Netflix's Hemlock Grove


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Sovereign Court

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Wow, just wow. I finished Season 1 last night, and I'm already bummed out there's only 3 seasons of this. Last 2 minutes of S1E2 is unbelievable! Well done!

Anyone else watching this? I had some vague flashbacks to Carrion Crown AP while watching this! :)

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16

I couldn't get into the show. I gave it a few episodes, and couldn't get past the unexplained weird alternate version of the world it took place in. It was clearly set in America, but there was vehemently strong anti-gypsy hate? "F&**&ing Gypsy" is a line that I still laugh at. I'm pretty sure most Americans wouldn't know a gypsy if they were at a gypsy convention.

Sovereign Court

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Hmmm... I could understand anti-gypsy hate in America (especially a small town). Then again, I can also understand anti-anything hate in America. I think the story is set in Pennsylvania... but if you think the show has this weird odd-looking vibe it may be because it was all filmed in some older Canadian towns


Love the show, the gypsy hate is..odd, I think I get why (small town as said, insular, and has had issues before) but doesn't mean I like it just because I see the story line based foundation of it.

Outside of that though, yeah, kick that white werewolf arse, yeah yeah!!

Seriously, never...piss..off...Shelly.

Sovereign Court

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I love Shelley!

I would have written the show differently in regards to the Sheriff though, as he displayed more intelligence and character complexity than that displayed in that final Season 1 battle. IMO, there's NO. WAY. ON. EARTH. a good cop like that would do something like this without warning. I said "good cop"... YES, I'm aware there's been hundreds of real-world cops who have done just that, but I'd like to hazard that a senior Sheriff would not act so recklessly, especially

this:
with a shotgun pointed towards a GROUP of kids... No way.


Yeah, the sheriff and his off the deep endness in the end of season 1 was very odd, though perhaps it was a very calculated move on the writers part to show us exactly how weird things can get in Hemlock Grove, or to provide a jarring, "there are no heroes" message, not really sure, but I too did not like that very much.

Sovereign Court

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One of the reasons it kinda pissed me off is that

spoiler:
he's probably the only normal human in the show, if you think of it... everyone else is some kind of monster, enhanced, mystical or paranormal hunter of some kind... it was like "regular humans are basically SOL" in this show...


Yeah, quite true there Purple D!

No matter that she is not normal, Destiny can have all the screen time she wants...::uses the lecherous smile::

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Pawns Subscriber

uh... YES! :)


Gotta respect a woman that can eat a caterpillar that big to foretell the future, and with a tequila chaser to boot :)

Liberty's Edge

While I haven't seen the show, I could certainly believe a certain amount of Antiziganism in a rural, declining western PA town. I certainly saw elements of it in similar places in northeast PA.


Been fly fishing in such places in PA, yeah, as a New Yorker, I felt a bit uncomfortable, guess there is some basis to it, and I am not a gypsy nor supernatural in nature even.

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GM_Beernorg wrote:
Been fly fishing in such places in PA, yeah, as a New Yorker, I felt a bit uncomfortable, guess there is some basis to it, and I am not a gypsy nor supernatural in nature even.

Who comes online to claim "I swear! I'm not even supernatural in nature!"

Hmmmm...


<---- completely normal, I swear it!

::throws smoke bomb and runs::

Liberty's Edge

GM_Beernorg wrote:
Been fly fishing in such places in PA, yeah, as a New Yorker, I felt a bit uncomfortable, guess there is some basis to it, and I am not a gypsy nor supernatural in nature even.

Well, that's because you're a New Yorker. ;)

Rural PA can be very insular. I lived in the same small town all my life, but I was still sort of an outsider since my grandparents were not born there.

It does not tend to be dangerously xenophobic, but it can be unwelcoming.

Without having seen more than the plot summary if it's accurate to western PA it's less antiziganism and more anti-Peter with antiziganic slurs and threats being how it manifests.

Liberty's Edge RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16

Oh, I completely buy being insular and anti-outsider. It's the anti-gypsy thing I couldn't get past. I felt like I was watching a show set in an alternate reality where hordes of gypsies roved across the USA, but there was never any explanation or even off handed reference to this. It's just as weird as if they were anti-Theban, like there was a huge problem with ancient Greek Thebans roaming the town, taking their jobs and women, etc.

Liberty's Edge

Insults and slurs, from my experience, tend to be personalized in PA.

The antiziganic slurs are, if they were used at all by the people i knew growing up, specific to hurting person being insulted not because there's a hatred of Roma in general.


I really liked season 1 but gave up on season 2 a few episodes in. Two many cliff hangers from the first season were abandoned or had a bridge drop on them, and the show seemed to be setting up the same plot and character interplay from the first season, without much reason.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

I thought S1 was OK, but only made it through 1 or 2 eps of S2.

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