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I don't know what to say about the swelling, since I didn't have it (or at least not enough to write home about) even after the first butchery that I went through. But if you want a hot moist towel, you just have to reheat it under hot water frequently, or alternatively use a small wet rag droped on a hot water bottle.
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but if you need a liquid diet I'd suggest trying Soylent.
I like the Green flavor!
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Alright, it's been a few days, I'm doing fine, jaw's sore as hell but whatever. Only issue, aside from a serious pretzel craving, is that my cheeks are a bit swollen. My instructions say to apply moist heat to it but I'm not sure how to do that. I tried running a small towel under hot water but it cools off too fast. Any ideas?
Wrap the hot wet towel in plastic wrap, it will keep the heat in longer, and there will still be enough ambient moisture to be safe.
You can also wet the towel and nuke it for a minute so it gets nice and hot (be careful handling and if it's too hot of course wait to cool).
A little essential oil on the towel makes it smell nice and can help with the soothing--should you happen to have any.
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For me, it became necessary due to other stuff done in my mouth. The roots are flimsy now. I suppose that means it will hurt less having it extracted.
Milk tooth shouldn't have terribly developed root... Unless without the permanent tooth to push it out years ago it grew one?
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Hope your pain medications are good and you heal quickly without any complications.
I've got no advice, as my wisdom teeth never came in.
Neither have mine.
(Seriously.) {goes back to poking hair pins in electrical outlet}
Wanna take my plug in with severed piece of un-isolated cord sticking from it? (yes, I did put one in electric outlet when I was kid, that electric stinging was fun... We had 220 V then in our grid...)
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Oh, probably too late for the OP, but if you need a liquid diet I'd suggest trying Soylent. It's a smoothie mix that's fairly complete, nutrition-wise. {. . .}Just don't get Soylent Green. You never know
whowhat is in it . . . .
It's half a problem if you don't know the one who got inside... What is worse, is that it might be someone you knew...
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^This reminds me of that Far Side chicken soup cartoon . . . .
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Keep them on a chain and wear them around your neck when going out adventuring. They'll help you be more aware of your surroundings, and make your scripture verses more persuasive.
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How crafty are you? You could make a baby teeth wisdom teeth doll. (If you are on strong painkillers, this might seem like a better idea than it actually is.)
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^Interesting take on the Spell Poppet for a Gravewalker Witch . . . .
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My instructions say to apply moist heat to it but I'm not sure how to do that. I tried running a small towel under hot water but it cools off too fast. Any ideas?
If you have a hot/cold pack (one of the ones you can both freeze and microwave), heat that up and wrap it in a damp cloth—it should keep its heat for a good while.
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Allot of good advice, as my dear mother was a dental hygienist, heard many a good piece of advice, though our community has passed along most of the needed wisdom. Heat and cold pack is a must, and seriously, do not smoke, no matter how nicfitty you get, the results is not good.
A once you are able to drink liquids, there is always the grampa's cure, a good scotch whiskey (taken in moderation, especially if pain killers are involved) but many people swear by the old stand by :)
Quick recovery how ever you do it though!
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I had my last milk tooth extracted today. It was over in 10-15 seconds. I had been dreading it all day, and now I feel like a big baby. There were two moments of a queasy, wrong feeling, and then it was over. Local anaesthesia is fading now, and the post-adrenaline shakes are over. Mrgh.
A once you are able to drink liquids, there is always the grampa's cure, a good scotch whiskey (taken in moderation, especially if pain killers are involved) but many people swear by the old stand by :)
Just a quick reminder that if you are on antibiotics (common after dental surgery) you are not supposed to have alcohol. Although if you are very careful, painkiller+ alcohol= Trip to Slumberland Obviously, don't even think of doing this if you are driving, and always be VERY careful mixing anything. If you are in doubt, don't do it.
Sissyl - Glad you had a good dental experience! I love it when something like that goes well.
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What Fergie said, and I really did mean moderation, and that is of course, if at all.
But yeah, glad to hear things went smooth Sissyl!
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Take the painkillers BEFORE you start to feel pain. Pain will make you tense which will make you feel pain which will make you tense which...
After five doses of anesthetic I woke up during my extractions to "check the restraints, check the restraints!!" and the sound of bending metal. Fun times...
Go to sleep as often as you can. A) your body needs to heal and B) Any portion of the next few days you can skip are good portions.
Well it's been a week and I'm mostly back to full function. Just gotta irrigate my bottom slots where the teeth used to be and be a bit careful with eating. And of course saltwater rinses.
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not one joke about WIS penalties or Will Saves
abandon all hope ye who enter here
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not one joke about WIS penalties or Will Saves
abandon all hope ye who enter here
Subtle slaad is subtle (but perhaps not funny):
.I've got no advice, as my wisdom teeth never came in. {goes back to poking hair pins in electrical outlet}
I had three out in one go under general anaesthetic and may face swelled up and went yellow like Shrek.
