PFS PSA: You can always choose to play an in-tier pregen.


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nosig wrote:
Joe Ducey wrote:
Like I said I haven't spent much time looking, just repeating what I've read. My personal opinion is that playing a pregen should be treated like GMing for the purposes of a Day Job. (If you have the extra hours boon, sure otherwise no.)
'course one could always say "This is my 1st level PC Lem-clone, so I get my Faction card checks and my day job roll (Perform)... I'll switch him around to something else before my next game..."

First level pregens are a different beast (which I should have said earlier), due to the rebuild rules.

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1) To quote from We Be Goblins, Free:

"Those players who have a Chronicle sheet allowing them to play goblin characters in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign may play those characters in We Be Goblins Free! so long as they
are within the module’s level range."

Personally, I think this wording should be applied to all 3 of the WBG mods, as obviously the rules on goblins in PFS have changed over the years. So you dont have to be below the level of the goblin pregen to get credit onto the character. You can just play your own goblin as long as they are in range.

2) The intent of the 'newly created" level 1 PC, at the time, was not that the PC hadnt been locked in at 2 yet, since that rule hadnt yet been established. It was exactly what it sounds like, a character with 0 chronicles applied so far.
Getting rid of the 'newly created' is one thing I had suggested be removed because of the limiting factor it has for conventions and since people tended not to abide by it anyway (I didnt enforce it at conventions at all).
If its still in the Guide someplace, please point out the page to me, so I can speak to the new CC about it once they take office.
I think that 'not locked in at level 2' is a fine definition, but its probably easier to just remove the wording entirely than to add more wording that explains the first wording.

Edit: Along that same line, I have been making suggestions for the past couple years to try to help make the credit system as easy as possible by making everything the same as much as possible, so if you see any differences in the guide for how someone takes credit for a pregen vs a regular character or as a gm vs as a player, please let me know so I can suggest those changes too.
Of course, you are welcome to suggest those changes yourself as well. You dont have to be a VO to suggest changes be made. :)

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Pregens may make Day Job checks.

I'll search for the ruling when I have time later and link it in the compilation.

But it's inferred from the fact that playing a 4th/7th level Pregen and applying the credit to a level 1 prohibits downtime.

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Nefreet wrote:

Pregens may make Day Job checks.

I'll search for the ruling when I have time later and link it in the compilation.

But it's inferred from the fact that playing a 4th/7th level Pregen and applying the credit to a level 1 prohibits downtime.

thanks! (whichever way it goes - I think it needs to be on your wonderful list).

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It is, I just need to link it.

Edit: Found it. If you read the thread, someone mentions that the "No Day Job for Pregens" rule was removed in the Season 5 Guide's changelog. Since we're in Season 7, and there's no language restricting Pregen Day Jobs, the normal rules would apply (if you're playing a character with ranks in an appropriate skill, you may make a Day Job).

(I had a free moment at work to look it up just now)

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Nefreet wrote:

It is, I just need to link it.

Edit: Found it. If you read the thread, someone mentions that the "No Day Job for Pregens" rule was removed in the Season 5 Guide's changelog. Since we're in Season 7, and there's no language restricting Pregen Day Jobs, the normal rules would apply (if you're playing a character with ranks in an appropriate skill, you may make a Day Job).

(I had a free moment at work to look it up just now)

Thanks thought I remembered something along those lines.

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Nefreet wrote:

It is, I just need to link it.

Edit: Found it. If you read the thread, someone mentions that the "No Day Job for Pregens" rule was removed in the Season 5 Guide's changelog. Since we're in Season 7, and there's no language restricting Pregen Day Jobs, the normal rules would apply (if you're playing a character with ranks in an appropriate skill, you may make a Day Job).

(I had a free moment at work to look it up just now)

The thread mentions that the "No Dayjob for Modules" rule (while playing your own character) is removed. Nothing about a "No Day Job for Pregens" rule.

But with the dayjob valid skills of the pregens it's peanuts anyway.

Silver Crusade 5/5

Small thing here, you cannot play the fourth level pregens from the NPC Codex, as they do not exist. The NPC Codex only has 1st, 7th, and 12th level iconics, and the 12th are obviously out.

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Seth Gipson wrote:

1) To quote from We Be Goblins, Free:

"Those players who have a Chronicle sheet allowing them to play goblin characters in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign may play those characters in We Be Goblins Free! so long as they
are within the module’s level range."

Personally, I think this wording should be applied to all 3 of the WBG mods, as obviously the rules on goblins in PFS have changed over the years. So you dont have to be below the level of the goblin pregen to get credit onto the character. You can just play your own goblin as long as they are in range.

...

The language you're asking for is already in the rules/chronicle for WBG Too (but not the original WBG).

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Pathfinder PF Special Edition Subscriber
Seth Gipson wrote:

2) The intent of the 'newly created" level 1 PC, at the time, was not that the PC hadnt been locked in at 2 yet, since that rule hadnt yet been established. It was exactly what it sounds like, a character with 0 chronicles applied so far.

Getting rid of the 'newly created' is one thing I had suggested be removed [...]
If its still in the Guide someplace, please point out the page to me, so I can speak to the new CC about it once they take office.

Finding it is as simple as doing a word search for "newly".

PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
If you play a 1st-level pregenerated character, you can apply the credit to a newly created character of your very own.

However, one would also have this sentence to contend with, so any wording change would have to be clear:

PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
You may not assign a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher.

Grand Lodge 5/5

TomG wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:

2) The intent of the 'newly created" level 1 PC, at the time, was not that the PC hadnt been locked in at 2 yet, since that rule hadnt yet been established. It was exactly what it sounds like, a character with 0 chronicles applied so far.

Getting rid of the 'newly created' is one thing I had suggested be removed [...]
If its still in the Guide someplace, please point out the page to me, so I can speak to the new CC about it once they take office.

Finding it is as simple as doing a word search for "newly".

PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
If you play a 1st-level pregenerated character, you can apply the credit to a newly created character of your very own.

However, one would also have this sentence to contend with, so any wording change would have to be clear:

PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
You may not assign a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher.

Thanks for the heads up.

To fix the bottom quote...

PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
You may not assign a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character of higher than 1st level to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher.

Emphasis mine.

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