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Karkadann. It's pretty awesome, but I'd like an ordinary, animal companion compatible oryx as well.


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Wannabe Demon Lord wrote:
Karkadann. It's pretty awesome, but I'd like an ordinary, animal companion compatible oryx as well.

That's it. The horn counts as magic and cold iron...nice.


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The Romani abominations look like a cross between Lovecraftian horrors and pokemon;)

Thanks for the info Wannabe Demon Lord.

Well the pokemon stuff has more to do with the style of the artist than the actual folklore :P


I am always down for more variant types of unicorns.


Dragon78 wrote:
I am always down for more variant types of unicorns.

Spare for when I wish for them, so you can scrap Abada, Indrik, Shadhavar, Emela Ntouka, Camahueto, Nian and Sin-You from your list.


You're acting like a jerk for no reason again, Sincubus.


Sukotyro

Kind of mundane, but I'm thinking of interpreting this as a monstrous babirusa.


So would it be a made up animal or a magical beast?


Either, though preferably a Magical Beast.


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Adam Daigle wrote:

Well, there's some of that (I personally think that the Bestiary 5 Wishlist thread still has plenty of things to mine, and I fear that this thread is going to have 95% of what was mentioned in that thread and very few new things).

What I'm mainly talking about is how the Bestiary 5 wishlist thread got so clunky and hard to use because people were requesting the same things every few weeks (or months in some cases). Most of the time it was these huge lists and the lists would be repeated each time. I started trying to keep up with the Bestiary 5 Wishlist thread, but gave up after two pages.

To assist with this, I have my V wish list sheet which I have started updating to add VI wishes to, thinking about how Adam might appreciate it being formatted / used.

So what I have done -

If the request is only on Bestiary V Wish List thread, it is left in dark blue text with the source left as "V Wish List"

If the request is made here and is new, it is entered in a dark orange text with the source noted as "VI Wish List"

If a V Wish List is re-requested in this thread, I change it to dark orange and the source is noted as "V, VI Wish List"

So when I post the first release of this new updated sheet, you should be able to see old requests, repeated and new requests reasonably easily.

I hope it helps.


Hey Anthony, it's been awhile.


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Yeah, lots happened that knocked me for six (car dying, pc dying, major leak in kitchen, causing collapsing ceilings and some structural damage). Hopefully all sorted now and nothing else will happen for a bit. I'm back now.

Ok, let's see if I can get this Google Docs share link to work again... no - I can't yet - >.< - google.co.uk is not responding at the moment. I'll post it up later this evening (UK time, probably around 8pm - ish)

There are some changes to the sheet since the last bestiary thread: One important addition, near the right hand end is a new column for logging requests to reprint creatures found in Paizo soft-backs as part of a bestiary hardback.

NB : I will NOT put all the previously printed creatures in here, even if someone says "all of them". I would like it to be used to list those creatures everyone particularly wants reprinted in a bestiary, recognising we usually only get a handful chosen with each bestiary.

The idea is to show Paizo which ones out of those remaining we are most interested in.

I'm populating the big list in post #3 of this thread as there ARE some new items in there - I have done A through C so far in that big post, but it is enough for you all to see the updated sheet.

Look for the first release in around - ohhh, about 7.5 hours or so from now. (Might be quicker if the Google access gets restored)


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Here's the current sheet as promised.


Thanks for all the hard work Anthony, I would never have the patience or technical know how to do all this.


I admit I never cared about the Muldjewangk at all, but when the Crittercompendium made it like THIS it instantly became a wish of mine.

Really wanna see it that way, as a large merman monster or large humanoid sea horror.

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Looks good, Anthony. Thanks for the work you put in.


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Adam Daigle wrote:
Looks good, Anthony. Thanks for the work you put in.

No worries, I'm using it myself now for when I make proposals and do the odd freelance bit for 3pp - it allows me to ensure I don't do something you have already done!

I'm working through the APs I haven't yet covered and the remaining modules this weekend, and then I'm going to add the Bestiary 5 bits in, so you will soon see where all the creatures are up to for Paizo releases up to March 2016.