I struggled to open my mouth more than a cm for more than a week because of the swelling around my jaw. It slowly got better after 10 days or so.
My only advice would be don't worry, and don't read the Internet! I was convinced my jaw was dislocated after googling for advice. It obviously wasn't as it got better on its own.
Google is not a qualified doctor, as surprising as that is ;)
Going in at 2pm to have two teeth extracted. It is a little depressing, because those teeth once anchored a nice bridge, which I kind of thought would last forever. It took a lot of money and a fair amount of pain to get that bridge, so I hate to lose it.
I'll be getting an IV sedative for the first time, which I'm really happy about, despite the cost. I hope this is quicker then the time it would take to pull a tooth doubled, but I guess with the IV, I hopefully won't care.
I've had two teeth extracted recently, one a month ago and the other two days ago. It's surreal to watch something that looks exceedingly painful but feel nothing. It's almost dissociative.
I haven't really had swelling or pain from either though. My biggest concern is figuring out what I won't be able to eat anymore with a molar less on each side.
Watch? How did you watch it? Or you mean watching the dentist sticking a bunch of tools in your mouth?
Watch? How did you watch it? Or you mean watching the dentist sticking a bunch of tools in your mouth?
I can think of two possible ways:
1) One of the dentist's tools includes a camera and there is a monitor placed where he can see it, or
2) He watched it through his eye teeth.
The second option is obviously just a bad joke, but the first is certainly possible -- my dentist has done it.
I've had two teeth extracted recently, one a month ago and the other two days ago. It's surreal to watch something that looks exceedingly painful but feel nothing. It's almost dissociative.
I haven't really had swelling or pain from either though. My biggest concern is figuring out what I won't be able to eat anymore with a molar less on each side.
From my experience, you can still feel a lot of what the oral surgeon is doing in the area around your mouth, and dear god, the sounds! There is nothing quite like the drilling and sound of teeth cracking.
This time I got the IV sedative, and I found that to be VERY strange. I recall him explaining what was going on with the first injection or two, then the next thing I know, he is giving me instructions for changing the gauze. The surgery took about an hour and a half, but I don't remember any part of it. It is especially odd because on some level, I think I was awake, and suspect the memories are there, but just can't find them. For example, for several days after the extractions, I thought I needed to make an appointment for having the stitches removed. Then I found an appointment card in my pocket, and it triggered the memory of talking to the receptionist before I left the office. Weird.A couple less molars shouldn't really affect you at all once the gums heal. Right now, I'm down several teeth on both sides, and I can still eat everything except the supper chewy stuff like raw carrots or tough meat.
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^That is why I NEVER want to have sedatives or any more anaesthetic than the minimum needed for an operation to work. The prospect of memory loss is far worse than the prospect of pain. I also refused anaesthetic and sedative for my second colonoscopy even though the medical staff pushed these hard (none was offered for the first, at a different place . . . Where that was one of only a few things that they did right).
^That is why I NEVER want to have sedatives or any more anaesthetic than the minimum needed for an operation to work. The prospect of memory loss is far worse than the prospect of pain. I also refused anaesthetic and sedative for my second colonoscopy even though the medical staff pushed these hard (none was offered for the first, at a different place . . . Where that was one of only a few things that they did right).
I... cannot identify with that mindset at all. I'll take a bit of temporary forgetfulness over drills, needles, and whatever else ripping teeth out of my head.
Of course, easy for me to say, since I did say earlier my teeth came out pretty smoothly. Just needed some localized anesthetic, and I pretty much had a nap while it was going on.
^That is why I NEVER want to have sedatives or any more anaesthetic than the minimum needed for an operation to work. The prospect of memory loss is far worse than the prospect of pain. I also refused anaesthetic and sedative for my second colonoscopy even though the medical staff pushed these hard (none was offered for the first, at a different place . . . Where that was one of only a few things that they did right).
Hmm, I have many, many hours of root canals, extractions, and other dental stuff in my Swiss cheese memories. I don't really need more. I guess if it was a situation where I didn't know or trust the people involved, I would feel differently, but I totally trust my oral surgeon to do the right thing. He put a ti plate in my jaw, wired it, and has done probably half a dozen extraction on me. I do feel lucky in that respect, as I have had people I didn't know doing extractions, and I'm not sure I would be comfortable being in a highly altered state in those circumstances. [I once went in for an extraction, and there was a very young, and dare I say attractive, young woman who got me set up for the extraction. I was shocked when she picked up the pliers and began working on the tooth. I was glad I was awake, because I could tell she was having some trouble, and I was able to encourage her and everything worked out well in the end.]
