Combat vs Dex check question


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In an effort to teach myself the finer points, rules, flow of the game, I took to watching a YouTube series on S&S by Stephan Cleaves online.

I was watching him play through 004: Sunken Treasure and I'm stymied on how he came up with a base roll for a character and was hoping someone here may point out what I'm missing.

He has Jirelle at the Beach location and encounters a Water Elemental (Combat 12).

Jirelle has Strength of D6, and Dex D10.

For his combat check, he revealed a Cutlass for 1D6, recharge an Eyepatch for 1D4, a Blessing of the Gods to add a die, but he said that was a D10. So he rolled 2D10 + 1D6 + 1D4...He rolled a 20, defeated.

I don't understand where the base D10 came from, if Jirelle's base strength is D6. Can you use Dex as opposed to Strength on a monster whose only check is 'Combat'?

He did the same later on against a Constrictor Snake (Combat 11)....used a base D10 and throughout the rest of the scenario.

Apologies ahead of time if this is an obvious question/answer, but I thought you only use Strength/Melee in these type of combats unless the Monster/encounter shows a different check.


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For this check, he was using one of Jirelle's powers. It states that "For your check that has or is against a card that has the Finesse trait, you gain the skill Melee: Dexterity + 2". The Cutlass has the Finesse trait, so he was able to use his Dexterity die for a melee check using that weapon, making his base die a d10.

Edit: Also, to answer one of your questions that isn't really applicable to this situation, an unarmed combat check can only be made with Strength or Melee. There are many cards that can change that, though. Bows, daggers, and other weapons let you use Dex or Ranged for combat checks. With a cutlass, though, you're stuck with Strength or Melee.


Kumarei wrote:
For this check, he was using one of Jirelle's powers. It states that "For your check that has or is against a card that has the Finesse trait, you gain the skill Melee: Dexterity + 2". The Cutlass has the Finesse trait, so he was able to use his Dexterity die for a melee check using that weapon, making his base die a d10.

Thank you so much. I thought it had something to do with the Cutlass card, but I wasn't grasping the Power part. The Water Elemental and Snake did not have Finesse so I knew that wasn't it. Then I was looking at her inherent traits and didn't see Finesse either.

I guess the key was "For your check that HAS or is against..." I wasn't making the connection that the Cutlass having Finesse trait added +2 to Dex.

I appreciate the explanation....I've been short changing myself my last game. :(


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Yep, when you use a card that has the text "For your combat check, [...]", all of the traits of that card are automatically added to your check. This only applies to the base combat card, though, and not to other cards you play to enhance your check.


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More specifically, any card you play to determine the skill you are using adds the traits of the card to the check. The vast majority of those cards say "For your combat check..." but there are few that aren't for combat checks. (Mattock and Arcane Robes for example, but neither of those are in S&S).

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