly throws up 'you don't like cities' , 'you don't like crowds', 'you don't like traveling '. That limits you. If you can move past the knee-jerk subconscious fears you sometimes discover that what you disliked is actually enjoyable. It was just your senseless habitual reaction that made it unenjoyable.

While I might never feel completely at ease in a crowded space, I can now realize it is more of an obstacle to overcome to gain a prize, rather than something to be avoided at all cost.


GOOD MORNING TREEFORTNAM!!


Today I'm planting an heirloom vegetable I read about, and became intensely curious to try. It doesn't grow well commercially, but is supposedly a tasty root vegetable.

Skirret


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Such a long week.

Such a LONGER one starting tomorrow! :/

Good night, John Boy,...

(Oh I'm not showing my age with THAT one, at ALL.) ;P

Do they even play the Waltons on TV anymore?

Wait, of course they must, somewhere. There's still too much bandwidth to fill. Nothing ever goes entirely off the air these days.


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Patrick Curtin wrote:

Today I'm planting an heirloom vegetable I read about, and became intensely curious to try. It doesn't grow well commercially, but is supposedly a tasty root vegetable.

Skirret

Interesting. Very cool! I hope it works out. :-)


Ah, there is nothing more relaxing than a good pedicure. Women are so brilliant, I wish I had known how awesome a process it was long ago.


I bought some organizational supplies and this afternoon (after exercise) I will be working on my PbPs and my meta project of learning Pathfinder rules more completely


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The dog tricked me into a super long walk by the railroad tracks.

I guess it's my fault for not paying attention to where he was leading me. :-)


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This will be the Summer of Gaming!


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captain yesterday wrote:

The dog tricked me into a super long walk by the railroad tracks.

I guess it's my fault for not paying attention to where he was leading me. :-)

Dogs are sneaky like that


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He's a Beagle, so honestly I doubt if he knew where he was going, just following his nose. :-)


I still need to work on my GenCon plans. My new driving job should help

Plus June is a three-paycheck month. Yay!


captain yesterday wrote:
He's a Beagle, so honestly I doubt if he knew where he was going, just following his nose. :-)

Dogs live in the moment. I envy them that. I have to work hard to shut off my higher brain and just enjoy what I am doing.


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Very true.


Ah. I feel like I am walking on the soft squishy bodies of cherubs. Bliss!


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After years of having issues, I finally buckled down and set out to solve the problem of what was wrong with my wireless cable modem. Turns out that it's not an issue with the modem part or the cable part-- just the wireless part. Plugging my laptop or my 360 directly into the ethernet port solves 100% of the connectivity issues. Also, Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer works now.


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In other news, drinking my first can of Surge in 15 years. I feel like I'm on an episode of Brad Tries.


Lords, it is good to be busy. Shopping done, physical maintenance done, physical exercise halfway done. Soon I'll go home and prep my pulled pork for slow cooking


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Ragadolf wrote:

Such a long week.

Such a LONGER one starting tomorrow! :/

Good night, John Boy,...

(Oh I'm not showing my age with THAT one, at ALL.) ;P

Do they even play the Waltons on TV anymore?

Wait, of course they must, somewhere. There's still too much bandwidth to fill. Nothing ever goes entirely off the air these days.

THIS is true.

Good luck with the veggies!


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On an interesting note,
I got multiple texts from 3 people telling to come across the street asap.
I go over, and I get handed an audition form.

Turns out they are preparing to do a 'Workshop production' for a musical here, bringing in producers, etc from New York to help build it and watch it.

Heres the great part, not only does it actually fit my busy schedule, it is a PAID gig, and is possible (not likely, but possible) to get picked up and actually go do off-broadway or a tour with the show!

So,... I think I did OK for going in cold and unprepared.

Speaking of 'Positive thinking makes things happen!' :)


Ragadolf wrote:

On an interesting note,

I got multiple texts from 3 people telling to come across the street asap.
I go over, and I get handed an audition form.

Turns out they are preparing to do a 'Workshop production' for a musical here, bringing in producers, etc from New York to help build it and watch it.

Heres the great part, not only does it actually fit my busy schedule, it is a PAID gig, and is possible (not likely, but possible) to get picked up and actually go do off-broadway or a tour with the show!

So,... I think I did OK for going in cold and unprepared.

Speaking of 'Positive thinking makes things happen!' :)

Well, that's some good news! Glad to hear things are going well for you, Rags.

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