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Just got back from seeing it.

Overall I would rate it an...Okay. There is nothing terribly egregious about the movie, but a few hours later there isn't much that sticks in my brain as terribly amazing.

If your into comic book movies (or just really bored), its worth the matinee ticket. Or if you feel like waiting, I suspect the Director's cut will be far superior.

General spoilery thought follow.

Movie plot spoiler:

On the plus side:

I thought almost all the cast did a great job, although some folks had almost nothing to work with. Margot Robbie is a GREAT Harley, and Will Smith does a good job with Deadshot (I know this was a concern for many).

On a related note: the characters also have pretty good chemistry with one another. Now that the movie has established everyone, I think a sequel that lets them build on that would be pretty great

Cons:

I didn't really care much about Jared Leto's joker. His character feels shoe-horned in and doesn't serve a lot of purpose. I also don't feel like we ever got a sense of his criminal insane genius. He mostly comes off more as a thug than anything else. Granted, some of this is it's really hard to fill the shoes of the past Jokers, and some of it is design choices for the character.

In addition this movie feels very choppy and put together in part by a committee. Music often feels tacked and scenes strung together a bit haphazardly. In addition the movie wastes time repeating basically the same scenes multiple times. I am sure a LOT of this was studio meddling..especially the music. (B vs S also had complaints of disjointed scenes, also almost certainly thanks to exec edits).

There is basically two movies here: The first third is an intro and backstory to most of the team; than we get to the actual mission. Those intros mostly feel like tacked on exposition as is. It also means that there is practically no time to even set up the mission: This really weakens the enchantress as a villain.

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The issue with so much time being spent on intros and backstories is because Suicide Squad works much better when the villains have been on screen in other movies first, captured, and then the SS movie can just start without any introductions needed.


JoelF847 wrote:
The issue with so much time being spent on intros and backstories is because Suicide Squad works much better when the villains have been on screen in other movies first, captured, and then the SS movie can just start without any introductions needed.

That is an issue with a C-list property like this. There are a lot of characters and they are all pretty much unknown. Joker and Harley are really the only ones that are a blip on the average person's radar...

Even Comic book fans don't recognize all the characters. Diablo and enchantress are extreme unknowns... and if I DO recognize them a bit... they are obviously very different from the Comic versions I've seen.

Villains are tricky that way. They don't get as many appearances in things... and when they do, it's usually to get punched in the face by the hero. Their individual backstories, motivations, secret identities... they are often skipped in a lot of their appearances as villains. Or change drastically between appearances.

I was very surprised they even bothered with this property. It doesn't scream 'major motion picture'. It seemed like it would work better in a tv series like Arrow, where you can bring back all the villains he's fought in earlier seasons... then it would in a full movie with unknowns.

That said... I think people put too much emphasis on character development. Some characters don't need it. Some groups work better focusing on group dynamic then they do individual character growth... Some are just there to get killed.

I remember Amazing Spider-man 2 getting complaints that Rhino was sharing a movie with Electro... but really, Rhino's been around forever, and never really been an A-list villain. Showing up for petty crime, getting his butt kicked, hauled off to jail... is pretty much the perfect amount of Rhino for a show.

Suicide Squad looks a lot like 'The Losers' to me... A comic book squad of mercenaries... and after watching that show, I really know VERY little about any of the individuals... but I love it as a group. More of a true N counterpoint to the NG A-team...


Yeah Suicide Squad is hard to set up, in that most of the characters are c-list; if you wanted to set them up before hand, you would need multiple movies with other superheroes (and DC wants to spend zero time at all on setting those up rather than just going straight to the team movie).

Outside Harley and Joker I don't think any of the villains can be used in as the major antagonist in a Batman/Flash/etc movie. So you would have to give them "rhino" esq opening sequences.

I still think it could have been a hell of a lot streamlined. though. GotG didn't feel the need to stop the movie for 5 minutes and give us the backstory via flashback for each of the Guardians.


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I was very surprised they even bothered with this property. It doesn't scream 'major motion picture'. It seemed like it would work better in a tv series like Arrow, where you can bring back all the villains he's fought in earlier seasons... then it would in a full movie with unknowns.

It worked very well in Arrow, as a matter of fact.

Until they killed off Deadshot just so the audiences wouldn't be "confused" when THIS movie came out.


