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What did people thing of the new X-files? I saw the first episode and it was a lot of fun. It was great seeing Mulder and Scully again, and I'm interested to see where the new incarnation of the conspiracy is going. Looking forward to tonight's monster of the week episode as well.

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It was ok. Good enough to keep watching.


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It seemed tired.

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Not so much a comment on the show, but the marketing...

Since when was the X-Files a cult show? It was among the biggest things on TV for almost a decade!


I am glad to see it return, but a Cap denotes, something has changed in the chemistry of the show, somehow tired indeed applies to both Molder and Scully. I see flashes of the old X Files, but the magic has lessened in the interregnum. I will still watch the mini series, but thus far this is not the X Files return I was expecting.


I set my DVR for it and f****** football preempted it, causing it to record only the first half of the first episode. My hatred for football has grown exponentially.


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Hulu has it.


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Despite the issues, I get a bit misty eyed when the original intro comes on.


Honestly, I don't think either of their hearts were in this. Gillian has more dramatically acclaimed work to her credit, and David his own writing and Californication.

I guess they were finally offered enough money to make it worth their time, but I don't get the sense they really wanted to do it.

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I actually felt that the tired chemistry between them in the first episode was purposeful, to reflect that their relationship has been severely damaged, and they're no longer a couple. This was not the case as much in the 2nd episode I felt.

Also, from the reports I've read over the years, both of them have been more than happy to do more X-files, but simply didn't have Fox approving a new TV series or movie until recently. Their careers might be why it's only 6 episodes instead of more, but I have never gotten the impression from interviews that they didn't want to.


JoelF847 wrote:

I actually felt that the tired chemistry between them in the first episode was purposeful, to reflect that their relationship has been severely damaged, and they're no longer a couple. This was not the case as much in the 2nd episode I felt.

Also, from the reports I've read over the years, both of them have been more than happy to do more X-files, but simply didn't have Fox approving a new TV series or movie until recently. Their careers might be why it's only 6 episodes instead of more, but I have never gotten the impression from interviews that they didn't want to.

Agreed.

There seemed to be a couple that the world has beaten into the ground. who fought the good fight and never went anywhere. They just seem to have a resignation about them.

WHICH if we're honest was there in the show too. AND the movies. They see the last 2 decades of their life as kind of pointless. There's talk about the show going for 9 years... but honestly, the last 2-3 or more seasons were pretty rough. Mulder was hit and miss for those seasons and he both agents were replaced with new people that just didn't work.

From what I've seen the actors love the series and love doing them. That's how we got that 2nd movie years after the show finalized. I'd heard they just have trouble getting their schedules in order to be in the same place at the same time.


captain yesterday wrote:
Hulu has it.

Thanks. Not being a Hulu subscriber, I'll have to wait a few days to see it, but I'll definitely watch it.


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Have you tried their first week free.


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No, but knowing me I'd forget and get charged. I know it's not much, but I live on a tight, tight budget.


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I get it, I'm the same way. :-)

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16

I thought it's on Fox.com or whatever for free as well.

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I forgot how much gobbledygook they spouted.

Also, what skills does Mulder bring that Scully doesn't? She gas FBI training + doctor training. He seems to have just FBI training. Am I missing something?

But I like the idea of

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the conspiracy being a conspiracy to hide the conspiracy of the conspiracy.


Well Mulder brings his background as a profiler + encyclopediac knowledge of paranormal stuff. Granted the last episode didn't really get to use much of that.

So far I am continuing to watch it. I think the stand alones will turn out to be much stronger than these two conspiracy oriented episodes. I truly feels like Xfiles, and given what happened to Heroes things could have been far far worse...


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I enjoyed both episodes so far. It just felt like the X-Files of old to me, which is all I wanted. Agree with what was said previously about them being tired due to having the fight mostly beaten out of them. Hopefully the reopening of the X-Files will reinvigorate them more as the series goes on.

Mulder brings his better skills in Knowledge (Paranormal), Perform (Oratory), Sense Motive, Escape Artist and Sleight of Hand. Although Scully wins on Heal, Knowledge (Religion), Handle Animal and Intimidate.


One thing I didn't understand...

WHY was the X-files reopened? There seemed to be a massive jump at that end of that first episode. It kind of went from 'Everything we know is wrong...' to 'By the way the government conspiracy that shut you down 13 years ago is fine with you back again?'

