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Freehold DM wrote:
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The Whedonverse will merely suffocate it with exposition, so much witty exposition!


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Take my leia take my han
fight in space you cannot stand
I don't care cause I'm still free
You can't take the force from me...


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Freehold DM wrote:

According to a beautiful young woman, star wars 8 and 9 are non-Abrams based.

Was he fired? Contract issues? Something else? Can this be verified?

Fired? I don't think so. We've known since mid 2014 that Rian Johnson is directing Ep 8. And the director for Ep 9 only got announced August 2015 as Colin Trevorrow. I guess I'd be inclined to ask if Abrams had ever been confirmed for directing all three, of if that had just been rumor once he was named to direct Ep7.


Wasn't one of those directors known for time travel movies? That would explain why they hired the actor for Anakin for a later movie...

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Aranna wrote:
Wasn't one of those directors known for time travel movies? That would explain why they hired the actor for Anakin for a later movie...

Force ghost or flashback is more likely.

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Abrams was only EVER directing this first new movie. The plan was always for other directors to do the subsequent films. Abrams is remaining involved as consultant and producer though, if I'm not mistaken, so he will still have a hand in the direction of the next movies

Has Hayden Christensen's involvement in a future Star Wars film actually been confirmed? As far as I know, that is just a rumor ...

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Hama wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Matrix Dragon wrote:
Heh, I actually enjoyed watching Avatar in 3D. I think it added a lot to the movie.
IMO the 3d and visual effects were the only memorable thing about the movie. It was almost insultingly bland and forgettable otherwise.
Except for Quaritch.

Who?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't remember who you're talking about)

The badass bad guy leader with bleached hair, scarred face and so much testosterone oozing out of him that people around him go bald from exposure.

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Freehold DM wrote:
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All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Soon we will see the end of this pitiful Whedon mania.

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Star Wars Episode 8: Bad Force

Bad Force
Bad Force
Bad Force

He rides across the nation
The thoroughbred of sin
He thrives on the apprehension
That you just sent in

It needs evaluation
So let the games begin
A heinous crime, you'll scream 'till hoarse
A senseless death is nice of course

Bad Force!


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
sets thread on fire, make sure baronaremhashevaum escapes while others are trapped with in the conflagration

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Soon we will see the end of this pitiful Whedon mania.

Say what you want, Whedon would've killed Spock and Kirk with radiation poisoning.


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
sets thread on fire, make sure baronaremhashevaum escapes while others are trapped with in the conflagration

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Soon we will see the end of this pitiful Whedon mania.

bows

Yes, my master.


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Freehold DM wrote:

According to a beautiful young woman, star wars 8 and 9 are non-Abrams based.

Was he fired? Contract issues? Something else? Can this be verified?

Ed Greenwood is going to be writing Episodes VIII and IX. They will focus on Dark Elminster and Jedi Master Drizzt, who teams up with Jedi Knight Buffy and uses the power of the Weave to destroy anyone who doesn't love Whedon and Greenwood's works.


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Just so long as I get my Jedi Harem of 7 sisters, sure why not I'll save Star Wars too.


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Brains!!!

And moody acceptance!!!

Need scenes to show off my moody acceptance of my lot in life.

Good thing I've got friends, with delicious brains....


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In all seriousness...I think after Whedon's Marvel experience he wants to stay far far away from any big properties where he wouldn't have total control.


MMCJawa wrote:
In all seriousness...I think after Whedon's Marvel experience he wants to stay far far away from any big properties where he wouldn't have total control.

whedon wanting total control? The heck you say....


True. Better to have a committee of the financiers decide what should go in the movies. Then we wouldn't have to deal with Whedonisms.


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Hama wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Hama wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Matrix Dragon wrote:
Heh, I actually enjoyed watching Avatar in 3D. I think it added a lot to the movie.
IMO the 3d and visual effects were the only memorable thing about the movie. It was almost insultingly bland and forgettable otherwise.
Except for Quaritch.

Who?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't remember who you're talking about)
The badass bad guy leader with bleached hair, scarred face and so much testosterone oozing out of him that people around him go bald from exposure.

