Any easy way for a Paladin to gain proficiency with his deity's favored weapon?


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Have a god that has a simple/martial weapon for it's favored weapon? Be a race that gets your favored weapon for free?

What weapon are you trying to get?


It would make sense to me if you gained proficiency for free, but by the rules, take the feat, Half-Elf Ancestral arms, I think Half-Orc has a similar trait now. Some Ioun Stones, maybe.


1 lvl dip in warpreist?????


Ask nicely?
Maybe the DM will allow some flexibility? Trade one prof for another, forex.


Urumi.


Exotic Weapon Proficiency Feat.

There are some ways to reduce non-prof with favored class bonuses, but I don't think for paladin.

Half-Elf Racial.

Some archetypes give you domains, I think one of the domains grants prof with weapon, not good on cleric stuff.

Scarab Sages

Are you playing in Golarion? Because the only Golarion deity with the Urumi as a favored weapon is Nalinivati, and she is TN and not appropriate for a Paladin.


Paladins can worship neutral deities.


Need to be within one step though. TN to LG doesn't work.

Sovereign Court

Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

Paladins can worship LN and NG deities, yes. But not TN.

Scarab Sages

In your GM house rules it, sure. Otherwise, you need to be within one alignment step of your deity.


Problem is Paladins are not tied to one Deity in terms of source of their power, unlike Clerics.
One archetype, Sacred Servant, does go more in that direction, and nets you a Domain.
War Domain grants a bonus feat which can be used for Weapon Proficiency, but only rnds/day. (probably better uses for it than prof.)
Here is the fluff text for that archetype which shows it's difference vs. standard Paladisn:

Quote:

Paladins as a general rule, venerate the gods of good and purity, but some take this a step further, dedicating themselves to a specific deity and furthering the cause of the faith. These sacred servants are rewarded for their devotion with additional spells and powerful allies.

A sacred servant must select one deity to worship. This deity’s alignment must be lawful good, lawful neutral, or neutral good.

I would say you are better off going Warpriest, which does have single-god flavor (and Favored Weapon).


can =/= appropriate

OT think most of them have been covered that I know, but to expand:
Cleric/Warpriest/Inquisitor dip (sanctified slayer, maybe).
Human for the bonus feat (or military tradition - replaces the bonus feat with 2 exotic/martial weapon proficiencies)
1/2 elf (I couldn't find a half orc equivalent to ancestral arms)


Yeah I don't see how a paladin gets a deity that has a Urumi in PFS. It's easy and simple to use multiple ways to get your proficiency in the weapon but you just plain can't get it as a favored weapon on a paladin.

Can I assume you need a weapon as a favored weaponfor some ability/feat?


If you are going full paladin and not multiclassing, I cannot think of any way to get urumi proficiency without a feat. It's an exotic weapon and not a racial weapon. Sorry bud.


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Uh...

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1,500 GP and your problem is solved.

Lantern Lodge

Worship Iomedae or Torag or Sarenrae or Shelyn or Ragathiel or Abadar or Dammerich or Andoletta or Arshea or...


Dominus Megadeus wrote:
Need to be within one step though. TN to LG doesn't work.

Wrong.

KingOfAnything wrote:
Paladins can worship LN and NG deities, yes. But not TN.

Wrong.

Imbicatus wrote:
In your GM house rules it, sure. Otherwise, you need to be within one alignment step of your deity.

Wrong.

Paladins do not have to worship deities within one step of lawful good. That is simply not a rule that exists. Clerics, Inquisitors, and Warpriests must worship a deity of an alignment within one step of theirs, but there is no such restriction for paladins, just like there isn't one for druids, hunters, oracles, rangers, or shamans. For paladins, evil deities are prohibited by the restriction on associates, but true neutral, chaotic good, and even chaotic neutral deities are allowed.

Imbicatus, the FAQ you quoted is a Pathfinder Society houserule, and does not apply to the rules of Pathfinder when played in any other context. Barring houserules to the contrary, a paladin is perfectly capable of worshiping true neutral, chaotic good, and chaotic neutral deities.


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Avoron wrote:
Dominus Megadeus wrote:
Need to be within one step though. TN to LG doesn't work.

Wrong.

KingOfAnything wrote:
Paladins can worship LN and NG deities, yes. But not TN.

Wrong.

Imbicatus wrote:
In your GM house rules it, sure. Otherwise, you need to be within one alignment step of your deity.

Wrong.

Paladins do not have to worship deities within one step of lawful good. That is simply not a rule that exists. Clerics, Inquisitors, and Warpriests must worship a deity of an alignment within one step of theirs, but there is no such restriction for paladins, just like there isn't one for druids, hunters, oracles, rangers, or shamans. For paladins, evil deities are prohibited by the restriction on associates, but true neutral, chaotic good, and even chaotic neutral deities are allowed.

Imbicatus, the FAQ you quoted is a Pathfinder Society houserule, and does not apply to the rules of Pathfinder when played in any other context. Barring houserules to the contrary, a paladin is perfectly capable of worshiping true neutral, chaotic good, and chaotic neutral deities.

According to that logic, what's stopping people from playing a Paladin follower of CE Rovagug as long as you don't associate with other followers of Rovagug? Seems kind of counter intuitive.


Worshipping an evil deity probably counts as association with said evil deity.


Anzyr wrote:

Uh...

Here

1,500 GP and your problem is solved.

Works perfectly.

By the way, using this on an Ascetic Style Iroran Paladin, so worshipping Nalinivati could fit my code of conduct.


Iroran paladin that worships Nalinivati. Huh.


As much as I would love to see the justification of a paladin worshipping a CN deity, not the point of the thread.

You're going to need a feat or that item linked. I hope we helped.


Avoron wrote:


Imbicatus, the FAQ you quoted is a Pathfinder Society houserule, and does not apply to the rules of Pathfinder when played in any other context. Barring houserules to the contrary, a paladin is perfectly capable of worshiping true neutral, chaotic good, and chaotic neutral deities.

Chaotic Good, and especially Chaotic Neutral is pushing it though, and a home DM would be within rights and reason to forbid it as an alignment violation.


Most would, I imagine. Definitely a good idea to ask your GM about it first, to avoid potential issues.

Grand Lodge

be a gnome and craft your weapon (you need alternate racial trait)


CampinCarl9127 wrote:

As much as I would love to see the justification of a paladin worshipping a CN deity, not the point of the thread.

You're going to need a feat or that item linked. I hope we helped.

It is actually the people saying Paladins need to be within a step of their deity that need justification, not the other way around


Tengu with the racial grate to be proficient with all swords.

Silver Crusade

I fought *so hard* to not use a katana. So. Very. Hard. But... it's lighter and easier and at the same time carries a far greater weight knowing that it can much more easily murder a defenseless opponent.

If there were a way to use a quarterstaff as a dedicated paladin without losing the sensible shield I use to protect myself, I'd much prefer that, but Grandmother often notes 'we can't always get what we want' and 'life is hard, sometimes'.


Exotic Weapon Proficiency.
Honestly, the feat exists for a reason, you won't get an easier way to pick up proficiency with a given weapon.
Any method you use to get proficiency will require you to give up something, be it feat, level, or racial ability.

Scarab Sages

Andrietta Ebonfeather wrote:


If there were a way to use a quarterstaff as a dedicated paladin without losing the sensible shield I use to protect myself, I'd much prefer that, but Grandmother often notes 'we can't always get what we want' and 'life is hard, sometimes'.

There is a way to use a quarterstaff and shield as a paladin.

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