Also, in my very first post in a wish-topic on Paizo forums I wished for an evil dryad.

Enter the Scandinavian Askafroa. The most evil a Dryad can get.


Here is a list of fey from various Paizo softcover products(mostly APs) that are not in a hardcover bestiary.

Blodeuwedd
Larabay
Grimstalker
Baobhan Sith
Fey Animal(template)
Thin Man
Polevik
Biloko
Frosty Chiseler
Skin Stealer
White Rider
Red Rider
Black Rider
Dawn Piper
Tombstone Fairy
Winter Fey(template)
Poludnica
Skapraun
Mocking Fey
Boggart
Fear Eater
Calpina


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With the Vigilante and Ultimate Intrigue out, I'd like to see monsters related to that.

I've stated that I would like to see a Gemini, or a monster with 2 distinct bodies, but with one soul. A Vigilante with 2 bodies (social and vigilante), but with one soul would be great.

Same goes with other kinds of shapeshifters, creatures with possessing abilities like a body jumper, a judge-like creature to judge criminals, a fey with VERY deep pockets as a heister, a mob/troop template, a Zeitgeist (a fey as the urban embodiement; related to the spiritualist archetype) and finally, have more urban-themed creatures, not just something we could see in the wild.


I like a lot of those ideas JiCi.


Dream summoner. Like a superhero, but it appears only during the 8 hours it's summoner sleeps.


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Dream summoner. Like a superhero, but it appears only during the 8 hours it's summoner sleeps.

Sounds like tulpa from Bestiary 5 to me, just have it enter its creator's mind when they wake up and exit when they go to sleep.


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Updated sheet

Now includes entries for all Paizo modules released up to end of March 2016, and all AP's up to AP 102, Hell's Rebels 6 of 6, and finally the list of creatures in Bestiary 5 creature list have been married up to their requests or entered as appropriate.

Companions and Settings will be checked for creatures and any found added in the list over the next few weekends (there are a lot of those books >.<)

I'll go back to adding this lists requests into the sheet in the meantime.


Anthony Adam wrote:

Updated sheet

Now includes entries for all Paizo modules released up to end of March 2016, and all AP's up to AP 102, Hell's Rebels 6 of 6, and finally the list of creatures in Bestiary 5 creature list have been married up to their requests or entered as appropriate.

Companions and Settings will be checked for creatures and any found added in the list over the next few weekends (there are a lot of those books >.<)

I'll go back to adding this lists requests into the sheet in the meantime.

Is Sandworm under the listing for Worm?


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Goth Guru wrote:
Anthony Adam wrote:

Updated sheet

Now includes entries for all Paizo modules released up to end of March 2016, and all AP's up to AP 102, Hell's Rebels 6 of 6, and finally the list of creatures in Bestiary 5 creature list have been married up to their requests or entered as appropriate.

Companions and Settings will be checked for creatures and any found added in the list over the next few weekends (there are a lot of those books >.<)

I'll go back to adding this lists requests into the sheet in the meantime.

Is Sandworm under the listing for Worm?

If that's a new request in this list, I have only got to post 3 so far as post 3 is a huge list to work through. ;)

I'll recheck my Bestiary 5 in case it's a page I missed, I was getting tired by the end of my update stint.

The requests in this list get added during the working week with Paizo products added at weekends.


A good aligned super hero wannabe fey/spirit like creature that enters people drams to save them from nightmares and actually evil dream creatures would be interesting.

If anyone has seen the cartoon "Star vs the Forces of Evil", I would love a fey creature like the one Star turns into when she is going through "mewberty" would be awesome. The idea that a fey creature is harmless until it morphs for limited time and starts kidnapping people because it has gone girl/boy crazy because of puberty or mating season cycle would be cool.


Agrippa

Ok, this is one of my favorite new french mythology monsters ever.

Agrippa are living grimoire books!

So much awesome things can be done with possessed book monsters!

