Are their other hidden "small sizes" like Aasimar?

[Azullius Koujou]

I was wondering if there are other races that can be small sized but are not small by standard?

[Cwethan]

Skinwalkers and Tieflings spring to mind, though I can't find that sidebar on pfsrd for Tieflings, so I could be incorrect there.

[HyperMissingno]

I imagine there's a small Undine or Ifrit running around, but only if you houserule it. Changelings too.

[pauljathome]

Kitsune with the Realistic Likeness feat can assume the form of children (small humans).

[Qaianna]

Cwethan wrote:

Skinwalkers and Tieflings spring to mind, though I can't find that sidebar on pfsrd for Tieflings, so I could be incorrect there.

What's the source for that sidebar for aasimars in the first place? I didn't find it in the PRD..

[The Archive]

Qaianna wrote:

Cwethan wrote:

Skinwalkers and Tieflings spring to mind, though I can't find that sidebar on pfsrd for Tieflings, so I could be incorrect there.

What's the source for that sidebar for aasimars in the first place? I didn't find it in the PRD..

It's not Core material. It's from Blood of Angels.

[Axial]

There's the reverse: a Medium-sized goblin variant.

[lemeres]

Elves. and the small ones replace their bonus to perception for a bonus to craft (toys) and profession (shoemaker)

[Casual Viking]

pauljathome wrote:

Kitsune with the Realistic Likeness feat can assume the form of children (small humans).

Straight up +1 size bonus? Nice. Probably not intentional, but seems legit.

[Snowblind]

Casual Viking wrote:

pauljathome wrote:

Kitsune with the Realistic Likeness feat can assume the form of children (small humans).

Straight up +1 size bonus? Nice. Probably not intentional, but seems legit.

Oh my...

I need to remember this. It's hilarious. I like the image of running around as a small child in a dungeon just for the extra plusses.

[Matthew Downie]

All of them, if they're young enough.

[Shiroi]

There are rules for creating young PC, though they have more penalties than I like. It isn't just "be sized small", it more "be physically incompetent, small, and have annoying restrictions".

Or you could houserule some nonsense around and just say that any race can be sized small, if they take dwarfism (the genetic form, not the race) or young age. It's not all that broken, usually classes that benefit most from small characters benefit well from the racial bonuses and abilities of size small races.

If you really needed to impose an extra neg 2 to str for being smaller than you should normally be, I guess it's reasonable if they're cheesing hard on the build.

[Pecan Sandie Duncan]

lemeres wrote:

Elves. and the small ones replace their bonus to perception for a bonus to craft (toys) and profession (shoemaker)

Or Profession (dentistry).

[master_marshmallow]

I believe any of the plane touched races have this option.

[caribet]

The Archive wrote:

Qaianna wrote:

Cwethan wrote:

Skinwalkers and Tieflings spring to mind, though I can't find that sidebar on pfsrd for Tieflings, so I could be incorrect there.

What's the source for that sidebar for aasimars in the first place? I didn't find it in the PRD..

It's not Core material. It's from Blood of Angels.

Both Blood of Angels and Blood of Fiends have a side-bar on page 4, "Non-Human Aasimar" or "Non-Human Tieflings", which specifically allows Aasimar and Tieflings from humanoids other than Human, stating that the difference is "purely a matter of size". They gain any of the bonuses or penalties related to that size, but gain no racial bonuses except those of the aasimar/tiefling; beyond size, their humanoid ancestry is purely cosmetic.

You could be an Ogre-kin Tiefling, but you don't gain the Str/Con bonuses that come with Enlarge spells, just the -1 to AC and to Hit, and the ability to wield Large weapons without penalty.

[Azullius Koujou]

Thanks for the answers everyone