Slayde77 |
In a game I'm running, one of my players is a level 1 gunslinger bolt ace and a levering 1 monk. He claims that while he is wielding his crossbows he still threatens adjacent squares as unarmed. This doesn't sound right to me. I see under monk where it says you can still prepend unarmed strikes while holding items. I guess what it comes down to is wielding and holding the same thing? Can you be both armed and unarmed at the same time?
Thanks
kinevon |
Agreed. It's one of the perks of being a monk, along with excellent saves, lawful alignment, and everyone calling you 'mad' for some reason. And there's many other ways to get a similar effect -- musket plus cestus, for one.
That probably won't work, without using a free action to let go of your musket.
Musket, bow, or two-handed weapon plus armor spikes, boot blades, barbazu (sp?) beard would all work, though.
Same reason why my two-handed weapon PCs tend to take IUS or have something that doesn't need hands to attack with available.
Darksol the Painbringer |
I'll echo everyone's statements here; the player can make Unarmed Strikes, even when they're using a Crossbow.
Here's why:
A monk's attacks may be with fist, elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may make unarmed strikes with his hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply his full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all his unarmed strikes.
Usually a monk's unarmed strikes deal lethal damage, but he can choose to deal nonlethal damage instead with no penalty on his attack roll. He has the same choice to deal lethal or nonlethal damage while grappling.
Thematically speaking, a Monk using one kick, or a kneejab, with a single leg, can certainly be done when their hands are occupied with a Crossbow. There is also no clause that states that they can use only their Unarmed Strike in a given attack sequence.
That being said, I would caution said player about using a Crossbow in Melee Combat, as that does provoke an Attack of Opportunity. (Not to mention reloading it also provokes.)
Darksol the Painbringer |
Qaianna wrote:Agreed. It's one of the perks of being a monk, along with excellent saves, lawful alignment, and everyone calling you 'mad' for some reason. And there's many other ways to get a similar effect -- musket plus cestus, for one.That probably won't work, without using a free action to let go of your musket.
Musket, bow,
or two-handed weapon plus armor spikes, boot blades, barbazu (sp?) beard would all work, though.Same reason why my two-handed weapon PCs tend to take IUS or have something that doesn't need hands to attack with available.
FTFY. You can't combine those anymore.
Relevant FAQ here
FiddlersGreen |
A musket with a bayonet mounted on top would do the trick, I think?
But yes, despite the clunky terminology, a monk is always 'armed' with his 'unarmed strikes' even if he is 'armed' with another weapon (like a ranged weapon) in his arms . Heck he is 'armed' even if you chop off his arms.
Monks are quite... 'handy'... that way. ;)
kinevon |
kinevon wrote:Qaianna wrote:Agreed. It's one of the perks of being a monk, along with excellent saves, lawful alignment, and everyone calling you 'mad' for some reason. And there's many other ways to get a similar effect -- musket plus cestus, for one.That probably won't work, without using a free action to let go of your musket.
Musket, bow, or two-handed weapon plus
armor spikes, boot blades, barbazu (sp?) beard would all work, though.Same reason why my two-handed weapon PCs tend to take IUS or have something that doesn't need hands to attack with available.
FTFY. You can't combine those anymore.
Relevant FAQ here
FTFY, although armor spikes should not need a hand, since I cannot conceive of any way doing, say, a hip bump, would need hands.
blackbloodtroll |
kinevon wrote:Qaianna wrote:Agreed. It's one of the perks of being a monk, along with excellent saves, lawful alignment, and everyone calling you 'mad' for some reason. And there's many other ways to get a similar effect -- musket plus cestus, for one.That probably won't work, without using a free action to let go of your musket.
Musket, bow,
or two-handed weapon plus armor spikes, boot blades, barbazu (sp?) beard would all work, though.Same reason why my two-handed weapon PCs tend to take IUS or have something that doesn't need hands to attack with available.
FTFY. You can't combine those anymore.
Relevant FAQ here
Yes. You totally can. Just not with Two-weapon fighting.