I remember there was a boring stereotypical military baddie.

See, what I remember about the movie is Dances with Giant Smurfs, silly brainmelding, stunning visuals and pathetic military.
The people were a faceless blur of boredom.

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I thought the brain melding was cool. The idea of an entire ecosystem evolved (or designed!?) around touch telepathy/mental connectivity? I'm so into that, and if the sequels ever happen, I hope they pick up on that thread and explore it further.

And Quaritch was awesome.

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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Hama wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Hama wrote:
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
Matrix Dragon wrote:
Heh, I actually enjoyed watching Avatar in 3D. I think it added a lot to the movie.
IMO the 3d and visual effects were the only memorable thing about the movie. It was almost insultingly bland and forgettable otherwise.
Except for Quaritch.

Who?

(No, I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly don't remember who you're talking about)
The badass bad guy leader with bleached hair, scarred face and so much testosterone oozing out of him that people around him go bald from exposure.

I remember there was a boring stereotypical military baddie.

See, what I remember about the movie is Dances with Giant Smurfs, silly brainmelding, stunning visuals and pathetic military.
The people were a faceless blur of boredom.

Watch the movie again. The dude is awesome.

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Polite Reminder this is The Force Awakens thread.

Character posters for The Force Awakens.

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The only human character I remember at all from Avatar was Sigourney Weaver, and I don't even remember her character's name.

The main character I vaguely recall but his alien duplicate got more screentime.

I remember none of the villains.

I do agree that the idea of the plug-and-play flora and fauna was interesting, and I was hoping we'd get more details on that than we did. Unfortunately the move spent a little too much time on anvilizing its sociopolitical point and not enough time on worldbuilding and backstory.

Sure was pretty about it, though.


baron arem heshvaun wrote:

Polite Reminder this is The Force Awakens thread.

Character posters for The Force Awakens.

Beautiful. Althought they made carrie fisher look way too old.

Please god, don't let this movie suck.


Freehold DM wrote:
Please God, don't let this movie suck.

Be at Peace MY friend Freehold, I have been buttering MY Holy popcorn since 1983.

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Freehold DM wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:

Polite Reminder this is The Force Awakens thread.

Character posters for The Force Awakens.

Beautiful. Althought they made carrie fisher look way too old.

Please god, don't let this movie suck.

Carrie Fisher is old. They just made her her age.


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Hama wrote:
Carrie Fisher is old. They just made her her age.

She's NOT OLD! She just leveled! When partying through the 80's and 90's you have been, look not as good you will!

Now my lawn, GET OFF!

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Why is being old a bad thing o great grognard?

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GreyWolfLord wrote:
Am I one of the people that actually liked Avatar as a movie (with or without the 3d?). I am hoping Avatar 2 takes 3d into space more though, and gives us an absolutely spectacular 3d space battle!

I was fond of it. But some successful things are super-trendy to dislike (like Linkin Park, which hit some strange critical mass of popularity that made everyone suddenly say they hated them, which I never understood. The same thing happened to Nickelback, which also puzzled me, since I always hated them, and the people who used to try to convince me they were awesome were now telling me how much they sucked...).

Some times I knee-jerkedly don't like what everyone else likes (Avengers 2, blech). Other times I equally perversely like what everyone else dislikes (Brussel sprouts, yum!). It's so hard being a special snowflake these days when everyone else is trying to be a unique non-conformist, too, just like the rest of us. :)


Set wrote:

Some times I knee-jerkedly don't like what everyone else likes (Avengers 2, blech). Other times I equally perversely like what everyone else dislikes (Brussel sprouts, yum!). It's so hard being a special snowflake these days when everyone else is trying to be a unique non-conformist, too, just like the rest of us. :)

I always knew we got along well for a reason.


Avengers 2 was so much wasted film compared to what it could have been. le sigh


Turin the Mad wrote:
Avengers 2 was so much wasted film compared to what it could have been. le sigh

:-D

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Wow ... remember when this thread was about the new Star Wars movie? It even says so in the thread's title.