I liked it. The movie was decidedly not awful.

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Just saw it. I liked it quite a bit, and the bad reviews can go bite me. (Then again, just to be clear, I'm that one weirdo who liked Green Lantern better than any of Nolan's Batfilms, so I'm a sample size of one.)


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Saw it tonight. It was good. Fun....not as good as Marvel movies but at least DC is stepping up their game...


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Set wrote:

Just saw it. I liked it quite a bit, and the bad reviews can go bite me. (Then again, just to be clear, I'm that one weirdo who liked Green Lantern better than any of Nolan's Batfilms, so I'm a sample size of one.)

Say what?


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Saw it and liked it. Better than several of the MCU, though not as good as the best of the MCU.
It had its flaws but it got enough right to be a thoroughly enjoyable experience. The absolute best part was Amanda Waller, who was scary, scarily competent and perfectly horrible while doing her very dirty job.
Harely was amazing, and Deadshot wasn't as Will Smith-y as I'd feared (though there was still way too much Smith and not enough DS, especially not enough with the mask). Tons of little tidbits for the fans like the classic Harley suit. The plot was fine, though the mission twist was pointless and didn't really make sense. Some annoying slow-mo finale and it made the SS a bit too sympathetic for being baddies, but on the whole fun and entertaining.

I never pay attention to reviews before I watch a movie (with two exceptions, one of which is dead) and rarely after. So often I disagree with them so they have virtually no impact on whether I will see a movie or not. Afterwards it is sometimes interesting to see what others have said. I got the feeling people liked it. The theater was packed to capacity when I saw it, the snatches of conversations I heard around me afterwards indicated people enjoyed it.


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I kinda wish the Suicide Squad movie had just been a live action version of Batman: Assault on Arkham.

That's a damn good Suicide Squad story.


There was no post credit scene right? I couldn't hang around.

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John Kretzer wrote:
There was no post credit scene right? I couldn't hang around.

There was mid-credit scene, nothing after all the credits.

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I thought it was OK. Better than I expected, and had some stuff I really loved, but it also had some real rough edges.

Harley, Deadshot, Waller, and Diablo were great, and Enchantress started out super creepy (that scene where she transforms in the briefing room was dynamite).

However, I thought Enchantress got a lot less interesting in the second half of the movie. Boomerang and Croc were also just kind of around, and didn't really have much to do (well, Croc got a job at the end, but that felt super contrived to me).

I also thought the action was pretty lackluster overall. The mooks were like something out of power rangers--fake looking and toothless--and the fights felt more like excuses for the team to pose or look cool than actual combat. A lot of it seemed to be shooting at guys off screen.

Also, they had a big pile of red shirt army guys along for reasons beyond my comprehension. It's like "hey, think this squad of soldiers with assault rifles will be enough to handle this op? Naw, better get some lady with a baseball bat to back them up" I mean, isn't the whole point of Suicide Squad that you send them into places where you can't or won't send regular soldiers?

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
it made the SS a bit too sympathetic for being baddies, but on the whole fun and entertaining.

I found it interesting that Waller was smart enough to understand exactly how some of them became 'villains,' like Croc. "He was born looking like a monster. People treated him like a monster. Eventually he became a monster." And then she straight up used him anyway. Capable of using the tool of empathy, but utterly unaffected by it.

It's neat how the film shows different sorts of 'bad-guy' and doesn't lump them all into one niche as crazyevil mustachio-twirlers, or innately treacherous. (Although the team has one of each of those as well, although opinions will likely vary as to which ones...)

Some see themselves as atoning, others as coldly mercenary just getting by in an ugly world, yet others, as Harley quips, 'own that ****' and embrace it.

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Fun Fact: It opened better than the holy grail Deadpool.

I'm hoping we can get around to see it on Tuesday or Wednesday nights.

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archmagi1 wrote:

Fun Fact: It opened better than the holy grail Deadpool.

I'm hoping we can get around to see it on Tuesday or Wednesday nights.

Um, Deadpool has a hard R rating.


Rosgakori wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:
There was no post credit scene right? I couldn't hang around.
There was mid-credit scene, nothing after all the credits.

What was the scene? Please.


