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This just surfaced

We can expect the trailer to come out tomorrow.


Newest trailer on teh UToobz.

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The Empire of The Mouse sure is having a field day year, and continues gift favored son Jimmy Kimmel with the first shot at blockbuster trailers.


Looks decent.

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If not for the necessity of movie plot tension, could Captain America even get through Iron Man's armor and shielding?


With his unbreakable super duper shield of amazingness? Yeah, probably. It has a sharp edge, or at least it always seems like it.


It has a sharp edge when they need it to cut but is dull as a rubber ball when they need it to be. Quite useful.

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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
The Empire of The Mouse sure is having a field day year, and continues gift favored son Jimmy Kimmel with the first shot at blockbuster trailers.

Does'nt surprise me this stuff is on Kimmel. Kimmel is ABC. Disney owns ABC.

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I love the design of Black Panther so much, and I can't wait to see him in the movie. Though I'm kinda disappointed that Baron Zemo is not wearing his mask, according to the actor Daniel Bruhl.

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CapeCodRPGer wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
The Empire of The Mouse sure is having a field day year, and continues gift favored son Jimmy Kimmel with the first shot at blockbuster trailers.
Does'nt surprise me this stuff is on Kimmel. Kimmel is ABC. Disney owns ABC.

Truth. Hence my purposeful use of the above terms.

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I like the look of Black Panther.

Also, Tony's "So was I", breaks my heart. So much emotion in that simple sentence.

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
It has a sharp edge when they need it to cut but is dull as a rubber ball when they need it to be. Quite useful.

Yeah, that shield's always been selectively useful, bouncing or absorbing force as necessary for the cool stunt of the moment.

When it gets hit by Thor's hammer, it absorbs all impact, so that the dude holding it isn't smashed into jelly by the shield getting rammed halfway into the core of the earth.

When he flings it at a wall, it magically no longer absorbs impact, and instead bounces around like a superball (maybe the front of the shield is vibranium and the edges are made out of Tigger-hide, for extra bouncy, flouncy, trouncy funfunfun?).

When an annoyed Peggy Carter shoots it multiple times in a sealed underground bunker, the bullets lose all velocity and drop harmlessly to the ground (as they would if it absorbed all impact), instead of ricocheting around and killing everyone.

When Iron Man shoots it with a repulsor, it reflects around and shoots people, and when Thor smacks it with his hammer, a massive shockwave flies out from it's surface (or, if he hits it edge on, it flies around and smashes a bunch of robots).

Eh. It's the same in the comics. Remender had Havok shoot it with a plasma blast to boost Cap up into the air a few years back, which would have looked kind of hilarious if the shield actually absorbed impact (as it usually does) since Cap would have just plotzed on the ground, and then said, 'Uh, Havok? Just shoot the bad-guy and he'll fall down to me, 'kay? Don't try anything clever, we all know that's your brother's job.'


Interesting trailer.
Unsure if I will see it or not.


Hama wrote:

I like the look of Black Panther.

Also, Tony's "So was I", breaks my heart. So much emotion in that simple sentence.

That sentence is what sold me on the film.

Best part of the trailer for me is that we're seeing what looks to be snippets of the first third-to-half of the film.

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I love the Arc that Tony has been on since the end of the Avengers. PTSD in Iron Man 3, which turns in to the need to overreach with Ultron, and then the guilt of that to come down on the side of the limiting powers of superheroes, which sets him up for the fight with Cap.

He is still one of the good guys, but there is no way they couldn't be fighting here, and the emotion of that was captured really well by the trailer.

I really want to see this.

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Turin the Mad wrote:
Hama wrote:

I like the look of Black Panther.

Also, Tony's "So was I", breaks my heart. So much emotion in that simple sentence.

That sentence is what sold me on the film.

That one line is pretty much the pay off for all the character interaction Age of Ultron.

Scarab Sages

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I didn't see Spider Man though. I hope he is in this for more than a mid-credits cameo.

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They are saving spider man for the second or third trailer, surely. After all they gave us Black Panther in this one.

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I'm hoping the post credit scene shows Dr. Strange. That's the Marvel movie after this one.


CapeCodRPGer wrote:
I'm hoping the post credit scene shows Dr. Strange. That's the Marvel movie after this one.

They'll have plenty of time to get that scene in the can, since Civil War doesn't hit the screen until this coming spring.

I'm looking forward to that scene since it features a character I'm only vaguely familiar with.


I wonder if Ant-Man is in this trailer. I imagine it would be quite a challenge to find him if he is.


