i think my pathfinder group is messing with me....


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i play an alchemist/fighter. anyways i started playing this character and it slipped right pass me but the dm put me in full plate armor. so i am a full metal alchemist >.> did my dm just make my character Alphonse Elric. anyways i have been trying to get rid of the full plate armor since day one since i am an agile ranged combatant and the full plate is slowing me down.....? anyways it's Elysium bronze full plate armor. i wana know if

1.) can i use my crafting skills to remake all that full-plate armor into a different kind of armor.

or

2.) get rid of most of the armor and just keep breastplate and the gauntlet and have it still function?

or

3.) do a bit of 1 and 2 and come up with something better?

or am i just being a fool and just shut up and play an archer alchemist in full-plate armor with 14 str?

Liberty's Edge

Sell the heavy armor and buy adequate protection. Also tell the GM how much this ruins your fun. Otherwise retrain as a Paladin


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

how did the dm put you in the armor?

Scarab Sages

Yeah. Just sell it and buy what you want. Full plate will MORE than make up the price difference. You might even be able to get a +1 version of your armor.


Davor wrote:
Yeah. Just sell it and buy what you want. Full plate will MORE than make up the price difference. You might even be able to get a +1 version of your armor.
The Raven Black wrote:
Sell the heavy armor and buy adequate protection. Also tell the GM how much this ruins your fun. Otherwise retrain as a Paladin

i would but there's no where to sell it. and if i did i would not be able to get anything as good. the dm decided that the world was a low magic Conan world.

there is already a paladin in the group and i don't want to play as a pally. and if i could i would retrain in a second.

2ndGenerationCleric wrote:
how did the dm put you in the armor?

i have a couple levels of fighter.

can i get rid of all but the chest-plate and one forearm guard of the full-plate armor and and use it as a breastplate and use the forearm guard as a buckler like thing?


The question is did he make thr armor available and chose to wear it, or was it mandates that you wear it?


What armor does the paladin wear? Maybe he'd like what you have.


There's optional rules on d20pfsrd.com on the bottom right for piecemeal armor. A sufficiently high craft check would let you forge the armor into a new shape, as a DM I'd let you melt the metal down and use that, any excess metal paying the non metal crafting materials.

I also hold to the mechanics of a system without confusing them for fluff. I'd let you keep the full plate "look" and be a Fullmetal Alchemist in appearance if you wanted, with stats on paper for elven chain or whatever.

Grand Lodge

Edward was the Full metal alchemist. Not Alphonse.

But your DM might have done it as a joke.


Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:

Edward was the Full metal alchemist. Not Alphonse.

But your DM might have done it as a joke.

true but Alphonse was the one stuck in the full-plate armor and in one of the story arcs he did become an alchemist.

Shiroi wrote:
There's optional rules on d20pfsrd.com on the bottom right for piecemeal armor. A sufficiently high craft check would let you forge the armor into a new shape, as a DM I'd let you melt the metal down and use that, any excess metal paying the non metal crafting materials.

i could not find anything about reforging armor there.

wraithstrike wrote:
The question is did he make thr armor available and chose to wear it, or was it mandates that you wear it?

i was making my charater and was told not to worry about armor or weapons that the team had that covered. i asked if they had any ranged they said no. i should have remembered the armor was full plate.

Kobold Cleaver wrote:
What armor does the paladin wear? Maybe he'd like what you have.

the very same kind of armor.we got two sets then a magical beast killed me. forgot to say it is Elysian Bronze so its is all shiny and defiantly paladin armor.


zainale wrote:

i play an alchemist/fighter. anyways i started playing this character and it slipped right pass me but the dm put me in full plate armor. so i am a full metal alchemist >.> did my dm just make my character Alphonse Elric. anyways i have been trying to get rid of the full plate armor since day one since i am an agile ranged combatant and the full plate is slowing me down.....? anyways it's Elysium bronze full plate armor. i wana know if

1.) can i use my crafting skills to remake all that full-plate armor into a different kind of armor.

or

2.) get rid of most of the armor and just keep breastplate and the gauntlet and have it still function?

or

3.) do a bit of 1 and 2 and come up with something better?

or am i just being a fool and just shut up and play an archer alchemist in full-plate armor with 14 str?

Well lets look at the description for full plate:

"This metal suit includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and a thick layer of padding that is worn underneath the armor. Each suit of full plate must be individually fitted to its owner by a master armorsmith..."

So the reason that full plate is so heavy, and encumbering, and protective, is in fact because its made up of various different components. At the very least, taking it most of it off might resemble some sort of medium/light armor. I would ask the GM, if at the very least removing most of the armor could yield something like an armored coat for you to wear. Maybe even a breastplate.

Hell, you can even argue that the "thick layer of padding like the 5 Gp padded armor. If you have high enough Dex, that might provide some Dex AC for you.

Overall however, I am vastly confused as to why the GM would force you to wear/use something your character doesn't want. Pathfinder, or dnd in general, is all about character freedom and the agency to allow players to do what they want to do within the confines of the rules. In a friendly tabletop setting those rules might even get a little more lenient.

Maybe before or after the session, approach your GM 1 on 1 and explain that while your character might have really good AC, wearing the Full plate is REALLY handicapping your character on the intentions and functionality.
This is the same point of view of somehow forcing a wizard into full plate... The arcane spell failure chance would mean he would risk fudging up his spells consistently. Or also like forcing a druid to wear metal armor. It just doesn't make sense.

Now if the full plate was cursed... that might be a totally different thing... But you shouldn't bring that up a possibility unless this GM might consider such lengths to handicap your character.

Dark Archive

What is it about the full plate that is bothering you?

The only disadvantages of wearing full plate are the movement penalty (which for most purposes is the same as medium armor, unless you are running), and the armor check penalty (which isn't likely to cause you too many problems unless you are a roguish, skill-based character). If you are focusing on the armor check penalty, the difference between full plate (-6) and a breastplate (-4) is pretty minimal, and your armor class is almost certainly going to be better in the full plate.

Mobility and ranged characters don't mix particularly well in Pathfinder: if you are maximizing your efficiency as an archer, you want to NOT move anymore than absolutely necessary, so that you can full attack nearly every round.

What is it that you don't like about the plate?


Fernn

yea i probably got the cursed armor >.>

Argus The Slayer

a few things really.

full-plate is 50 pounds of weight and i and my mount are already carrying somewhere around 250 pounds. yea i am keeping my that wagon.

what do you imagine when you think of an archer or ranger? now what do you imagine when you think of a magical doctor/mad scientist? also what do you imagine when you think of a fire starter?

in my imagination i don't see any of them in full plate armor. if anything the guy would be wearing any armor under a sleek outfit because looks are everything also a gas mask because of all those toxic fumes he is working/experimenting with.(haven't made that yet)

i am basically the roguish, skill-based character that is also the face of the party and the medic and the guy that makes stuff explode. i imagine that full plate armor would hinder my movements but since its the most magicy sort of armor we might get it would be a shame to let it go to waste sitting and what ever bronze does.... rust? since we have no where we could sell it. if i could i would remake the full plate armor into something else more useful(for my character) in an instant. i just don't see an archer/bomber wearing full plate armor.

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