Apparently a lot of Joker scenes were cut, which actually makes me pretty sad. I really liked Leto's take on it. He's not a psychotic anarchist like Ledger's was. I'd actually say he's closer to Nicholson, though still very much his own thing. He's more like a mob boss that just happens to be completely insane.

I also have to admit, as much as I love the comic/animated series dynamic to Joker and Harley's relationship, it was really nice to see a different take on that whole situation, where he genuinely did seem to care about her in his own twisted way, and would seemingly do anything for her. I liked finally seeing a version of Harley who is loved as much as she loves her puddin'.


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John Kretzer wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:
There was no post credit scene right? I couldn't hang around.
There was mid-credit scene, nothing after all the credits.
What was the scene? Please.

Spoiler:
Waller negotiates with Bruce Wayne to use his resources to shield Argus (and the government as a whole I guess) from the backlash from the events of the film, in exchange for handing over information they've gathered on metahumans. She also comments that he should stop working nights in a rather pointed manner, suggesting that she knows about him being Batman.
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Tinkergoth wrote:

Apparently a lot of Joker scenes were cut, which actually makes me pretty sad. I really liked Leto's take on it. He's not a psychotic anarchist like Ledger's was. I'd actually say he's closer to Nicholson, though still very much his own thing. He's more like a mob boss that just happens to be completely insane.

I also have to admit, as much as I love the comic/animated series dynamic to Joker and Harley's relationship, it was really nice to see a different take on that whole situation, where he genuinely did seem to care about her in his own twisted way, and would seemingly do anything for her. I liked finally seeing a version of Harley who is loved as much as she loves her puddin'.

Glad to see someone else liking this version. He seemed like he was on the edge whole time, I really got the feeling that you really can't predict what he does next. Especially in that flashback. Before this I was hardcore fan of not having the Joker in the next Batman movie- but now I kinda want that. To see the whole "Jared Leto Joker" experience.

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Tinkergoth wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:
Rosgakori wrote:
John Kretzer wrote:
There was no post credit scene right? I couldn't hang around.
There was mid-credit scene, nothing after all the credits.
What was the scene? Please.
** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:
And then he tells her to stop what she's doing or he and his 'friends' will make her.
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He and his... Super friends?

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I don't listen to critics or reviewers, I just watch it and give my own. That way I can say it is bad truthfully as I've spent money to see it.


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Nenkota,

Yeah but I don't spend my money of movies muchly unless I'm SURE it won't go to waste.

Based on everything I've seen (critics not withstanding) I'll pay money to see it. Just not like an evening showing.

Or wait for it on Netflix.


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Nenkota,

Yeah but I don't spend my money of movies muchly unless I'm SURE it won't go to waste.

Based on everything I've seen (critics not withstanding) I'll pay money to see it. Just not like an evening showing.

Or wait for it on Netflix.

THIS. EXACTLY THIS.


Shin,

So if you pay for it, I'll go. Or maybe I'll get a friend like Rysky to pay for three of us. ;)


I saw it over the weekend. Much better than the reviews would indicate, but nothing spectacular. I'm glad I paid $5.

Spoiler:
Batman was awesome.
When/where/WHY did the Enchantress learn Kung-fu? :P


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She's 6000 years old, she's had plenty of time to pick up a few things.


Bjorn is right, I'm sure being that old she had time to learn self-defense.

I mean hell, Doctor Strange knows martial arts! :)


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Well, I saw it.

The good: Performances were never worse than mid-tier (and the shakier performances were the ones the script didn't give much to wok with) ranging to brilliant. Special shout-outs to Viola Davis, Margot Robbie, and Will Smith.

The bad: Ohhhhhh lordy. The plot was tissue paper, and the film was evidently edited with a chainsaw as characters express thoughts and feelings with almost zero justification. The Joker could (and should) have been cut from the movie almost entirely and made zero difference. Ditto for Katana.

It's a long way from the worst movie I've seen this year, but it's equally far from the top of the heap. It desperately needed to be tightened up- less cutting away to what these people were doing in their solo careers and more about why they bond during this "fight or die" scenario.

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The bad: Ohhhhhh lordy. The plot was tissue paper, and the film was evidently edited with a chainsaw as characters express thoughts and feelings with almost zero justification. The Joker could (and should) have been cut from the movie almost entirely and made zero difference. Ditto for Katana.