Kemiroch wrote:
I wonder if Ant-Man is in this trailer. I imagine it would be quite a challenge to find him if he is.

He's in Iron Man's armor mucking things up so that Winter Soldier and Cap stand a chance. ;)


Set wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
It has a sharp edge when they need it to cut but is dull as a rubber ball when they need it to be. Quite useful.

Yeah, that shield's always been selectively useful, bouncing or absorbing force as necessary for the cool stunt of the moment.

When it gets hit by Thor's hammer, it absorbs all impact, so that the dude holding it isn't smashed into jelly by the shield getting rammed halfway into the core of the earth.

When he flings it at a wall, it magically no longer absorbs impact, and instead bounces around like a superball (maybe the front of the shield is vibranium and the edges are made out of Tigger-hide, for extra bouncy, flouncy, trouncy funfunfun?).

When an annoyed Peggy Carter shoots it multiple times in a sealed underground bunker, the bullets lose all velocity and drop harmlessly to the ground (as they would if it absorbed all impact), instead of ricocheting around and killing everyone.

When Iron Man shoots it with a repulsor, it reflects around and shoots people, and when Thor smacks it with his hammer, a massive shockwave flies out from it's surface (or, if he hits it edge on, it flies around and smashes a bunch of robots).

Eh. It's the same in the comics. Remender had Havok shoot it with a plasma blast to boost Cap up into the air a few years back, which would have looked kind of hilarious if the shield actually absorbed impact (as it usually does) since Cap would have just plotzed on the ground, and then said, 'Uh, Havok? Just shoot the bad-guy and he'll fall down to me, 'kay? Don't try anything clever, we all know that's your brother's job.'

That's even funnier if you remember that for the longest time, there wasn't really much impact to Havok's blasts - they were plasma bolts. It was the other brother who did kinetic stuff.


I was really hoping for spider-man. In my opinion, his arc was the best part of civil war.


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Black Dougal wrote:
I was really hoping for spider-man. In my opinion, his arc was the best part of civil war.

I really can't see this Civil War being much like the comic's Civil War. The pieces aren't in place and they've only got one movie to work with. You weren't going to get anything like Spider-Man's arc in the movie, even if he was in it. He'd get a few personal scenes and play a support role in the basic Cap/Bucky/IM arc.


I really wish they did a different story line then this one.

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Again, like Jeff said, this will have almost no relationship to the comic Civil War story line.


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Other than the film title and perhaps the famous "You Move" speech by Cap.

"You Move" ties into Spidey's participation in the comic Civil War, magnificently well done if memory serves. If they included "You Move" in Civil War, I'm betting that scene was the most stressful performance-wise to pull off.

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Freehold DM wrote:

Interesting trailer.

Unsure if I will see it or not.

But....but.....Joss isn't involved!


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Aberzombie wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Interesting trailer.

Unsure if I will see it or not.
But....but.....Joss isn't involved!

Same directors as the Winter Soldier...which gives me a lot of hope for this movie.

Also I would guess that Black Panther probably has a larger role in this movie than Spiderman, hence why we seem him and not the latter. Timing of casting seems to support that, because I think they cast Panther way way earlier than they did Spiderman.


Aberzombie wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Interesting trailer.

Unsure if I will see it or not.
But....but.....Joss isn't involved!

Joss was involved in winter soldier, just uncredited.


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Since the Whedonverse escaped television, nothing can escape from It's overly contrived clutches.

Sovereign Court

Freehold DM wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Interesting trailer.

Unsure if I will see it or not.
But....but.....Joss isn't involved!
Joss was involved in winter soldier, just uncredited.

So? It was an awesome movie.


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I've heard nothing but the best of Captain America movies, and loved him in The Avengers, so high hopes for me.


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The Whedonverse wrote:
Since the Whedonverse escaped television, nothing can escape from It's overly contrived clutches.

{in William Conrad narrator voice:} Will Freeholdy the Squirrelly Drow and Yesterday J. Moose escape from Boris Whedon's dastardly cinematic clutches?

Tune in next time for:

"Grind 'Em If You Can't Find 'Em"

- or -

"Clutches Cargocult"

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Turin the Mad wrote:

Other than the film title and perhaps the famous "You Move" speech by Cap.

"You Move" ties into Spidey's participation in the comic Civil War, magnificently well done if memory serves. If they included "You Move" in Civil War, I'm betting that scene was the most stressful performance-wise to pull off.

