The Goblin Babies Strike Back: A Party of Young Goblins


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I'm just saying, starting out with a +6 Dexterity would be pretty sweet. Plus, nobody really feels bad about goblin infanticide, so running a whole party of them doesn't mean any punches have to be pulled. ;D


-6 to Strength, -4 to CON. Miniscule damage dice.

The wording of Goblin Gunslinger explicitly deals with Medium-sized firearms, not any inappropriately-sized firearm, so you can't use big guns to make up for damage.

Even with dex-to-damage, a 1d3 Tiny rapier isn't going to do much.

The only way for martial Goblin babies to keep up is going to be Dex-to-Damage with additional damage dice that are unaffected by size - sneak attacks - Slayer, Mantis Zealot, suchlike.

Probably, the Goblin Babies are going to rely on blasting for damage and animal companions for muscle. Goliath Druid, Fire Bomber Alchemist, Draconic (red) Sorcerer, stuff like that...

And, depending on whether these are the goblin babies that the paladin orphaned and then raised with care and dignity, or whether these are the goblin babies that the paladin orphaned and left to fend for themselves, there has to be a Paladin or Antipaladin.


I apologize—I may have been unclear about which "Young" mode we're using. I'm talking about the playable kind from Ultimate Campaign.

The PRD wrote:
A young character has a +2 bonus to Dexterity and a —2 penalty to Strength, Constitution, and Wisdom.

Size does not seem to be reduced, note.


Ah - haven't used or seen those rules in a while - I was using the Young creature template... wait a second...

The PRD wrote:
A young character does not have access to the same classes as adult characters... As such, you can select only NPC classes while in this age category, beginning play and advancing in level as an adept, aristocrat, commoner, expert, or warrior, according to your interests and social background.

That means they'll be wandering around with NPC class levels, no bonus feats, hardly any class features worth a damn. Unless their twelfth birthday is coming up real quick, they'll be slaughtered.


You just hate fun, don't you?


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While you are at it, why not make them Commoners? And definitely use a 10 point buy at most. If you have access to the old D&D gazetteer Orcs of Thar, use the tables in that supplement to roll for weapon and armor defects. If you want to run a game with really weak player characters, there is no point in holding back on the nerfs.

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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
You just hate fun, don't you?

Yes, yes he does. Seriously though who says you have to follow that rule. I'm currently running campaign with child heroes. The key is to let the kids find a magical macguffin that bestows them with knowledge and power beyond there years. Then you can have goblin child flinging fire balls.

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Or just apply the bestiary young template to them. And then apply it to everything else they run into also.

Also, paizo doesn't follow their own rules. Yoon, the kineticist Iconic is 8 years old, has the young template, and in one version, is level 7.


So a party of young goblins find a baby goblin...what happens?

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JJ Jordan wrote:
So a party of young goblins find a baby goblin...what happens?

Depends on how hungry they are, I guess.


Lol feral gnasher barbarian goblin lol... always fun


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
you just hate fun, don't you?

Are you saying the prospect of a party of young goblins being slaughtered isn't fun?

If they are getting Small size and PC class levels, then go crazy... seriously, going crazy is obligatory for such a party.

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