With all the pushback the X-files got years ago and how they were wiped away and forgotten about... I'm just surprised to see them as FBI again. I really thought this 'season' would be them working freelance or something. It should take a bit more work to get everything reinstated again that smoothly O.o

I had to back track to see if I missed an episode.


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Because there's no show if they don't get reopened?

Yeah, I couldn't figure out why Mulder and Scully were re-hired by the FBI either, other than maybe Skinner was able to make the call himself, and was just looking for an excuse to get them back on board.

I've just made a conscious decision to not sweat the small stuff. We've only got 6 episodes, I'm just going to assume that they didn't want to spend too long worrying about details and just focus on making the kind of episodes everyone wants to see.

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Yes, the 6 episodes format means fast paced, as evidenced by

stuff that happened:
the medium lady getting 'sploded in her car only on the 2nd episode... and she was supposed to be the "key to everything". Same goes for BBEG doctor / experimenting on kids getting offed almost immediately after he's introduced... oh, and man-made starship gettin' 'sploded as soon as Mulder finds it... too...


Everyone is:
a sploding!

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yes.... bigger budget this time around it seems... I can't believe they're just going for 6 shows... what the hell??


Perhaps it will be extended if the run does well enough?


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
yes.... bigger budget this time around it seems... I can't believe they're just going for 6 shows... what the hell??

I assume its a limited season because Anderson and Duchovny are less interested in doing full seasons of TV than they were when they first started. Also it's fox testing the waters of nostalgia land to see whether the show still have enough legs to be brought back in future seasons or in any form of reboot/new cast

If it does well it wouldn't surprise me if it gets a 10 ep order or something next year. Honestly short seasons seem to mean better quantity nowadays anyway.

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Maybe they're just following the BBC model?

I just hope they don't follow the example of Luther: 6, 4, 3, 2 episodes in series 1, 2, 3, and 4.

I think.

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I'd be fine if they have additional seasons that featured new agents in the X-files, but also had Mulder and Scully around for some episodes, to allow for a longer season, and letting Duchovny and Anderson to have a shorter season for their busy schedules.


Did...did the X-Files just give us a campy B movie story on Monday...I..I think that just happened.

Dunno if it was on purpose, but you could see Horned Lizard Man's real bottom lip, I am confused, what happened to the dark and cynical nature of the original X-Files? I laughed as the episode last night WAS funny, but funny is not what I watched the original X-files for.

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GM_Beernorg wrote:

Did...did the X-Files just give us a campy B movie story on Monday...I..I think that just happened.

Dunno if it was on purpose, but you could see Horned Lizard Man's real bottom lip, I am confused, what happened to the dark and cynical nature of the original X-Files? I laughed as the episode last night WAS funny, but funny is not what I watched the original X-files for.

Almost every season of the X-files has had one completely off the wall humorous episode. This was the one for the mini-season.


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True, else we would never have watched Mulder eat an entire sweet potato pie in the original seasons, point taken. Guess this last one was just a bit sillier than I expected.

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JoelF847 wrote:
GM_Beernorg wrote:

Did...did the X-Files just give us a campy B movie story on Monday...I..I think that just happened.

Dunno if it was on purpose, but you could see Horned Lizard Man's real bottom lip, I am confused, what happened to the dark and cynical nature of the original X-Files? I laughed as the episode last night WAS funny, but funny is not what I watched the original X-files for.

Almost every season of the X-files has had one completely off the wall humorous episode. This was the one for the mini-season.

Just watched it. Amazing. Loved it.

cool stuff:
....and the lizard goes back to sleep for 10,000 years. My favorite part is how he was chilling at the beginning with a piece of hay looking into the night sky. And then there's the amazing narration of how, as he transformed as a human, he felt compelled to look for a job and pay a mortgage, as if this slavery was pretty much built-in into our species...
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Purple Dragon Knight:

A job and a mortgage are modern human's version of The Hunt and The Lair.

Both provide sustenance and shelter.

Just different ecologies.

Of course, I know nothing about cellphone either...

Except if your cellphone says its battery is dying, it means its battery is dying and will soon just be a plastic rectangle. And you will soon be trapped in the 90s.

