[Occult-Errata] Typo in Undercast rules


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Possible errata here:

PDF, page 144, Undercasting Spells wrote:
For example, a psychic spellcaster who adds ego whip III to his list of spells known can cast it as ego whip I, II, or III. If he casts it as ego whip I, it is treated in all ways as that spell; it uses the text and the saving throw DC for that spell, and requires him to expend a 3rd-level spell slot.

I'm assuming that last line should say "... expend a 1st-level spell slot" or else undercasting is rather pointless.

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yeah , i was looking to roll up a psychic, but the explanation of the ability as written makes no sense.
Would be nice for some clarification

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The text is correct, as ego whip I is a 3rd-level spell.


I fail to see how that is useful. In fact I can see no reason do to this.

I thought the whole point of undercasting spells is so that you would essentially have a greater selection of spells by not having the lower level spells taking up spells known but still being able to use them via under casting the higher level spells.

If I can only cast it using a 3rd level slot but it works as a 1st level spell why would I do this? I'd rather cast it at 3rd level.

If I could cast it as a 1st level spell using a 1st level slot then this is useful for when I run out of 3rd level slots or I am going against a weak enemy and don't want to waste a more powerful spell.

Maybe I'm missing something???


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Ego Whip III is a 5th level spell. The psychic undercasts it as Ego Whip I, a 3rd level spell.

Ego Whip I is NOT a first level spell, and even undercast should not use a first level spell slot.


Now that makes sense.

Actually I remember figuring this out myself a while ago.

Thanks for pointing it out again. Doh!


On a related note I think it's the Ego Whip 1, 2 or 3 that is causing confusion that people think that Ego Whip 1 is a first level spell and that Ego Whip 2 is a second level spell.

Of course if you read the damn spell entries that won't happen!

I feel real smart right now! ;)

Edit: It would also help if I actually read Mark's post in stead of going over it really fast! :(

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Mark Seifter wrote:
The text is correct, as ego whip I is a 3rd-level spell.

oh, derp.

I think myself and the OP were thinking of ego-whipI being 1st level spell and ego-whip III being 3rd.

Anyway maybe in 2nd printing use mind-thrust as an example since its versions (I,II,III) also are equal to spell level.

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