That is one of my favorite comic book moments. If done right, it can be a great scene. Also this would look great on a big screen. I'd like to hear this Cap's old line:

"I am loyal to nothing, general...except the Dream. "

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Yeah but Spidey unmasking himself would have absolutely no impact since this is the first time he appears in MCU.

captain yesterday wrote:
I've heard nothing but the best of Captain America movies, and loved him in The Avengers, so high hopes for me.

You haven't seen them? You should correct that mistake asap. First is kinda campy but still really good and the Winter Soldier blew me away.

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The first movie made me a Cap fan, the second was probably the best Marvel movie to date. I'm looking forward to Civil War.


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They are both at the tippy top of my movies I have to watch list.


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Hama wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've heard nothing but the best of Captain America movies, and loved him in The Avengers, so high hopes for me.
You haven't seen them? You should correct that mistake asap. First is kinda campy but still really good and the Winter Soldier blew me away.

I recommend watching the first Captain America (it's still at Redbox) in a double feature following The Rocketeer (1991) (if you can find it, not at Redbox).

Edit: Huh, you can rent Rocketeer through Amazon.


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I love The Rocketeer!


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captain yesterday wrote:
I love The Rocketeer!

Joe Johnston directed them both. They have that seem feel for the period. (I like them both too.)


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First CA is the better of the two. WS was good, but I just loved the feel of TFA, stupid ending aside.


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Krensky wrote:
Again, like Jeff said, this will have almost no relationship to the comic Civil War story line.

Thank goodness for that. When they announced it as Civil War, I was really worried it would be them trying to distill the superhero registration story into a movie. But a split among Avengers (a "civil war") because of something to do with Bucky, I'm on board.


Hama wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

Interesting trailer.

Unsure if I will see it or not.
But....but.....Joss isn't involved!
Joss was involved in winter soldier, just uncredited.
So? It was an awesome movie.

it was alright.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
The first movie made me a Cap fan, the second was probably the best Marvel movie to date.I'm looking forward to Civil War.

Didn't see ant-man, huh?

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Ant-man is great. Winter soldiers stand head and shoulders above.

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
First CA is the better of the two. WS was good, but I just loved the feel of TFA, stupid ending aside.

Ditto. I didn't like the ending of Cap 1, because it put a nail in my dreams of there being an Invaders movie.

Otherwise, I loved it, particularly that they avoided the desire to have Cap be quippy and gave the funnier lines to other characters (particularly Tommy Lee Jones' Colonel), instead. Instead of saying, 'Oh hey, making Stark a snark machine totally worked, let's make *all* of our characters snark machines!' they avoided chaining everyone to a single tone or feel that worked for them the first time, and allowed Cap to be Cap, a kind of serious boy scout and not Veronica Mars.

Winter Soldier was also good, with some amazing fight choreography. I can watch that first fight on the boat over and over. So awesome.

Really, the only beef I have with either of the Cap movies is that the Avengers movies constantly feel the need to put him in uglier costumes than the ones he has in his solo pictures, and he looks bad by comparison. I blame Joss for that.


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Set wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
First CA is the better of the two. WS was good, but I just loved the feel of TFA, stupid ending aside.

Ditto. I didn't like the ending of Cap 1, because it put a nail in my dreams of there being an Invaders movie.

I don't think that was ever going to be in the cards. The android Human Torch would be pretty close to the FF Human Torch that I'm sure some kind of legal complaint would have been lodged. And it's my understanding that Marvel shopped out the Submariner's movie rights and doesn't currently hold them.

Sovereign Court

Set wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
First CA is the better of the two. WS was good, but I just loved the feel of TFA, stupid ending aside.

Ditto. I didn't like the ending of Cap 1, because it put a nail in my dreams of there being an Invaders movie.

Otherwise, I loved it, particularly that they avoided the desire to have Cap be quippy and gave the funnier lines to other characters (particularly Tommy Lee Jones' Colonel), instead. Instead of saying, 'Oh hey, making Stark a snark machine totally worked, let's make *all* of our characters snark machines!' they avoided chaining everyone to a single tone or feel that worked for them the first time, and allowed Cap to be Cap, a kind of serious boy scout and not Veronica Mars.

Winter Soldier was also good, with some amazing fight choreography. I can watch that first fight on the boat over and over. So awesome.

Really, the only beef I have with either of the Cap movies is that the Avengers movies constantly feel the need to put him in uglier costumes than the ones he has in his solo pictures, and he looks bad by comparison. I blame Joss for that.

Joss whedon most probably didn't have anything to do with Cap's costume. Producers and costume designers did.

That said, Best Cap costume is the one from TFA

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