Arcanist my first full caster.


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Ok so I have never played a full caster before, that is to say a 9th level spell caster. The furthest I have ever played is a Bard, with 6th level spell casting.

Now the race I am gonna play is tied up right with the the Samsaran or the Dreamscarred Press's Elan.
The two choices are very nice each and come with serious upsides.

Samsaren alternate racial trait allows you to pick a spell list and steal spells from it to add o your own spell list. The +2 Int and Wis is nice, Wis is a dump stat but the boost is nice, the -2 Con sucks as it makes you more of glass canon but it works fairly well.

Elan are basically immortals so you get the pseudo-lich feel already but due to that you could play one who is Venerable Age which never takes the physical downsides and has a floating +2

We roll for stats (4d6, Drop the Lowest, Reroll 1s)
I figured
Str: 10
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 20 (18+2)
Wis: 12
Cha: 18

I put the 18s in Cha and Int due to well spells and DCs and the DCs of the Exploits if I take those, if not I am just that damn goodlooking.

Which race is a better fit? The spell stealing is awesome but the additional +3 is cool, being able to go without food or drink is awesome too in the right situations.


Take the Elan.

I would also really look at the Cha. I play one and use cha. as a dump stat. It dose not hurt as long as you do not want any of the exploits that require it.


Minos Judge wrote:

Take the Elan.

I would also really look at the Cha. I play one and use cha. as a dump stat. It dose not hurt as long as you do not want any of the exploits that require it.

I considered putting the second 18 to Dex, I may. Elan would put even a 14 to a 17 which is a +3 so it would work I think.


Imo the arcanist exploits that depend on Cha for DC aren't that great and shouldn't be high on your priorities list. I'd probably switch Cha and Dex for better reflex saves, AC, initiative and ranged touch attacks. What level would you be going to and have you considered any archetypes?


Not sure yet, its a homebrew campaign and I think I will switch it around.
We start at level 1.


As others have stated, the Arcanist is not as MAD as it should be because the charisma-based exploits are very lack luster.

As for the race, I'd probably take Samsaran. I know the GM's I play with (including myself) would see cheese if you showed up with a venerable Elan.


Arachnofiend wrote:

As others have stated, the Arcanist is not as MAD as it should be because the charisma-based exploits are very lack luster.

As for the race, I'd probably take Samsaran. I know the GM's I play with (including myself) would see cheese if you showed up with a venerable Elan.

With the Samsaran though you can cheese it very easily by taking spells from any arcane spell list such as the Bard or Summoner to get spells earlier on the Arcanist.


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First thing you should do is go through all the exploits and note which ones look interesting.

Mark the ones that you most want for your build, and the ones that utilize Charisma. Not all of them even use Charisma.

Now looking at that list, decide if there is any need for Charisma. It is quite likely a 14 Charisma is sufficient even if you have a couple of exploits using it.

Move the 18 to Con for Fortitude saves and HP.

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