UnArcaneElection, why would you want to remember unpleasant memories of the tooth pulling variety?
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I can't speak for UAE, but being deprived of memory deliberately by another person is a violation of my innermost being. I find it offensive and rather horrifying.
^Exactly. If I have some pain and other unpleasant sensations, yes, it's unpleasant, but once I've made it through, I'VE MADE IT THROUGH, and I don't have a piece of my memories missing, and I don't have highly elevated risk (read just about guaranteed risk) of missing memories other than the ones that the operators were offering to block.
Besides, since I'm going to go to Hell or worse anyway, I might as well at least get to know my way around . . . .
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You're deprived of 8 hours of memory just about every day.
As someone that remembers way more of that procedure than they should (see above) ... take the damned drugs.
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You will note I qualified "deprived of memory" with "deliberately by another person". If you ignore parts of a statement, you're not really replying to/refuting the statement.
I went through a surgery with a local anesthetic and was surprised that I couldn't remember it. When I asked why, the anesthesiologist told me about amnesic drugs that they use routinely at the end of procedures done under local so patients don't remember the discomfort during the procedure. These were not disclosed in advance, nor was permission granted to use them. They have to tell you every little possible outcome of the surgery, but not that they're going to wipe your memory. I find this violating and horrifying. In subsequent surgeries, I have requested they omit the amnesic, and they have done so. So yes, I remember hurting during surgery, I remember having teeth chiseled out of my jaw, and I just don't care. Those are my memories and it's my choice to keep them.
You're welcome to take amnesics. They are not for me.
You will note I qualified "deprived of memory" with "deliberately by another person". If you ignore parts of a statement, you're not really replying to/refuting the statement.
If you're talking about one thing (in this case, inducing amnesia on its own) , when you could be talking about something else (the amnesia that's a part of general anesthetic) there's no way for people to know that. I've never heard of the former being done.
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I'm talking about twilight anesthesia, in which drugs are given to deliberately prevent the formation of new memories during medical procedures. Pretty handy for practitioners, isn't it? And yes, it's deliberate. I have requested they skip the Versed, and I remember those procedures. This totally creeps me out. Call me paranoid.
I'm talking about twilight anesthesia, in which drugs are given to deliberately prevent the formation of new memories during medical procedures.
Thats multipurpose. It isn't JUST for inducing the amnesia. being on the heavy side of sleep kills the pain while it's happening. I know this because I have a tendency to pop awake on operating tables.
"Mr Bignorsewolf, do you know where you are?
"I'm haveing a sesimoid bone removed from the interphalangeal joint of the great right halux."
"... .... .... ok we need some more anesthetic over here"
later that same opperation
Pops awake. Makes up up signal with thumb. Nurse "yeah he needs some more..." pause... pause more up signal... more up signal... Feel it kick in. Make ok sign. Pass out.
Different surgery
Hop on table. Grab the arm rest. Shake shake shake
"What are you doing?
"Seeing whats strong enough to pull on when I pop awake
"Don't worry about it, you'll be fine.
"Surgery starts. pass out for a few minutes. Come awake. Doctor starts taping my arm down.
"I don't think thats going to hold.
Doc "Don't worry! Its silk. Mongols used to use it to stop arrows.
me: "well not so much stop the arrows as let the silk wind around the barbs so they could pull it out...
Turns out he was right about the silk. he was wrong about the table. Bent that sucker right up. And back down on the way out for them :)
Watch? How did you watch it? Or you mean watching the dentist sticking a bunch of tools in your mouth?
I meant seeing the dentist move various tools into my mouth, culminating with a dental pliers/clamp thing that was used to wrest the tooth lose from my jaw. Seeing someone insert tools that they proceed to use to tear a tooth from your mouth looks like it ought to be painful to me. :P
I've had two teeth extracted recently, one a month ago and the other two days ago. It's surreal to watch something that looks exceedingly painful but feel nothing. It's almost dissociative.
I haven't really had swelling or pain from either though. My biggest concern is figuring out what I won't be able to eat anymore with a molar less on each side.
From my experience, you can still feel a lot of what the oral surgeon is doing in the area around your mouth, and dear god, the sounds! There is nothing quite like the drilling and sound of teeth cracking.
This time I got the IV sedative, and I found that to be VERY strange. I recall him explaining what was going on with the first injection or two, then the next thing I know, he is giving me instructions for changing the gauze. The surgery took about an hour and a half, but I don't remember any part of it. It is especially odd because on some level, I think I was awake, and suspect the memories are there, but just can't find them. For example, for several days after the extractions, I thought I needed to make an appointment for having the stitches removed. Then I found an appointment card in my pocket, and it triggered the memory of talking to the receptionist before I left the office. Weird.A couple less molars shouldn't really affect you at all once the gums heal. Right now, I'm down several teeth on both sides, and I can still eat everything except the supper chewy stuff like raw carrots or tough meat.
