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We can add ADD/OCD to his list of manias

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It was in the second viewing that I saw Harley Quinn is reading a Harlequin novel and the Joker has a purple Lamborghini.

Other fun stuff includes Katana's Soul Blade, the raw food in Killer Croc's cell, possibly Anvil in the subway scene, possibly Kryptonian connection.


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Not that ADD and OCD are the same thing.

Anyway, I'm sold. I just hope that Leto can pull off a good Joker. I'm not expecting (or would want) Nicholson, Ledger or Hamill, I just want a charismatic and psychotic murderer who has fun. A new interpretation and presentation is fine by me.


Ugh. I hated the still shots of Joker and Harley and in motion they're even worse. I just really don't like the direction they went with the characters for this.


Wow, I didn't think they could make me want to see their movie less, but they somehow managed


Yup. And I believe there is a new Flash for the movie version instead of the one from the show.


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I think it looks awesome, can't wait!


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Nice to see DC trying to shake themselves free of the "no jokes, no quips, we have GRAVITAS!" crud they used to mire themselves in.


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Nice to see DC trying to shake themselves free of the "no jokes, no quips, we have GRAVITAS!" crud they used to mire themselves in.

I would help if they turned on a light.

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I still really really hate the look of Jared Leto's Marilyn Manson Joker.

On the other hand, this trailer was well done, looks interesting, and I like what I've seen of Harley Quinn and Killer Croc.

Like everything DC, the movie looks like it's going to be worse than whats on CW, but this looks better than Dawn of Justice at least.


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The new Joker is actually growing on me, i think i might go on a My So Called Life bender beforehand, just for fun. :-)


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Nice to see DC trying to shake themselves free of the "no jokes, no quips, we have GRAVITAS!" crud they used to mire themselves in.

I do agree with this. I'm happy to see them finally trying to have a little fun, I just can't get excited about this version of Joker and Harley. After spending so much time in the DCAU, seeing a Joker that comes across more Juggalo than Clown Prince of Crime just irks me.


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We're not going to ever get Hamill's Joker on the big screen again. I'm not wild about Leto's Joker, but I'm not going to let that stop me from giving the movie a try.

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Cole Deschain wrote:
We're not going to ever get Hamill's Joker on the big screen again.

True, but I think we're pretty close with Hamill's Trickster, who i'm 90% sure we will see again on Flash.

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We're not going to ever get Hamill's Joker on the big screen again.

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I hadn't planned to see this movie at all, but I will now, if it plays at my nearby cinema and I notice in time.

I had sworn off superhero movies, until there's a superheroine movie, but a team film, with multiple female characters, might be as close as there will be for a few years.

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Wish they would have given more time to Enchantress and Katana.
Don't know how I feel about Enchantress being possessed by a witch instead of being one.

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While this looks far more entertaining than the other DC movies so far, I still can't care less about it. Using the suicide squad to introduce villains into the movie universe is just dumb. The whole appeal is seeing them as villains first, and caught and imprisoned, and THEN seeing the SS in action. The conflicting desire to use them as expendable but capable agents, while also squirming at the possibility of them regaining their freedom and having the superheroes having to deal with them again is the appeal.

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Wish they would have given more time to Enchantress and Katana.

Don't know how I feel about Enchantress being possessed by a witch instead of being one.

June Moore (if it is her in the movie) is possessed, Enchantress is the possessing witch.


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I'm not that interested in the DC universe movies.

I'm interested in seeing Suicide Squad after this trailer. It looks like it might be a brutal movie filled with black humor.

I don't read DC comics any more not since New52 started but it's not hard for me to look at the TV shows existing on one earth and the movies existing on an alternate earth.

That makes total sense to me and kinda throws me when people have issues with the actors and the characters being different between the movies and the shows. I think that it allows them to tell one kind of story with the character in one medium and a different type of story with the character in another. I think that way is more interesting especially for the DC universe.


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Scythia wrote:

I hadn't planned to see this movie at all, but I will now, if it plays at my nearby cinema and I notice in time.

I had sworn off superhero movies, until there's a superheroine movie, but a team film, with multiple female characters, might be as close as there will be for a few years.

One year, actually. Wonder Woman in 2017!

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Scythia wrote:

I hadn't planned to see this movie at all, but I will now, if it plays at my nearby cinema and I notice in time.

I had sworn off superhero movies, until there's a superheroine movie, but a team film, with multiple female characters, might be as close as there will be for a few years.

One year, actually. Wonder Woman in 2017!

I believe there is also gonna be a follow up to Ant-man with Wasp that looks pretty good, but I don't know if it's gonna be primarily the Wasp or what...

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I don't read DC comics any more not since New52 started but it's not hard for me to look at the TV shows existing on one earth and the movies existing on an alternate earth.

That makes total sense to me and kinda throws me when people have issues with the actors and the characters being different between the movies and the shows. I think that it allows them to tell one kind of story with the character in one medium and a different type of story with the character in another. I think that way is more interesting especially for the DC universe.

