Tatan Fighter maths confusion


Rules Questions


Ok, so say i make a TF with the Giant-Blooded Trait(1/2 oversize penalties). does the math look like:
BAB+STR+Enchantment(-Oversize-"2-handed")/2
OR
BAB+STR+Enchantment-(Oversize/2)-"2-handed"?

Also could you by RAW use a Huge one-handed weapon as an equivalent to a large two-handed weapon?(Yes I'm looking at you Amiri with that bastard sword...)

Grand Lodge

I assume you mean Titan Fighter.

The Giant Weapon Wielder ability does not allow for anything larger, than a Larger Two-handed weapon.


I did indeed mean Titan Fighter, I was a little tired sorry.

Is it larger? By RAW it seems that a Huge light weapon is "equivalent" to a medium 2-handed weapon, you just take a -4 for it being 2 "sizes" to big...

Core Rulebook wrote:

Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.

The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at all.

Grand Lodge

You usually can't wield a Large Two-handed Weapon.

The Titan Fighter makes a specific exemption of this rule, with the Giant Weapon Wielder ability. It notes "two-handed melee weapons intended for creatures one size category larger than himself". This means, it's not about how you are currently treating it, but the size of the wielder it is intended for.

So, outside of that exemption, it's not possible.

You could find ways to increase your size, like Enlarge Person, and wield Huge Two-handed Weapons.


Ah, didn't think of that that way. thank you BBT.
But that still leaves the math part of my original post, is the extra -2 apart of oversize penalties or is that separate?

And would the TF "Incredible Heft" apply to it at all? It doesn't specify that the extra -2 is an oversize penalty, just imply that it is.

Grand Lodge

It seems to be able to eventually reduce it.

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