I gave the Agrippa this profile on my site:

In Mythika: Sometimes when a Poltergeist possesses a grimoire book a new creature will be created instead. The Poltergeist will be absorbed within its pages and the grimoire gains a life of its own. Now the Agrippa will try to absorb as many creatures into its pages as possible and it can summon duplicates of these imprisoned victims from its pages in battle. Many Agrippa grew more powerful with each creature they absorbed and some of them serve the most powerful of Warlocks, Sinlords and Horsemen, such powerful creatures are drawn towards these magical books and their dark summoning magic. When destroyed the Agrippa will release recently-absorbed creatures back into the world, but older victims will burn away with them. The more demons, monsters and other creatures they absorb the bigger they become, the biggest of them are as tall as a human being. There are also Agrippa that absorb spells into their pages instead of creatures, these are spellbooks and can use all the spells they have absorbed in battle. A warlock can control a Agrippa by winning from it in magic battle and then writhing its name in its pages with his/her own blood.


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Anthony Adam wrote:
Updated sheet

Now includes the whole of Page 1 of this request list - man there were some lists on that page... lol

Small request as I catch up - please dont bury the creature name being requested in a wall of text... if I can scan the posts and find the creature name easier, the faster I can catch up for everyone.

Cheers


Dragon78 wrote:

Here is a list of fey from various Paizo softcover products(mostly APs) that are not in a hardcover bestiary.

Blodeuwedd
Larabay
Grimstalker
Baobhan Sith
Fey Animal(template)
Thin Man
Polevik
Biloko
Frosty Chiseler
Skin Stealer
White Rider
Red Rider
Black Rider
Dawn Piper
Tombstone Fairy
Winter Fey(template)
Poludnica
Skapraun
Mocking Fey
Boggart
Fear Eater
Calpina

When did we end up with a Baobhan Sith?


I would like to see some good aligned creatures that possess human(and other) hosts to do good deeds.

If I remember correctly the Baobhan Sith, Tombstone Fairy, and Grimstalker were actually reprints from the Tome of Horrors(or a similar book).


Goth Guru wrote:

Sort of like . The Gold Bug

Here's 2D6 gold coins in a pile on the floor.
DM: 2 of the coins are actually parasitic beetles that can sleep for years looking just like coins. As soon as someone starts carrying them they will start sucking blood. The victim will have 1 constant damage from each beetle they suffer from. Their bite also causes gold fever. The sufferer must make a DC18 will save to resist grabbing any gold they see. As the bugs reproduce, the DC goes up as does the fever.

The good people at Paizo are free to adapt it however they wish.

inspired by the Treasure Bugs from Dungeon Meshi?


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I want to see the Lords of the Nine(at least some of them). If I only get one I want it to be Mephistopheles.


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Anthony Adam wrote:
Anthony Adam wrote:
Updated sheet

Now includes the whole of Page 1 of this request list - man there were some lists on that page... lol

Small request as I catch up - please dont bury the creature name being requested in a wall of text... if I can scan the posts and find the creature name easier, the faster I can catch up for everyone.

Cheers

Pages 1 - 4 and half of Page 5 of this thread are now included in the sheet.

Since maintaining this list starting with Bestiary 5 Wish list, we have now requested 3,702 as yet "unfulfilled" wishes - some may be fulfilled by Bestiary 5 just under a different/variant name.

If you spot any duplicates of things that appear in more than one place, with one being better qualified than another, let me know via PM and I will fix it up for you.

I'm also toying with remove "copyright" requests - e.g. as Cubicle 7 have the Doctor Who licence, we aren't likely to see pathfinder Daleks, Cybermen, Weeping Angels, etc., from that TV show.

In fact, as a first stage, I will create another sheet tab "Under Copyright" and we can move such requests out of the main lists, so if you know which are copyrighted, PM me and I'll move them - if you know who has the copyright, please add that to your PM and I will note that on the second sheet too.

This way, Adam gets a cleaner list of possible requests to look through.


Hmmm... question to all: is there any type that deserves more creatures? I'm not talking about sub-categories, like demons and devils, but actual types, like animals, humanoids, vermins, etc.

