Warhammer Fantasy Dead. What now?


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So with Warhammer Fantasy battles dead, can anyone recommend a new army game to play.

I don't want a Skirmishing game
and I sure as hell don't want Age of Sigmar

Ideally I would like something I can use my vaste armies of Orcs, Goblins and Undead for.

Scarab Sages

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Kings of War....can be either an Army or a Skirmish game


What's to stop you from continuing to play Warhammer Fantasy? Just cause they've released a new ruleset doesn't mean you have to stop playing the old one.


Tinkergoth wrote:
What's to stop you from continuing to play Warhammer Fantasy? Just cause they've released a new ruleset doesn't mean you have to stop playing the old one.

In part, anger.

I've always disliked how GW marketed their games, and it was always frustrating trying to keep up to date with new rules and army books, but Age of Sigmar is a last straw as it were. Just kind of had it with the bastards and want nothing to do with them.

So onto new game, new system, and hopefully one that is fine with me using Figs from other companies, cause I got 2 Kickstarters of Reaper figs on top of my warhammer ones.


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Fair enough, personally I've never been a GW fan but I don't get the massive backlash they've been getting over AoS. The videos of people burning their minis particularly confused me. Yes, that will teach them, burn the stuff you already gave them vast sums of money for!


Tinkergoth wrote:
Fair enough, personally I've never been a GW fan but I don't get the massive backlash they've been getting over AoS. The videos of people burning their minis particularly confused me. Yes, that will teach them, burn the stuff you already gave them vast sums of money for!

Yeah that surprises me too, I would never do that. I spent years painting those and some of them are awesome. I have Naggash, 10 foot tall Lord of the Undead. I may be pissed but I can still use those figs for Pathfinder if nothing else


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Tinkergoth wrote:
Fair enough, personally I've never been a GW fan but I don't get the massive backlash they've been getting over AoS. The videos of people burning their minis particularly confused me. Yes, that will teach them, burn the stuff you already gave them vast sums of money for!

EXACTLY. I mean it's their property to do with as they will but that's exactly the type of vitriolic fanboy I try to avoid in real space.

At least do what the OP is doing and try to find another game that you can use your existing army with or SELL the bloody things. But to put all that money into an army or armies and the TIME painting it to just burn them.

UGH.

I love my hobbies but jesus H. Christ I can do without the fandom sometimes...


Kings of War is basically why Warhammer Fantasy died. It streamlined things a lot to halve game time while still being fun, and the models are mostly compatible.


Caineach wrote:
Kings of War is basically why Warhammer Fantasy died. It streamlined things a lot to halve game time while still being fun, and the models are mostly compatible.

Started looking into it after it was mentioned above. Got the free version of the rules to look through and it looks good. Plus I like the "Don't remove models as casualties" thing. Means I can get a little more elaborate putting a unit together


Greylurker wrote:
Caineach wrote:
Kings of War is basically why Warhammer Fantasy died. It streamlined things a lot to halve game time while still being fun, and the models are mostly compatible.

Started looking into it after it was mentioned above. Got the free version of the rules to look through and it looks good. Plus I like the "Don't remove models as casualties" thing. Means I can get a little more elaborate putting a unit together

I haven't played it personally yet. My buddy is trying to get me into it, but I just haven't had a chance. I never got into WHF either. From what I hear though, that one change is responsible for a drastic decrease in play time as you have less counting out individual dice each round of combat to figure out how many guys are alive. I know its not as big a deal in fantasy as 40k, since you have movement trays counting is easier, but its still an issue with some players I have seen.


Only minis game I play is Relic Knights. Small community here but it's growing slowly. I like it for the small army sizes and use of cards instead of dice, but sadly I don't think it'd suit what you're after. It's a very heavily anime influenced skirmish game.

You wouldn't be able to use your existing models for it, but have you looked at Warmachine/Hordes? I used to play that a lot. Low point games can feel very skirmish based but large ones start to feel a bit more like an actual battle. Only reason I stopped playing was the ultra competitive meta here... we have some of the top players in Australia here and at least a couple of guys who travel internationally for it, so it's not a very fun environment for those of us who like to build experimental lays, since everyone else just builds highly optimized lists that tale you out in a couple of turns.

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As I understand it, Warhammer Fantasy isn't dead unless Atlas Games to whom GW sold it to, has closed up shop.


LazarX wrote:
As I understand it, Warhammer Fantasy isn't dead unless Atlas Games to whom GW sold it to, has closed up shop.

When did this happen? I've never heard anything about it being sold off, I was under the impression they just moved into Age of Sigmar and left Fantasy as a legacy game.

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Tinkergoth wrote:
LazarX wrote:
As I understand it, Warhammer Fantasy isn't dead unless Atlas Games to whom GW sold it to, has closed up shop.
When did this happen? I've never heard anything about it being sold off, I was under the impression they just moved into Age of Sigmar and left Fantasy as a legacy game.

You're right, I thought you were referring to the roleplaying game which is currently owned by Fantasy Flight Games, former producers of Dragonstar.

Although I could have sworn I saw fantasy minatures wargaming going on at the Manhattan store last time I passed by a month ago.


Yeah fantasy is still being played. There's still tournaments for it and everything, just no new rules support. Official Warhammer Fantasy game is now Age of Sigmar, which I'm told plays more like 40k than Fantasy 8th Edition according to a few friends who are getting into it.


Tinkergoth wrote:

Only minis game I play is Relic Knights. Small community here but it's growing slowly. I like it for the small army sizes and use of cards instead of dice, but sadly I don't think it'd suit what you're after. It's a very heavily anime influenced skirmish game.

I'm still painting my Doctrin and Noh starters, but once I have 40 or so points on each side I'm going to start running demos at one of the local stores. Already had a couple of friends give it a shot and they enjoyed it a lot.

The Minis are fiddly though. Looks great but I need tweasers to put them together.


Greylurker wrote:


I'm still painting my Doctrin and Noh starters, but once I have 40 or so points on each side I'm going to start running demos at one of the local stores. Already had a couple of friends give it a shot and they enjoyed it a lot.

The Minis are fiddly though. Looks great but I need tweasers to put them together.

The material doesn't help. Restic is crap. New minis from the Void Break expansion are going to be resin for the small minis and plastic for the centerpiece models (big mecha, the Relic Knights themselves and so on).

I'm a Cerci Speed Circuit player, though I have Star Nebula Corsairs as my secondary faction. I'll be signing up as one of the Ninja Corps members soon as I have enough of each painted to be able to run demo days. Right now once just organised a small local league.


I play Horde Of The Things by Wargame Research Group. Rules are simple, can use any figures you want( I have an army of giant spiders that cost me about $2.00 at the 99 cent store) and games are over fairly quickly.
Rules are based on De Bellis Antiquitatis rules, at present the popular rules for ancient wargaming


You can try WarmaHordes, I've heard some good things about it

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