The 1990s.

When music was good, fashion was flannel, and even the pessimists were looking forward to something.


Now I miss the 90's even more than normal, long live flannel, Doc Martins, and X-Files.

Now that I reflect on that episode, the "were-human" theme actually dug pretty deep, it just does it with soft foam claws.


I've been enjoying this series... but does anyone else think that they are just 'showing' too much? Aliens, lizard men, spaceships...

The original series had stuff like that, but it was more kept to the shadows, or dead, or inert... something that even after you got a glimpse or saw a picture... the audience AND the characters were STILL unsure what they saw.

This year has a lot more special fx and cgi... but it really feels detrimental to the mood.

Though I'm not really sure i'd WANT them to go back to the 'I've spent my whole life looking and never found anything' trope either... So i'm a bit torn. This one seems to be a pay off of the last 20 years of mysteries...


Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
yes.... bigger budget this time around it seems... I can't believe they're just going for 6 shows... what the hell??

Duchovny said in an interview neither he or Anderson were interested in doing a full 22-episode season. They talked about doing a 13-episode season, but their schedules only ended up allowing a 6-episode season.

They both said they are open to doing more.

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Hmmm yes.... money and all that. I want more Californication too...


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If cable has taught me anything, it's that drama and mystery type shows are better in 10-12 episode seasons, anything past that, and s#@$ gets convoluted, fast.

Just an observation i've had.


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I kind of like the pale blue jacket and the straw hat the were-human was wearing. I think that was a shout out.

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John Kretzer wrote:
I kind of like the pale blue jacket and the straw hat the were-human was wearing. I think that was a shout out.

Totally a shout out.


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I think the episode was even better for Kiwis...

Spoiler:
Rhys Darby (the Lizardman/Manlizard) was the star of the 2Degrees phone adverts for a couple of years, and that brand looks remarkably similar to the phone shop he worked in in the episode. And he was also the lead werewolf in "What We Do in the Shadows" (awesome movie), so this was very familiar ground for him.


captain yesterday wrote:

If cable has taught me anything, it's that drama and mystery type shows are better in 10-12 episode seasons, anything past that, and s@%+ gets convoluted, fast.

Just an observation i've had.

I'm the opposite. I like a good long 22 episode season for my shows. The more the merrier. With the 10 episode 'short seasons' They're either trying to cram too much stuff in... or more often WAY too drawn out. Worst of all, if they are doing the 'one case a year' type of detectives, you know full ahead that the first 8 episodes are going to be a waste. There will be 4-5 people spotlighted for the crime, but with 6 episodes left to go, you KNOW they aren't the killer.

There have been a LOT of shows lately like that. Broadchurch, Killing, Messengers, Whispering Pines... Zoo... Dig.... 10 hour mini-series that if they just cut out the red herrings and false leads would have been a 2 hour movie and told just as good a story.

Heck, 12 monkeys WAS a 2 hour movie and it was handled a bit better then the series was. There is a fine line between character development and padding.

As for series that are NOT just one story.. but have some kind of meta-plot in the background. I really like the occasional 'non-metaplot' episodes BETTER. I really like the 'side quests' just as much as the main story.


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GM_Beernorg wrote:
True, else we would never have watched Mulder eat an entire sweet potato pie in the original seasons, point taken. Guess this last one was just a bit sillier than I expected.

Yeah Darrin Morgan did this ep, who did some of the more memorable comedic episodes: Clyde Bruckman's final repose, War of the Coprophages, etc.

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Pretty surprised by the ending of the finale last night.

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It certainly ended in a way that implies another season, rather than the "we'd love to do another season if we can get everyone's schedule aligned."

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JoelF847:
Yeah, that ending was real abrupt! I thought it was a big tease!


Spoiler:
The smoking man, still a huge dick


CSM has become the Abominable Dr. Phibes, and recruited Agent Reyes to act as his Vulnavia.

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Did he drink through his neckhole?

The Smoking Man is a total neckhole!!!

;-)


My wife was so annoyed by the season finale last night, I am ashamed to say it amuses me. I was betting it would go that way, and I know she can't stand open arcs.

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I was annoyed with it, too, but I had kind of disconnected from it when it was another plague episode. I'm not entertained by sick people, so I wasn't paying 100% attention to that episode.

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