Adahn_Cielo |
Yeah, torment is at the top of the list. Play it, love it!
I still haven't got around to replay Baldur Gate 1&2, but the next I'd pick is Neverwinter Night 2 just to play Mask of the Betrayer: it's that good.
I've also liked the main campaign of NW2 more than most, but it's nothing to write home about: at the time, I quit it some missions before the final battle and just started Mask of the Betrayer. :P
Neverwinter nights 1 and 2 also have a number of cool fan-made mods, like Black Waters (super buggy, super cool) and a mod that redoes the whole Baldur Gate 1 (!) for NW2, and a slew of little modules like Elegia Eternum (awesome) and A Dance With Rogues (Best Rogue-tailored mod I've ever seen. Very Long. Very Cool. Very well done. Very grim. Also very, very NSFW. Like, more than you're thinking of right now while reading this.).
thejeff |
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Yeah, torment is at the top of the list. Play it, love it!
I still haven't got around to replay Baldur Gate 1&2, but the next I'd pick is Neverwinter Night 2 just to play Mask of the Betrayer: it's that good.
I've also liked the main campaign of NW2 more than most, but it's nothing to write home about: at the time, I quit it some missions before the final battle and just started Mask of the Betrayer. :PNeverwinter nights 1 and 2 also have a number of cool fan-made mods, like Black Waters (super buggy, super cool) and a mod that redoes the whole Baldur Gate 1 (!) for NW2, and a slew of little modules like Elegia Eternum (awesome) and A Dance With Rogues (Best Rogue-tailored mod I've ever seen. Very Long. Very Cool. Very well done. Very grim. Also very, very NSFW. Like, more than you're thinking of right now while reading this.).
Yeah. I'd vote for NWN 1 & 2, just for the mods. And yeah, A Dance with Rogues is even more NSFW than you're thinking after reading the warning. :)
I thought NWN had more and better fan content than NWN2, but I also spent more time with it, so I may just not have found most of the NWN2 stuff.
Adahn_Cielo |
Yeah, I remember that the first part of MotB, in the city before they send you
started a little slow, but I still loved it. I remember it definitely opened up in act II.
*In the barbarian lodge*
NPC: "I'm Ivan the Strong, and I greet you!"
PC: "I'm Inquisitive (PC name), and I want to ask you a question!"
(Going from memory and I don't remember the name of the guy, but I'm pretty sure it went like this)
knightnday |
Imbicatus wrote:Really? You're the first I've seen that liked ToEE, but perhaps I am just remembering early reviews when the game was really buggy.Temple of Elemental Evil, and get the Co8 modpack.
I like ToEE as well, especially after the work that the Circle of Eight put into it. They expanded the game and added higher level play, more quests and so on. It's like a brand new game. I tend to dust it off and play with it every few months or so.
Tacticslion |
My vote for both of the NWNs, especially 1 - not for the OC, but for the expansions, fan content, and similar support. Shadows of Undrentide was superior to the OC, and Hordes of the Underdark was far superior to both.
NWN 2's OC was... just too long. I don't like saying that, but it was. Too long, too slow, and too side-tracked. Mask of the Betrayer started slow but was great thereafter.
TarSpartan |
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Circle of 8 fixes a lot of ToEE'd problems, and the combat is the most tabletop accurate I've ever seen.
Thanks DM & knightnday! I remember being excited about this game when it came out, but passed because of the awful reviews. I'm glad to hear it's been fixed up. My son is into NWN, but I am looking for something a bit more turn-based, like the old SSI games. I have Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, but they were too clicky to hold my interest for long.
Imbicatus |
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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:Circle of 8 fixes a lot of ToEE'd problems, and the combat is the most tabletop accurate I've ever seen.Thanks DM & knightnday! I remember being excited about this game when it came out, but passed because of the awful reviews. I'm glad to hear it's been fixed up. My son is into NWN, but I am looking for something a bit more turn-based, like the old SSI games. I have Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, but they were too clicky to hold my interest for long.
You would probably really enjoy TOEE then, with the circle of 8 modpack. It fixes the bugs, and it is the best representation of tactical tabletop gameplay using 3.5 rules that has been made. It even gives the proper benefit of reach weapons and Attacks of Opportunity, you can ready actions, and so on.
MannyGoblin |
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Waterhavdian creatures!
NWN base game was pretty much a demo for future expansions but was servicable. NWN2 had much better characters.
Storms of Zehir is good since it gave you full control over your party make-up and development. Want a group of just clerics? You can do that! Forging was much quicker and you could set up caravans to bring in gold.
Best thing was creating pcs just for item creation and swapping them out when you want to send out a combat team.
Edit: As for Dance with Rogues, there seems to be several versions around the newest one is actually rather different than the older one(the second part is pretty much an entirely different game)
Scott Betts |
This is a good time to be getting into Baldur's Gate. The developers behind the Enhanced Editions of BG1 and BG2 are going to be releasing a new game in the series, set in the time between the two original games, in the same engine, featuring the same characters. If you pick up BG1 now, soon enough you'll be able to play through all three games in the series, back to back.
TarSpartan |
HenshinFanatic wrote:What, no love for Tower of Doom and Shadows over Mystara?I love those games, but an arcade beat 'em up is very different than the usual style of game asked for with a "D&D" game.
They were lots of fun back when they were the only options available, but if I want an arcade beat 'em up I'll keep playing "Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance."
While we're talking old games, did anyone else ever play AD&D for the Intellivision? Or am I really showing my age here?
Molten Dragon |
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Imbicatus wrote:HenshinFanatic wrote:What, no love for Tower of Doom and Shadows over Mystara?I love those games, but an arcade beat 'em up is very different than the usual style of game asked for with a "D&D" game.They were lots of fun back when they were the only options available, but if I want an arcade beat 'em up I'll keep playing "Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance."
While we're talking old games, did anyone else ever play AD&D for the Intellivision? Or am I really showing my age here?
Yes! My one friend had an intellivision back in the day. We played the heck out of the ad&d game. Good times...
Hama |
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Hama wrote:I don't even know what intellivision is.Intellivision.
Damn. And sometimes I feel old and I'm 28.
HenshinFanatic |
They were lots of fun back when they were the only options available, but if I want an arcade beat 'em up I'll keep playing "Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance."
Clearly you prefer Dark Alliance. It would be best to agree to disagree on that game's quality compared to the two Mystara games.
Though I'm sure what we could agree on is that a D&D Musou game loosely based on 5E would be freaking awesome. Now I can't stop imagining all the awesome potential combos different character types would have.
Adahn_Cielo |
So GOG has a Neverwinter Nights bundle with both games and their expansions, so I'm gonna get that but now I can't decide between Torment,ToEE, BG, and BG 2 to also get.
Torment. Not even close.
PS: If we're talking the old arcade beat em'up, the somewhat recent Dragon's Crown deserves more than a mention: it's practically a modern version of those, and fun as heck to play with friends.
Kalshane |
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Well I made my final decision :). I got:
NWN Diamond
NWN 2 Complete
P:T
ToEEOne last question: What does the Co8 mod change about ToEE?
This page breaks it down: Co8 Modpack Explained
There's actually two versions, one is almost entirely bugfixes with a couple of minor plot additions, and the other adds a bunch of (mostly post-endgame) content.
Krensky |