That was mentionned above a few times, we could use more feys in a more widespread CR range. Same goes with oozes, which seem to have the least amount of entires since the first Bestiary.

In fact, did we even GET a category of oozes? Feys at least have gotten the Gremlins. BTW, no, "ooze", as a name, isn't a category, come on now.

Yeah, so after researching the index, Feys, Oozes and Plants have the least amounts of entries.


All catogories are pretty well formed.

Though I would like to see more.

Non-humanoid Fey
Non-humanoid Undead and non-humanoid spirit monsters
Non-humanoid demons and devils
Non-boring (Earth Elemental ect) Elementals
More Mythological Giants instead of House, Kitchen and Garden Giants.
More Mythological Dragons instead of the five we always get.
More oozes that kill in other ways that just acid.
More magical vermin
None-Fungus based plants


Nightterror wrote:
All catogories are pretty well formed.

I swear that I can count 2 to 3 more times the number of animals, outsiders, dragons, humanoids, monstruous humanoids, magical beasts, vermins, constructs, undead and aberrations than feys, oozes and plants.


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Anthony Adam wrote:


I'm also toying with remove "copyright" requests - e.g. as Cubicle 7 have the Doctor Who licence, we aren't likely to see pathfinder Daleks, Cybermen, Weeping Angels, etc., from that TV show.

In fact, as a first stage, I will create another sheet tab "Under Copyright" and we can move such requests out of the main lists, so if you know which are copyrighted, PM me and I'll move them - if you know who has the copyright, please add that to your PM and I will note that on the second sheet too.

This way, Adam gets a cleaner list of possible requests to look through.

I don't think people are LITERALLY demanding a dalek or cyberman, but rather monsters that take their inspiration from them. Think the Xenopterid, which is clearly based on the monsters from Mimic, but is not in fact a "Mimic". I suspect Adam and so get that. I mean if you want to be extra precise, you could always add a "inspired by" in front of the name or something, but I wouldn't remove the entry completely.

Hell, Weeping Angels already exist in Pathfinder, and are a variant gargoyle in Classic Horrors revisited. So clearly other Dr Who inspirations are possible.


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JiCi wrote:

Hmmm... question to all: is there any type that deserves more creatures? I'm not talking about sub-categories, like demons and devils, but actual types, like animals, humanoids, vermins, etc.

That was mentionned above a few times, we could use more feys in a more widespread CR range. Same goes with oozes, which seem to have the least amount of entires since the first Bestiary.

In fact, did we even GET a category of oozes? Feys at least have gotten the Gremlins. BTW, no, "ooze", as a name, isn't a category, come on now.

Yeah, so after researching the index, Feys, Oozes and Plants have the least amounts of entries.

I dunno...there seem to be a lot of fey as far as I can see, and Bestiary 5 added a lot of high level Fey. Might still be low on Fey appropriate for mid levels, but I haven't crunched any numbers on that.

Oozes I think are just hard to design. They are mostly blobs of goop, and there are only so many you can do that without resorting to "No this is totally different, hence why I think there are so many Color X or environmental variants.


A Bao A Qu the most notorious awesome ooze-like creature from mythology begs to be in Bestiary 6, really how can that creature still be missing.

The most original and cool ooze up to date.


I think there should be less oozes next time. I mean, honestly there just isn't a lot you can really do with a shapeless puddle of goop. Out of all the categories of monsters, oozes are the only one where all the new types come off as forced to me. I feel like because Ooze was set up as a type from day one, people feel compelled to come up with new ones when there isn't a lot more that can be done with the concept. I would have rather had them be aberrations.

I mean, the best thing I think could be done is have amorphous, but not completely shapeless, monsters made out of slime but with generally humanoid or animal-like shapes. I'd also like to see a "Slime Girl," like you see in a lot of monster girl stuff, but I understand that that may not fly.


Fey, Oozes, and Plants seem a lot lower then most creature types. Dragons are not nearly as numerous as Aberrations, Animals, Magical Beast, Outsiders, or Undead. Humanoids, Monstrous Humanoids, and Vermin are higher in number then Dragons but not by a lot.