I felt more of it the first time, when they had to section the molar and work each root out separately. I felt that jerking sensation particularly, and actually had a phantom pulling feeling that night.
The second one, I couldn't feel anything, which is strange because it seemed more brutal visually.
Good to know about the eating part, that's my only major concern.
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I'm talking about twilight anesthesia, in which drugs are given to deliberately prevent the formation of new memories during medical procedures.Thats multipurpose. It isn't JUST for inducing the amnesia. being on the heavy side of sleep kills the pain while it's happening.
Yes, that's true. I never said it's solely for amnesia. What I'm saying is that there are other substances that don't cause amnesia that they will use upon request, so you can remember. They default to amnesics without informing us. This bothers me.
Anxiolytics can also induce long-term memory problems. Best to avoid those things.
Unfortunately, medical practice in the United States seems to have almost a religious fervor that all pain and unpleasant memories must be prevented, no matter what the cost (and now that cost includes an opioid abuse epidemic -- back in the 1990's when this fervor was really catching on, I could have told you something like this would happen). I have heard that this is less of a factor in other technologically advanced countries . . . .
Hey, my life is WAY better with those opiods than without.
Pain really does suck. Besides the obvious of "it hurts" it greatly reduces someone's mobility and ability to move something or move in general, which is at least as bad for your long term survival as addiction.
]Yes, that's true. I never said it's solely for amnesia. What I'm saying is that there are other substances that don't cause amnesia that they will use upon request, so you can remember. They default to amnesics without informing us. This bothers me.
What kills pain without inducing amnesia? Pretty much anything that futzes with your brain can induce amnesia, including alchohol.
IF the Dentist who performed the operation on you could not give you enough advice, I think he or she needs to be reported for malpractise.
{. . .}
I also suspect the opioid abuse epidemic has far more to do with marketing than with any kind of "religious fervor" about pain. The late '90s saw the change in law to allow direct advertising of pharmaceuticals to consumers. Also saw the introduction of OxyContin and the pretty unscrupulous campaign that took it to the #1 pain killer position in just a few years.
I was using "religious fervor" as a metaphor, but based upon what I heard about medical practice recommendations being handed out to doctors in the 1990s, I'd say it is a pretty good metaphor. This is not at all mutually exclusive with unscrupulous marketing . . . .
- Drugs affect everyone differently.
- Sedating/anesthetizing is a serious procedure, and should ideally be done by professionals you trust*.
- Painkillers should be distributed by medical necessity, not political spin, or marketing.
I was very happy my oral surgeon proscribed a little oxy, but I had to request it rather then ibuprofen or advil or whatever. I generally don't take painkillers, mostly because I believe pain is one of the ways your body communicates it's needs to the brain. However, if pain and anxiety about pain are preventing you from improving your health or your life, it isn't doing you any good. For example, while recovering from surgery, I had a lot of pain and discomfort that prevented me from sleeping. I feel like the lack of sleep did more harm then any effects or side affects of painkillers I was taking at the time.
When it comes to stuff that REALLY alters your brain functioning, I think it is an important to realize that our thoughts and perceptions, are personal, malleable, and perishable. We should have the humility to realize that are thoughts are closer to spiderwebs then brick s$+@houses, and not take them so seriously.
EDIT: * My first experiences with medical sedation were at a hospital in Brooklyn, and that was a little more sketchy then in my oral surgeons chair. But that is another story.
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This is why I refuse Versed. But I had surgery today and the anesthesiologist was fine with my refusal of the Versed. Of course, I don't freak out in the OR, either, which helps.
Now on percoset, which I am taking because this sumb%*%~ hurts!
Whoa! Benzos! Use only in an absolute emergency, lest addiction occur.
This is why I refuse Versed. But I had surgery today and the anesthesiologist was fine with my refusal of the Versed. Of course, I don't freak out in the OR, either, which helps.
Now on percoset, which I am taking because this sumb@*$@ hurts!
Good find -- this is pretty much what I suspected. But too bad the site doesn't mention the option of just not having anaesthetic for colonoscopy. Done it 2 times with no problem other than discomfort during the procedure and for a short while afterwards. If something isn't needed for a procedure to work (or at least to improve the chances of it working), better not to have it.
Of course, I seem to be an aberration. I experience LESS pain when I can see a needle going into me, because the entry is validated. Back when I was a kid, medical professionals did exactly the wrong thing by telling me to look away from an entering needle and trying to hide what they were doing. According to them, looking away somehow diminishes the pain, or the awareness of it, or something like that -- never made sense to me.