Boy I sure miss those days ... sigh ...

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Fine, here is some new about the New Star Wars movie.

A terminally ill Star Wars fan, who has been given just a few months to live, was granted his wish to see the new The Force Awakens film on Thursday, nearly two months before it comes out in cinemas.

This is just so nice of them to do. Cancer sucks, and the pain of facing it is unimaginable for those who haven't had to face it or had a family member who has.

For the rest of us, a new international trailer give the message
Hope is not lost today, it is found.


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
sets thread on fire, make sure baronaremhashevaum escapes while others are trapped with in the conflagration

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Soon we will see the end of this pitiful Whedon mania.

Say what you want, Whedon would've killed Spock and Kirk with radiation poisoning.

And Uhura would have killed Khan.

EDIT: Which woulda been kinda bad ass...


Hama wrote:
Why is being old a bad thing o great grognard?

Why it's bad to be old? Let me tell you why, young whippersnapper! You know how dogs lift their leg when they pee, right? Well, as it turns out, there are squirrels who do that too. At least we had them when I was a kid. Then, of course, came the war, and...

...

Well. Time for a nap.

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So after seeing the newest trailer, I think that Rei's staff is maybe an electrostaff, and she'll fight off Kylo with it at some point. Then she'll find a wicked ass Bastilla / Maul double saber and wreck shop.

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I have to say, the more I see of BB-8 the more I like his little rolling butt. His synthesized duck chip "voice" is adorable.

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Kryzbyn wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
sets thread on fire, make sure baronaremhashevaum escapes while others are trapped with in the conflagration

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Soon we will see the end of this pitiful Whedon mania.

Say what you want, Whedon would've killed Spock and Kirk with radiation poisoning.

And Uhura would have killed Khan.

EDIT: Which woulda been kinda bad ass...

He wouldn't have killed Kirk or Spock. Don't be rediculous.

He'd have killed Scotty or Checkov.

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I like the rumor, even if it's not true;

Spoiler:
That Luke may have turned to the dark side, and be fated to die in this movie. Though I'm not 100% convinced that 'dark side' automatically means 'evil.' (Just as Jedi didn't always seem to be automatically good guys, it being sort of half-and-half between 'good guy / bad guy' and 'Law vs. Chaos / Vorlon vs. Shadow / authoritarian control-freaks vs. just want to watch the world burn.')

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Imbicatus wrote:

a new international trailer give the message

Hope is not lost today, it is found.

Well this is Amazing!

And it's Japanese.

By my Japanese to Freehold makes an inspired comment calculations Freehold should make an appearance in 3... 2... 1...

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archmagi1 wrote:
I think that Rei's staff is maybe an electrostaff

I think is a plasteel staff which she personally modified.

She seems to have a knack for building gadgets, and is on a dessert world.

Where did we see all that before?

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"Hope is not lost today, it is found."

So its a New Hope. ;)


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baron arem heshvaun wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:

a new international trailer give the message

Hope is not lost today, it is found.

Well this is Amazing!

And it's Japanese.

By my Japanese to Freehold makes an inspired comment calculations Freehold should make an appearance in 3... 2... 1...

Greatest. Preview. Ever.


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Jedi are control freaks who learn from a very early age to shut out everything that looks like feelings. Every feeling leads to the dark side. Dark side force users (loath to use Sith here) are ruled by their emotions and desires.

Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force. It may be that he did so by getting a son. Luke was in a pretty good situation to do so: He got a normal upbringing, and faced both jedi training and what he saw of the dark side as an adult. Further, he was the ONLY force user around, and it is reasonable to think he would build something which focused on a balanced person as a force user. Of course, if he goes down the dark side route and dies, this has to be further postponed...

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Sissyl wrote:

Jedi are control freaks who learn from a very early age to shut out everything that looks like feelings. Every feeling leads to the dark side. Dark side force users (loath to use Sith here) are ruled by their emotions and desires.

Anakin was supposed to bring balance to the force.

And he did. There were two or three Sith, and a hundred or so Jedi. When Anakin was done, there were two or three Sith, and two or three surviving Jedi. Ta da! Balance!

