Filth Demon


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Filth Demon text and question:
If you succeed at an Intelligence or Knowledge 14 check, or if the check to defeat has the Fire or Force trait, add 5 to the check to defeat.

Wait, it says it gets harder if the you succeed at a Knowledge 14 check? Knowing the Filth Demon makes it harder to fight? Why would you want to succeed at the check then?

Most of the other monsters of that ilk say "add 5 to it".

I know that usually difficulty increases say "the difficulty to defeat is increased by X", but this is a tad confusing.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Probably a typo and is supposed to say "add 5 to your check to defeat."


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If it would increase the difficulty of the check it would usually say just that. If you add something to a check (be it dice or modifiers), you add it to your (or someone else's) dice and modifiers. I don't think that this minor change in wording makes a difference here

Grand Lodge

zh, I think the wording is used to separate the checks:

Succeed at a Intelligence/Knowledge 14 check (1)
OR
the check (2) to defeat has the Fire or Force trait

add 5 to the check (2) to defeat.

If you simply say add 5 to it, are you saying you add 5 to the Intelligence/Knowledge check or the check to defeat? (Most of us would understand this but still.) So they are stating specifically that you add 5 to the check to defeat. And I didn't see it say increase so it is in your benefit.

Pathfinder ACG Developer

It's beneficial (see several other similar instances). Knowledge is power!


Keith Richmond wrote:
Knowledge is power!

Guard it well.

Grand Lodge

Yo Joe!

Spoiler:
Yes, I know it's not the same as "Knowing is Half the Battle."

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Theryon Stormrune wrote:

zh, I think the wording is used to separate the checks:

Succeed at a Intelligence/Knowledge 14 check (1)
OR
the check (2) to defeat has the Fire or Force trait

add 5 to the check (2) to defeat.

If you simply say add 5 to it, are you saying you add 5 to the Intelligence/Knowledge check or the check to defeat? (Most of us would understand this but still.) So they are stating specifically that you add 5 to the check to defeat. And I didn't see it say increase so it is in your benefit.

100% correct.

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