Actually there is more you can do with oozes. We could have oozes from the positive energy plane, negative energy plane, dimension of time, dimension of dreams, astral, ethereal, elemental, and the outer planes. You could have oozes made of magic(or specific spells/effects), webs, aether, metal, darkness/shadow stuff, light, positive energy, negative energy, mental energy, spiritual energy, liquefied bones/calcium, flesh, force energy, hopes/dreams, and dust.


Dragon78 wrote:

Fey, Oozes, and Plants seem a lot lower then most creature types. Dragons are not nearly as numerous as Aberrations, Animals, Magical Beast, Outsiders, or Undead. Humanoids, Monstrous Humanoids, and Vermin are higher in number then Dragons but not by a lot.

Actually there is more you can do with oozes. We could have oozes from the positive energy plane, negative energy plane, dimension of time, dimension of dreams, astral, ethereal, elemental, and the outer planes. You could have oozes made of magic(or specific spells/effects), webs, aether, metal, darkness/shadow stuff, light, positive energy, negative energy, mental energy, spiritual energy, liquefied bones/calcium, flesh, force energy, hopes/dreams, and dust.

Sentient/Inteligent Ooze, etc...


With other words, you can turn the oozes in drakes, giants, trolls and zombies.

Just put a elemental or environment before them and you are cool.

I hope it doesn'work that cheap. I still want some mythological ooze-like monsters to be oozes in pathfinder.

A Bao A Qu (charisma draining intelligent ooze, heavenly blue colored and when drained much charisma it turns into a dragon-like ooze)

Black Tamanous (human possessing ooze, turning victims into cannibals)

Nurikabe (intelligent shapeshifter ooze that can turn solid as stone and turn into blocks of stone, walls and other objects.)

Ashi-Magari (invisible ooze, looks like a ooze anemone, it feeds on speed)

Dheeyabery (Flesh-like ooze that takes vaguely humanoid forms to lure prey close, much like in the Mimic Movie, but oozy)


Now that we having flying monkeys how about flying pigs.

Are there any winged cats from mythology?


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MMCJawa wrote:
Anthony Adam wrote:


I'm also toying with remove "copyright" requests - e.g. as Cubicle 7 have the Doctor Who licence, we aren't likely to see pathfinder Daleks, Cybermen, Weeping Angels, etc., from that TV show.

In fact, as a first stage, I will create another sheet tab "Under Copyright" and we can move such requests out of the main lists, so if you know which are copyrighted, PM me and I'll move them - if you know who has the copyright, please add that to your PM and I will note that on the second sheet too.

This way, Adam gets a cleaner list of possible requests to look through.

I don't think people are LITERALLY demanding a dalek or cyberman, but rather monsters that take their inspiration from them. Think the Xenopterid, which is clearly based on the monsters from Mimic, but is not in fact a "Mimic". I suspect Adam and so get that. I mean if you want to be extra precise, you could always add a "inspired by" in front of the name or something, but I wouldn't remove the entry completely.

Hell, Weeping Angels already exist in Pathfinder, and are a variant gargoyle in Classic Horrors revisited. So clearly other Dr Who inspirations are possible.

Exactly why I proposed keeping them to see what everyone thought of the idea, just on a separate page so that everyone knows those requests have to be very careful of copyright entanglements.


Keeping then separate makes sense to me.


Nothing specific but I'd like more high powered humanoid races that advance by class levels. They're fun to build characters around, good npcs and BBEGs and so on but most of the high powered races are very overtly monstrous, which sort of changes how you use them.

Munavri, Noble Drow and Duergar Tyrants are the only ones I can think of right now though.

On the flip side I'd like more monstrous/weird races that advance by class level with normalish stats so they're suitable for use as PCs and regular NPCs.


Trox, Kasatha, and deep gnomes are strong races as well.


13 demon skulls. If they swarm when they bring their new friend the paladin home, what would be it's stats? As a bunch of bones, would it be resistant to fire?

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