I was very disappointed with how little of Katana we saw. Too much time spent with the Joker, IMO, who was better than I expected, but belonged in a different movie that didn't already have so many characters to deal with. Also too much Batman, who didn't appear all that much, but felt shoehorned in as a stunt-casting for his fans, rather than necessary to advance the story. Killer Croc could have used a little more screentime, and Diablo, for me, was a favorite, since he had a surprising development, and a real super-power. Margot Robbie stole the show, with her Harlequin. I was amazed, since I'm not a Harlequin fan, and didn't expect much.

But the plot, yikes. Things just sort of happened. It wasn't significantly worse than some of the plot holes in Avengers, but it wasn't a good enough movie wrapped around the plotholes to make it into a doughnut, so delicious that you kind of eat around and ignore the giant hole in the middle.

Overall, I liked the movie, more so than most other DC movies, and it's miles away from the 'worst' superhero/comicbook movie (hello Steel and Howard the Duck and Catwoman!), but it's not Deadpool, either.

Still, I hope it does okay at the box office, since I'd rather see more like this from DC, with colorful (in both outfit and personality) characters than the overly serious slave-to-tone stuff they've been putting out in recent years.

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The coin flip beat Suicide Squad last night and we watched Bad Moms instead. /me recommends Bad Moms.


I just saw Suicide Squad, it has it's flaws, but I really enjoyed it.


arch,

Bad Moms? Seriously? I'm not sure I can condone the idea of Mila Kunis in comedy that doesn't have Seth Green or Seth McFarland.

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Cole Deschain wrote:

Well, I saw it.

The good: Performances were never worse than mid-tier (and the shakier performances were the ones the script didn't give much to wok with) ranging to brilliant. Special shout-outs to Viola Davis, Margot Robbie, and Will Smith.

The bad: Ohhhhhh lordy. The plot was tissue paper, and the film was evidently edited with a chainsaw as characters express thoughts and feelings with almost zero justification. The Joker could (and should) have been cut from the movie almost entirely and made zero difference. Ditto for Katana.

It's a long way from the worst movie I've seen this year, but it's equally far from the top of the heap. It desperately needed to be tightened up- less cutting away to what these people were doing in their solo careers and more about why they bond during this "fight or die" scenario.

Yeah, I mostly enjoyed the movie. However, the plot made me want to hit my head against the floor at times.


Amanda Waller and El Diablo felt like they had been transplanted in from a different franchise. They were superbly handled, had nuance and motivations that were complex and fully realized. Really, I'd have happily watched a movie that was just two hours of Waller being Diablo's handler for a Suicide Squad of one. Waller in particular was stand-out. In a movie full of monsters, she's the scariest person in the room every time she's on screen.

Honestly, I have no idea how those two were even in the same film as Captain Boomerang, who as near as I can tell, the writers just forgot about part way though writing the script. He never says or does anything of consequence, and the only even vaguely interesting thing about him (why the heck he's carrying a stuffed pink unicorn into a combat zone?) isn't ever resolved.

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Set wrote:

Just saw it. I liked it quite a bit, and the bad reviews can go bite me. (Then again, just to be clear, I'm that one weirdo who liked Green Lantern better than any of Nolan's Batfilms, so I'm a sample size of one.)

Say what?

Say whaaat?

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Set wrote:

Just saw it. I liked it quite a bit, and the bad reviews can go bite me. (Then again, just to be clear, I'm that one weirdo who liked Green Lantern better than any of Nolan's Batfilms, so I'm a sample size of one.)

Say what?
Say whaaat?

'Tis true. There are movies I can rewatch and enjoy, popcorn or no popcorn, and Green Lantern is one of them. I was never a huge Hal Jordan fan, so I guess I didn't have any axes to grind about them 'getting him wrong' (since he was portrayed pretty much identically to the Geoff Johns version of today, an irreverent, unlikable and only occasionally competent frat-boy/jock/douche, and nothing at all like the fearless and uber-competent Hal Jordan of my childhood, and I'd long since accepted that todays Hal Jordan is not the one I remember). The CGI effects were good. Some of the other Green Lanterns, particularly Sinestro, whom I found even more compelling than the one in the comics, were excellent, and the Lanterns I never cared much for, finding them a little too 'silly' (like Ch'p and Kilowog) were either used sparingly or not at all.

Parallax wasn't really any worse than in the comics, so I didn't even mind that character.

