Planning Ahead: Looking towards sanctioning of Feast of Dust


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Grand Lodge 5/5

APG pregens... UGgghh...

Having run games for people with the pregens from ACG and OA, more mechanically complex pregens for new players who don't understand them (or the system in many cases) isn't something I am terribly interested in.

Silver Crusade 5/5

You say that, but I've seen people have just as much trouble with the Core pregens.

Grand Lodge 2/5

Well, Feast of Dust got pushed back yet again, so now I don't need to worry about it.


... and suddenly there was three weeks of silence in this thread?

What I would like as a customer is to see new books and APs pushed back a bit and use the manpower to clear up the backlog of sanctioning.

Someone earlier suggested this doesn't generate much revenue for Paizo, but I disagree. For example, "Daughters of Fury" is a deluxe adventure for 3rd-level characters, and takes them up to 6th level... where I play we have a group of new players just reaching 2nd level with their characters. By mid-November they could be starting this, which I would prefer to run over other older low-level games since its new to me. However, I won't ever buy an adventure or module from Paizo until there's a chronicle sheet to go with it. So if it were sanctioned, I would buy it, giving them money and supporting new people just getting into our hobby.

This also supports the selling of more books, or at least it would if Paizo would be sure to put 2-3 items on each chronicle sheet that came from their smaller works, like Classic Treasures Revisited, Dark Markets the Katapesh companion, or Occult Mysteries, to name just a few of the many. Put interesting things on the chronicle sheets that people will want to buy (instead of potions of healing and +1 weapons) and they will get the books that are needed to use them.

Personally I think that producing the chronicle sheet for a work should be part of its production cycle. I don't see any reason it can't be done for everything else the same as it is with scenarios, and part of their release instead of separate.

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Arcwin wrote:
What I would like as a customer is to see new books and APs pushed back a bit and use the manpower to clear up the backlog of sanctioning.

I'm not a Paizo employee, but I can say with confidence that this is never going to happen.

Pathfinder Society is not the be-all and end-all of Pathfinder RPG play.

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Paz wrote:
Arcwin wrote:
What I would like as a customer is to see new books and APs pushed back a bit and use the manpower to clear up the backlog of sanctioning.

I'm not a Paizo employee, but I can say with confidence that this is never going to happen.

Pathfinder Society is not the be-all and end-all of Pathfinder RPG play.

Yeah, they aren't going to chain up the bell-cow(s) just to try and get milk from a cat.


Do they get more Pathfinder sales from non-Society players? Interesting...

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Andrew Christian wrote:
Paz wrote:
Arcwin wrote:
What I would like as a customer is to see new books and APs pushed back a bit and use the manpower to clear up the backlog of sanctioning.

I'm not a Paizo employee, but I can say with confidence that this is never going to happen.

Pathfinder Society is not the be-all and end-all of Pathfinder RPG play.

Yeah, they aren't going to chain up the bell-cow(s) just to try and get milk from a cat.

Does not remove the validity that customers are willing to pay you more.

IF paizo stopped supporting PFS. I would no longer buy their products. I but books based on how much of it legal for PFS. So it is not quite milk from a cat. The only time I resent a purchase is when they ban from books I bought. Is that healthy for a customer that spends money every other week on your products?

Or is doing the job correct and expedient the first time so people like me purchase more, and value the purchase more?

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A few pieces of insight:

Paizo is a steadily growing company but they are still a smaller business. Last I checked they had about 40 or so employees. That includes customer service, warehouse staff, licensing, accounting, tech wizards, and other operational staff. The editorial pit fighters come to about a dozen souls.

This means that the ideal staffing for certain projects just will not exist. However the good folks at Paizo will routinely add additional side projects into the release stream as their hobbies intersect with their career. These are bonus goodies that come when they come, and are worked on in between other pressing matters.

Pathfinder Society is kind of this grey area between structured work assignments and hobby projects from the people at Paizo who just happen to love the organized play campaign.

Try thinking of PFS as a marketing strategy instead of a physical product. Scenarios are commissioned that tell a great story but are ultimately being used to let you playtest the game and some rules subsets.

Say a rulebook or module comes out. Paizo generates sales at the release but then sales for that product will most likely start to decline. A few weeks later the product is sanctioned for PFS which sparks a new interest in the product and a growth in sales. This is how PFS makes a mark on Paizo at large beyond just the scenarios every month.

If you do not like this because you engage in mostly PFS play, then I suggest holding off on the purchase of the module until it's PFS sanctioning. As Lisa Stevens has said in the past, let your wallet do the talking. If Paizo sees a greater increase on sales of a product that coincide with the sanctioning of the material for PFS, then greater resources will be dedicated to it.

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Justin Riddler wrote:


If you do not like this because you engage in mostly PFS play, then I suggest holding off on the purchase of the module until it's PFS sanctioning. As Lisa Stevens has said in the past, let your wallet do the talking. If Paizo sees a greater increase on sales of a product that coincide with the sanctioning of the material for PFS, then greater resources will be dedicated to it.

I agree with this completely, but what about after they sanction the items in they book they come back a time later and decide it was a bad idea.

How do I vote with my wallet on that. They have my money for a product I would have never bought had they done their job properly the first time.

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Finlanderboy wrote:
Justin Riddler wrote:


If you do not like this because you engage in mostly PFS play, then I suggest holding off on the purchase of the module until it's PFS sanctioning. As Lisa Stevens has said in the past, let your wallet do the talking. If Paizo sees a greater increase on sales of a product that coincide with the sanctioning of the material for PFS, then greater resources will be dedicated to it.

I agree with this completely, but what about after they sanction the items in they book they come back a time later and decide it was a bad idea.

How do I vote with my wallet on that. They have my money for a product I would have never bought had they done their job properly the first time.

This is a valid concern, but the current (not so old) regime should reduce the frequency of that happening. Before, things were sanctioned quickly. Now, stuff is left in the VO forum for a period for discussion before sanctioning, so there's less chance of it being banned after first being allowed.

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As far as module sanctioning I have a subscription to modules only for PFS use. if they stopped sanctioning modules, I'd stop buying them. So my sales dollars hit the books when the module hits the market.

I've been waiting a long time for the Daughters of Fury sanctioning. So long I'm questioning why I even have a module subscription.

But you are actually right, I should stop my module subscription and buy it only when it is PFS sanctioned so my dollar can do the talking.

I'll mull over my module subscription over the next few days. I'll probably stop my module subscription all things considered and buy them when/if they are sanctioned.

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