It doesn't have that info because the AP's aren't really canon, if you haven't played them.
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It doesn't have that info because the AP's aren't really canon, if you haven't played them.
This is correct.
Each AP is assumed to begin (in-world) in the equivalent real-world year of its release. So Rise of the Runelords, originally printed in 2008, is assumed to begin in 4708 AR. Reign of Winter, for both that and in-setting reasons, begins in 4713.
Other than that, events of APs have not yet happened. Some of the sourcebooks have erred by presenting AP material as history (such as Inner Sea Combat's references to Grey Maidens).
The one legitimate exception to this is the Shattered Star AP, which assumes that Rise of the Runelords, Curse of the Crimson Throne, and Second Darkness have already happened.
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The idea is that each AP takes place as you play it. So, if your group wants to build some continuity, awesome! If you'd like to reset the world every time, that works too.
This is nice because (other than Shattered Star), you can really play them in whatever order you want. And players who play in several APs love nods to their old exploits.
Cheers!
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So just for clarity's sake it is currently the year 4715 on Golarion, however in the year 4713 Baba Yaga was scheduled to come and replace Queen Elvanna which is also the year in which the events of Reign of Winter takes place. So not in my own game but say during Pathfinder Society should we treat Irrisen as something like Schrödinger's cat, where the events of the Reign of Winter both did and did not happen?
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For home games you can certainly assume APs have already occured, and vague tales of bands of heroes flit about as rumor here and there. This is the way my group and I prefer things, and we fill in the details of these heroes as we progress (the heroes being them, obviously).
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So just for clarity's sake it is currently the year 4715 on Golarion, however in the year 4713 Baba Yaga was scheduled to come and replace Queen Elvanna which is also the year in which the events of Reign of Winter takes place. So not in my own game but say during Pathfinder Society should we treat Irrisen as something like Schrödinger's cat, where the events of the Reign of Winter both did and did not happen?
What the current year is on Golarion depends 100% on your group. If you choose to set it after 4713 and you haven't run Reign of Winter, you'll need to make a decision for your game as to how that AP played out and who's now on the throne there. The easiest solution if you NEVER intend to play Reign of Winter or do anything with Irrisen is to ignore it... or to just assume that the schedule for when the next queen comes along isn't 4713 but a few more years in the future.
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For home games you can certainly assume APs have already occured, and vague tales of bands of heroes flit about as rumor here and there.You really can't because every single AP is a world changing event, and if they'd all occured, Golarion would be unrecognisable. The simplest thing to do is to simply ignore it. Which means that the parts of Reign of Winter that did not happen include Elvanna's freezing the world.
There are subtle changes in every single adventure path but for the most part the adventure paths aren't about changing the world but stopping the world from being changed. There are a few exceptions to this like wrath of the righteous but in Second Darkness, nobody even knows that the events occur and the statusquo is maintained.
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So just for clarity's sake it is currently the year 4715 on Golarion, however in the year 4713 Baba Yaga was scheduled to come and replace Queen Elvanna which is also the year in which the events of Reign of Winter takes place. So not in my own game but say during Pathfinder Society should we treat Irrisen as something like Schrödinger's cat, where the events of the Reign of Winter both did and did not happen?What the current year is on Golarion depends 100% on your group. If you choose to set it after 4713 and you haven't run Reign of Winter, you'll need to make a decision for your game as to how that AP played out and who's now on the throne there. The easiest solution if you NEVER intend to play Reign of Winter or do anything with Irrisen is to ignore it... or to just assume that the schedule for when the next queen comes along isn't 4713 but a few more years in the future.
But I am not asking about my own group, I'm asking about Pathfinder Society. Will there never be a scenario that takes place in Irrisen again? Are you just never going to bring up who is the current ruler of Irrisen again? 20 years from now is the events of Reign of Winter going to have taken place but the specifics of it kept vague so people can decide them in there own game? Or some other 4th thing?
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But I am not asking about my own group, I'm asking about Pathfinder Society. Will there never be a scenario that takes place in Irrisen again? Are you just never going to bring up who is the current ruler of Irrisen again? 20 years from now is the events of Reign of Winter going to have taken place but the specifics of it kept vague so people can decide them in there own game? Or some other 4th thing?
Then you'll need to direct your question to the Pathfinder Society folks. I suspect that we will indeed do another Irrisen scenario some day, at which point IF it matters who's in charge, that scenario will clarify.
If you need to know for a character background element... your best bet would be to either do what you can WITHOUT involving Irrisen's rulership, or to simply set that concept for a background aside for a home game and go with something else for your PFS character. Not EVERY option is viable for EVERY campaign, including the PFS campaign.
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But I am not asking about my own group, I'm asking about Pathfinder Society. Will there never be a scenario that takes place in Irrisen again? Are you just never going to bring up who is the current ruler of Irrisen again? 20 years from now is the events of Reign of Winter going to have taken place but the specifics of it kept vague so people can decide them in there own game? Or some other 4th thing?Then you'll need to direct your question to the Pathfinder Society folks. I suspect that we will indeed do another Irrisen scenario some day, at which point IF it matters who's in charge, that scenario will clarify.
If you need to know for a character background element... your best bet would be to either do what you can WITHOUT involving Irrisen's rulership, or to simply set that concept for a background aside for a home game and go with something else for your PFS character. Not EVERY option is viable for EVERY campaign, including the PFS campaign.
Thanks for answering my annoying question.
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While cool, that idea also has issues: say, someone fails an important scenario/AP, which would logically preclude that some other adventure happens at all. Player importance in a canon environment is always tricky, and sometimes impossible. Still, if you can pull it off in a home game, it would be quite the epic feat to have a group that plays through nearly everything Pathfinder has to offer.
And my own two cents, since everyone's characters will experience events in a different order, the most important thing to me is to try and make a cohesive storyline for just my PC. If it ever comes up that your PC will start discussing history with another PC, I'd imagine the conversation could become quite complicated and interesting!