But the Nolan Bat-films just bored the crap out of me. I couldn't rewatch them. I tried to rewatch Man of Steel, and it also was pretty deadly dull, although I could watch Faora tear through those soldiers in Smallville on repeat about twenty times. (Followed by watching the Captain America vs. Batroc Ze Leepair fight in Winter Soldier twenty times, or the part in the beginning of Avengers where Pepper and Tony are bantering and Coulson shows up.) :)

And that's my criteria for movies. Do I ever want to see it again, or was once (more than) enough? Even better, can I watch again every year or so and enjoy it all over again, like Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool? (Or Labyrinth or Soapdish or Clue or A Fish Called Wanda, for non-superhero fare.)

I already am looking forward to seeing Suicide Squad again when it comes out on DVD/Blueray/Netflix, so that's a point in it's favor. I'm not sure if it's going to become one of my regular go-to movies (some of the flashy animated intro stuff might wear thin on me), but we'll see.


I successfully avoid reading all critics, reviews and opinion on the movie...

So here are my still fresh, unadulterated thoughts on SS:

It felt like a Power Rangers' movie.
The PG-13 rating really, really hurt this movie. After the first few minutes, there was no real tension. It was very obvious that everyone would end up happy.

My thoughts:
Here we have a band of criminal sociopaths being forced to work together under threat of having their heads blown up... They were gathered specifically for their abilities and loose code of morals.

And yet... Not one of them does anything bad after their introduction scene. They don't kill anyone (conveniently, they are fighting mindless "zombies"). They don't betray or abandon each other (one of them does, actually, but not only the professional assasin refuses to kill her, she's also instantly forgiven by each and every one of the hardened criminals. Apparently, after a few hours together, they are "a family"). They don't even attack the ones who imprisoned them. Even Killer Croc acts heroically and honorably! They don't have to sacrifice anything... Everyone gets a happy ending! Except Boomerang, but he barely appears in the movie anyway.

The characters:

Amanda Waller is awesome! El Diablo is ok... Everyone else ranges from mediocre to forgettable to disappointing. Even Harley's "quirkiness" grew dull in time. Her jokes become more and more predictable as the movie goes on.

The Joker was very disappointing. I hated the new Joker design when I first saw it, but in time, I grew to accept and even like it... But it seems my gut reaction was right. We have a Joker who never jokes. Who doesn't play tricks... There's nothing particularly interesting about him. Jared Letto's Joker is just a pimp with green hair and bad taste for tattoos. Other than that, he isn't really any different from your usual pimp/gangster villain.

And then, there's the plot...

It is pitiful. Plot holes don't bother me much if they aren't obvious enough for me to notice them during my first viewing... This ain't the case with this movie.

Notice how both the villain (which seemed interesting at first, but became extremely dull once she made her villainous turn) and their plan are stopped by... Explosions. So... What they are telling me is that no one in the pentagon thought about exploding the freaking building where everything is going on?

Relatively minor things...

Waller says Enchantress "can turn normal people into soldiers who can take a headshot and keep on fighting". No, she can turn people into dumb creatures that can still be beaten by a non-powered woman swinging a baseball bat.

Joker and Harley jump into a container from 20 ft... Then stand on it as if the container were only a few feet deep. How did they not break their freaking necks, then?

Deadshot spends the whole movie talking about how all he wants is to live with his daughter... And then his "greatest wisg" turns out to be... killing batman?

Harley literally falls in love with Joker because of how uniqe and extraordinary he (supposedly) is. And her "greatest with" is to lead a normal life with a normal guy?

Seriously, is Warner drunk? They have 2 movies showing Batman and Superman killing people and/or not even caring about collateral damage and civilian casualties... And now we have a movie where a professional assassin refuses a contract to kill someone (who just abandoned him and his team) in exchange for everything he wants because... He spent a few hours with the target?

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Final score: 4/10

Not a terrible movie... But certainly not a good one. Wait for the DVD/Blu-Ray release.

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If you like the characters and/or the premise of the film, watch Batman: Assault on Arkham. It's really good! And don't be fooled by the title... While Batman does show up, he's a secondary characters. The Suicide Squad being the real stars!

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Thomas Seitz wrote:

Bad Moms? Seriously? I'm not sure I can condone the idea of Mila Kunis in comedy that doesn't have Seth Green or Seth McFarland.

