Is OWLBEAR a BEAR?


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If you could summon any type of bear with it, even descriptive, gay men looking for company would have a new class to be their champion.

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Cavall wrote:

If you could summon any type of bear with it, even descriptive, gay men looking for company would have a new class to be their champion.

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No, you're thinking of Mount.


I dunno, is a trouser snake a snake?


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Eh, I'd allow it. The stat blocks for an owlbear and a grizzly aren't appreciably different, and they're both listed as 4th-level options for Summon Nature's Ally. Besides, the ability in question just says "bears" - there's nothing restricting it to the animal type.


Bear is to Owlbear in the same way that Java is to Javascript.

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Starbuck_II wrote:

I say anything with Bear in its name is a bear.

This includes all NPCs named Bear.

Bear Gryll is really going to be surprised when he starts tobogganing again.


What if you magically separated the bear from the owl using a vorpal sword? Would the bottom half count as a bear? Do bears need heads to count as bears?


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Kazaan wrote:
Bear is to Owlbear in the same way that Java is to Javascript.

Javascript is a deranged genetic hybrid of java and scripts? Logic checks out!


Javascript is even worse than putting me in an owl mask.

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Please don't put me in an owl mask.


Chemlak wrote:

Agreed with the majority.

Just because a sword is long, it's not necessarily a long sword.

A dragonne is not a dragon.

Secure shelter is not a spell with "cure" in the name.

Uh...

A sword that is long is a long sword. Not a "longsword", but a long sword. A sword that is long is literally a long sword.

Secure shelter does have "cure" in the name, although it's not a cure spell. Cure spells heal people by (sl)d8+(cl) damage, or a number of people for a lesser amount. And secure shelter does not have "cure" as its own word, which is a key point.


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*blink*


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What about a ManBearPig? I think that is half man half bear and half pig.


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Irthos wrote:
Eh, I'd allow it. The stat blocks for an owlbear and a grizzly aren't appreciably different, and they're both listed as 4th-level options for Summon Nature's Ally. Besides, the ability in question just says "bears" - there's nothing restricting it to the animal type.

This was my thinking. Hell, I'd allow werebear if it was on the 4th-level list. Bear is bear. :P


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My Self wrote:
Chemlak wrote:

Agreed with the majority.

Just because a sword is long, it's not necessarily a long sword.

A dragonne is not a dragon.

Secure shelter is not a spell with "cure" in the name.

Uh...

A sword that is long is a long sword. Not a "longsword", but a long sword. A sword that is long is literally a long sword.

Secure shelter does have "cure" in the name, although it's not a cure spell. Cure spells heal people by (sl)d8+(cl) damage, or a number of people for a lesser amount. And secure shelter does not have "cure" as its own word, which is a key point.

I think you kind of missed the point.

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Short answer: No

Long answer: Totemic summons were meant for animals, not magical beasts. An owlbear is a magical beast.


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Where is that writ? Where does it say totemic summons are animal-only? The druid is channeling the ideal of "bear", not the ideal of "Ursidae". ;P


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He's got you there. Owlbears are, indisputably, the ideals of bears.


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Owlbears do not throw better parties, though.

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