Probably not what Mace Windu was hoping for... :)

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Further, he was the ONLY force user around, and it is reasonable to think he would build something which focused on a balanced person as a force user. Of course, if he goes down the dark side route and dies, this has to be further postponed...

It is interesting how Jedi kind of swing to the dark side on occasion in the movies.

In Phantom Menace, there's a fight between Qui-Gon and Darth Maul where they get separated by force fields during the fight, and Qui-Gon plotzes down and starts meditating, because he's all Light Side and focused on controlling his feelings, while Darth Maul is pacing and keeping his fury stoked, because his Dark Side power is centered around anger and rage and he can't afford to 'calm down,' as it will weaken him.

And then Obi-Wan gets into it, and he's totally berserk, and beats Darth Maul down *using his anger* over Qui-Gon's death, so that, even if Darth Maul pretty brutally lost that fight, it was because Obi-Wan totally gave in to the Dark Side. Which might have made him a poor choice to be Anakin's teacher, since he's already seen how surrendering to violent angry emotions can make one a stronger fighter...

I would kind of like if someday the Star Wars / Force notion evolved past the 'X emotions are good / Y emotions are bad' silliness. Hope can be bad, when it results in someone spending their rent money on lottery tickets. Fear can be good, when it results in someone behaving cautiously and *not* getting themselves and others killed through reckless action. Acceptance can be bad, when it leads an oppressed people to stay in an abusive or threatening situation. Anger can be good, when it moves people to take action against something (like, yanno, Hitler) who *needs* to have action taken against it.

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the Dark Side. Maybe sometimes we need a little dark side, and it's not healthy or balanced to shut out perfectly good survival instincts, *or* to totally surrender to them, but better to find a balance between control and passion?

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Set wrote:
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the Dark Side. Maybe sometimes we need a little dark side, and it's not healthy or balanced to shut out perfectly good survival instincts, *or* to totally surrender to them, but better to find a balance between control and passion?

Luke defeated his father by using his emotions on board the Death Star II, so there is some rational to that.

Walk the fine line between The Light Side and The Dark Side.

I'm sure many a fallen Jedi over the eons thought the same way.

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I'm pretty sure Luke will be some sort of grey side force witch who has both mastered the light and controlled the dark. Yoda may have started Luke along the Jedi path, but by the time that Jedi rolled around, the fact that Luke was a full adult when starting training definitely exposed him to more easily slipping to DS force. Luke never was a "jedi" per se, the entire religion was decimated, and the one priest left alive at his time probably still considered him a padawan when he vanished into thin air. Uninitiated force adept with half the Jedi training then goes and spends an undetermined (presumably at least a few days) undergoing DS indoctrination by Vader and Palpatine before the rebels attack and he has to make his decision. He now also only has the bare smacklings of how to channel his emotions into pure power.

So Luke, half-ass padawan, half-ass sith inductee, now has a trist with some mandalorian babe (begetting Rey, no way Han and Leia just orphan a kid, especially as well connected Leia is. hell maybe twins and Kylo is Vader's grandson too.), then goes off to beyond the outer rim to study both Sith and Jedi holocrons, becoming a transcendent force user. Not a ascetic Jedi, not a megalomaniac Sith, but a force witch, waiting on a few souls with enough force attunement to come find him so he can begin training the next generation of Grey Side warriors.

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Well, it's Legends stuff, but...

Consider that the 'modern' Jedi and Sith are both... perversions of the original philosophy of the Je'daii Order. The Sith blatantly and the Jedi subtlely so.

For comparison:

The Sith Code
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

The 'modern' Jedi Code
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.

The 'original' Jedi Code
Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet the Force.

The Je'daii Code
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no fear; there is power.
I am the heart of the Force.
I am the revealing fire of light.
I am the mystery of darkness
In balance with chaos and harmony,
Immortal in the Force.


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I'd like to see the Voss Mystics brought into the new continuity. The idea of a species led by Grey Force users who refused to acknowledge the Sith/Jedi dichotomy always appealed to me.

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