Questionable attempts at humor aside, don't come down on Mila Kunis! She's an excellent actress and is very good in comedies. In fact, she's great in one of my favorite comedies, Forgetting Sarah Marshall


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Set wrote:

Just saw it. I liked it quite a bit, and the bad reviews can go bite me. (Then again, just to be clear, I'm that one weirdo who liked Green Lantern better than any of Nolan's Batfilms, so I'm a sample size of one.)

Say what?
Say whaaat?

'Tis true. There are movies I can rewatch and enjoy, popcorn or no popcorn, and Green Lantern is one of them. I was never a huge Hal Jordan fan, so I guess I didn't have any axes to grind about them 'getting him wrong' (since he was portrayed pretty much identically to the Geoff Johns version of today, an irreverent, unlikable and only occasionally competent frat-boy/jock/douche, and nothing at all like the fearless and uber-competent Hal Jordan of my childhood, and I'd long since accepted that todays Hal Jordan is not the one I remember). The CGI effects were good. Some of the other Green Lanterns, particularly Sinestro, whom I found even more compelling than the one in the comics, were excellent, and the Lanterns I never cared much for, finding them a little too 'silly' (like Ch'p and Kilowog) were either used sparingly or not at all.

Parallax wasn't really any worse than in the comics, so I didn't even mind that character.

But the Nolan Bat-films just bored the crap out of me. I couldn't rewatch them. I tried to rewatch Man of Steel, and it also was pretty deadly dull, although I could watch Faora tear through those soldiers in Smallville on repeat about twenty times. (Followed by watching the Captain America vs. Batroc Ze Leepair fight in Winter Soldier twenty times, or the part in the beginning of Avengers where Pepper and Tony are bantering and Coulson shows up.) :)

And that's my criteria for movies. Do I ever want to see it again, or was once (more than) enough? Even better, can I watch again every year or so and enjoy it all over again, like Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy or Deadpool? (Or Labyrinth or Soapdish or Clue or A Fish Called...

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I cant watch anything with Kunis in it. All I can picture is Meg Griffin and it ruins the film.


Pan wrote:
I cant watch anything with Kunis in it. All I can picture is Meg Griffin and it ruins the film.

That's exactly my problem too. Although it's more like every time I see her I keep remembering Jackie from That 70s Show.

Much the same way I feel about every member of that cast except maybe Kurtwood Smith. I've seen his face enough times before that it doesn't bother me.

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Went to a noon showing today. I enjoyed it, despite the enormous plot holes and some not great performances.

Waller was awesome. I thought the Captain Boomerang character was well done - just the right amount of douchebag-ness. Harley was ok. I pretty much despise the character, but this made me at least tolerate her somewhat.

The main storyline was, in my mind, way bigger than what you'd typically see for the Squad. I don't recall them doing too much save the world crap. And Enchantress' plan was kind of weak.

Loved the little nod they threw in for Ostrander. I didn't catch if they threw in nods to any of the other writers/artists.

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Doomed Hero wrote:

Amanda Waller and El Diablo felt like they had been transplanted in from a different franchise. They were superbly handled, had nuance and motivations that were complex and fully realized. Really, I'd have happily watched a movie that was just two hours of Waller being Diablo's handler for a Suicide Squad of one. Waller in particular was stand-out. In a movie full of monsters, she's the scariest person in the room every time she's on screen.

Honestly, I have no idea how those two were even in the same film as Captain Boomerang, who as near as I can tell, the writers just forgot about part way though writing the script. He never says or does anything of consequence, and the only even vaguely interesting thing about him (why the heck he's carrying a stuffed pink unicorn into a combat zone?) isn't ever resolved.

I was totally expecting the unicorn to pay off in his Enchantress-wish-fantasy-hallucination, but he didn't even get one.


Enchantress to me would be better served in a Justice League Dark fashion rather than a Suicide Squad mission.

I mean if it involved metahumans, why not Kobra or some other dark org, like the League of Shadows.


I actually half expected Basilisk to be the villains, but I thought they were going for a somewhat New 52 version of it, so I figured they'd be the obvious choice. That turned out to be wrong, but they'd have still been a solid choice. Their entire MO is about using metahumans to reach their goals.


Watched it. I give it a solid meh.

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