I don't have a problem with them using different actors but I don't like when they totally change a character. I feel like some consistency is warranted. I feel like every time I have ever seen Deadshot he was a white dude so seeing Wil Smith in the role makes me think that either this is some obligatory nod to political correctness or that DC has gone the other way and is tossing in color just to appease people or garner attention. It almost seems more racist to see movies shoehorning black or any other ethnicity of actors into a role that has been portrayed in comic books and other formats as a different one.

For the record I also wouldn't like if Wonder Woman was suddenly a Blonde, or if Superman was suddenly Asian, or if Spiderman was suddenly a red-head. It just takes away my ability to immerse myself in the story when there is such a major inconsistency with basic source material.

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Oh man that was amazing! Captain Boomerang continues to be my favorite character to wait for in this film. I laughed out loud when he is cut from his duffel bag and he just WAILS on the next person. And also at the part when he drink beer behind car or something.

Oh, August, come already!


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Eh, Deadshot's ethnicity (or, indeed, almost anything else about his background) has never actually mattered as a plot point, so it doesn't bother me.

He began as a C-list Batman enemy, after all, a trick shot gimmick guy. He didn't even get his mask/suit/forearm gun until his second appearance.


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ShinHakkaider wrote:


I don't read DC comics any more not since New52 started but it's not hard for me to look at the TV shows existing on one earth and the movies existing on an alternate earth.

That makes total sense to me and kinda throws me when people have issues with the actors and the characters being different between the movies and the shows. I think that it allows them to tell one kind of story with the character in one medium and a different type of story with the character in another. I think that way is more interesting especially for the DC universe.

I don't have a problem with them using different actors but I don't like when they totally change a character. I feel like some consistency is warranted. I feel like every time I have ever seen Deadshot he was a white dude so seeing Wil Smith in the role makes me think that either this is some obligatory nod to political correctness or that DC has gone the other way and is tossing in color just to appease people or garner attention. It almost seems more racist to see movies shoehorning black or any other ethnicity of actors into a role that has been portrayed in comic books and other formats as a different one.

For the record I also wouldn't like if Wonder Woman was suddenly a Blonde, or if Superman was suddenly Asian, or if Spiderman was suddenly a red-head. It just takes away my ability to immerse myself in the story when there is such a major inconsistency with basic source material.

From what I have read recasting Will Smith as Deadshot was due to casting Margo Robbie as Harley Quinn. The 2 actors supposedly have good on screen chemistry together, and since those 2 characters are pretty much the leads in the comic - changes were made based on that.


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Fake Healer wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:


I don't read DC comics any more not since New52 started but it's not hard for me to look at the TV shows existing on one earth and the movies existing on an alternate earth.

That makes total sense to me and kinda throws me when people have issues with the actors and the characters being different between the movies and the shows. I think that it allows them to tell one kind of story with the character in one medium and a different type of story with the character in another. I think that way is more interesting especially for the DC universe.

I don't have a problem with them using different actors but I don't like when they totally change a character. I feel like some consistency is warranted. I feel like every time I have ever seen Deadshot he was a white dude so seeing Wil Smith in the role makes me think that either this is some obligatory nod to political correctness or that DC has gone the other way and is tossing in color just to appease people or garner attention. It almost seems more racist to see movies shoehorning black or any other ethnicity of actors into a role that has been portrayed in comic books and other formats as a different one.

For the record I also wouldn't like if Wonder Woman was suddenly a Blonde, or if Superman was suddenly Asian, or if Spiderman was suddenly a red-head. It just takes away my ability to immerse myself in the story when there is such a major inconsistency with basic source material.

Okay. I'm gonna just agree to disagree and walk away from this one.


Let's take a character who had AGENCY in becoming who they are, and basically take that all away from them.


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The movies (DC, Marvel, other) I consider to be their own universes and don't get bent out of shape when they don't mirror the comics. Heck, the current comics don't mirror the comics anymore.


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Fake Healer wrote:
ShinHakkaider wrote:


I don't read DC comics any more not since New52 started but it's not hard for me to look at the TV shows existing on one earth and the movies existing on an alternate earth.

That makes total sense to me and kinda throws me when people have issues with the actors and the characters being different between the movies and the shows. I think that it allows them to tell one kind of story with the character in one medium and a different type of story with the character in another. I think that way is more interesting especially for the DC universe.

I don't have a problem with them using different actors but I don't like when they totally change a character. I feel like some consistency is warranted. I feel like every time I have ever seen Deadshot he was a white dude so seeing Wil Smith in the role makes me think that either this is some obligatory nod to political correctness or that DC has gone the other way and is tossing in color just to appease people or garner attention. It almost seems more racist to see movies shoehorning black or any other ethnicity of actors into a role that has been portrayed in comic books and other formats as a different one.

For the record I also wouldn't like if Wonder Woman was suddenly a Blonde, or if Superman was suddenly Asian, or if Spiderman was suddenly a red-head. It just takes away my ability to immerse myself in the story when there is such a major inconsistency with basic source material.
Okay. I'm gonna just agree to disagree and walk away from this one.

wise.


I'm actually pretty excited about the movie thus far, and I think Will Smith looks great in his role.

Maybe it's just that I'm not that invested into Deadshot (though I've watched the DC animated TV shows...I think all of them...from Superfriends to Young Justice and even the whiny Teen Titans cartoon that I really can't stand on TV these days)...

But I can't say skin tone has any effect on him...thus far it seems Smith is looking to make it an interesting character in the movie.

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Harley looks interesting, as does this version of the Enchantress (which is pretty wildly different from the big-hatted comic book version!) and, of course, Katana, who looks to be more true to her comic book roots (complete with Soultaker katana) than what we've seen before on Arrow. I don't know the fire-guy, but I like that he's there, just because I like the idea of at least some of the people in this team of comic-book characters having actual super-powers (to make it feel more 'comic book' than 'he shoots people, she's crazy,' which I can get in a non-comic-book movie).

I was never particularly invested in any of the interpretations of the Joker I've seen on-screen, so I've got no beef with what little I've seen of Leto's version.

Similarly, I thought the previous version of Deadshot I've seen on TV have been pretty awful (was there a Deadshot on Smallville, too? Some sort of cowboy? I might be repressing some trauma there...), so it's not like Will Smith is going to make any of my sacred cows into hamburger. I suppose that's damning with faint praise, to admit that Will Smith as Deadshot doesn't bug me, because I'm not a Deadshot fan anyway... At least this means he won't be Catman, assuming that character appears in a sequel someday. :)

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New trailer y'all!

And no, it does not spoil or show anything we don't want to know. It's still awesome. And the song that they picked is awesome. And I can't wait for August!


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F#$*ing awesome!


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New trailer y'all!

And no, it does not spoil or show anything we don't want to know. It's still awesome. And the song that they picked is awesome. And I can't wait for August!

Ballroom Blitz! Damn. Can't remember the last time I heard that. And now it's stuck in my head.


Finally a DC trailer that doesn't suck.


You mean to say the last SS trailer sucked?


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They've all been awesome!


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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
You mean to say the last SS trailer sucked?

My response immediately after watching the last one

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Wow, I didn't think they could make me want to see their movie less, but they somehow managed


speaking as someone who hates Suicide Squad... villain movies... gritty comics and pretty much everything this movie is supposedly about...

That trailer was pretty interesting... The last one was good too, but this moved it up to a rental for me.

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It has reached watch it whenever it comes to Netflix levels for me, but only because I want to see what Smith does with Deadshot.


I expect SS to be... decent, maybe even good. I'm hoping I'll at least not regret spending my money on the theater ticket, like I did with BvS (which managed to disappoint despite my low expectations).


I'm going to wait and see what the initial reaction is. If I hear that's it's decent, I'll probably go see it in the theater (Wife is a bit of a Quinn fan). If I hear that it is getting the hate of BvS, I'll avoid it.

Much like X-Men: Apocalypse, I'm staying cautiously optimistic about it.

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Saw the movie Wednesday.

Good stuff!

First half a strong 4 out of five stars.

Second half maybe a 3.5 out of five stars.

Not a fan of the big end game otherwise a good movie.

Three things.

Colonel Rick Flagg has a 3 handicap in golf.

Darnell is OUT.

Amanda Waller is one nasty scary b i t c h.


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Will Smith as Deadshot and Leto's Joker design still lose points from me, but proper Amanda Waller instead of the incompetent, skinny impostor on Arrow gets them all back.

Might go see it this weekend. The trailers and such have made it look like a fun movie, and using Ballroom Blitz is a good way to hit me.


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How is Jared Leto as Joker, Baron.

I will admit, I like the few snippets of him in the trailers.

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How is Jared Leto as Joker, Baron.

I will admit, I like the few snippets of him in the trailers.

They were all great. Well maybe not the gal playing Katana, she was meh. You could have had me in the costume and not tell the difference.

Will Smith I liked as Deadshot. I wished they made him do a little more tricky shots but he was good.

Jared Leto was good and did his own take on the Joker, which is good considering mimicking those that came before would not work here.

He took inspiration from the Batman comic "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth", which portrayed the Joker as a transcendent, unsettling and seductive person. Jared Leto also cites gospel music, shamans and Mexican cartels as an influence on the character.

Points in Jared Leto's favor -

He shaved his eyebrows in order to play the role to make him look more deranged and psychotic.

To try and find the perfect Joker laugh, Jared Leto tried publicly different laughs in New York City and Toronto to see which ones made people the most uncomfortable.

Jared Leto got so immersed in playing The Joker and he wouldn't break out of character on set even when he wasn't filming. He even sent his fellow cast members "Joker-like" presents: a rat to Margot Robbie and bullets to Will Smith, a soiled Playboy magazine to Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje and a dead hog, anal beads and used condoms for the whole crew. Scott Eastwood, commented that Leto frightened him at times with his behavior.

The Joker's various clothes in the film are based on the clothes he wore in the Batman comics -

The tuxedo and white gloves comes from "Death in the Family" (1988)

The white coat and purple shirt comes from "Dark Knight Returns" (1986)

The Joker's brown waistcoat comes from "Joker" (2008).

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