Mount as part of 'you'


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So I'd like to be a teleported wizard, and the shift power in the teleportation sub-school is really cool, but I want to use a mount, and I'd like it to come with me when I shift. What are some ways to do this? Make my mount considered part of myself for the purposes of shift. Any ideas?


Acquire something that can plane shift with you , like a dragon horse or something?


It's a teleportation effect like dimension door, not plane shift.


Ride your familiar or bonded animal companion. For Shift, that's the only way I know of.


Is there any way to get your familiar to the size large, that is reliable over long periods of time?


Hogeyhead wrote:
Is there any way to get your familiar to the size large, that is reliable over long periods of time?

I don't think so. However, if you have a small sized familiar you can permanently enlarge it making it medium.

Then if you're a small race you're good to go. Else if you're medium you can permanently reduce yourself.

Or you can go with the lazy halfling wizard concept. Basically you're a halfling wizard with an earth elemental familiar shaped like an easy chair. it's not a mount so much as it's just strong enough to carry you around. if it double moves it can go 40' per round, which is respectable. Plus it doesn't get tired.

With some creativity you could do the same thing (theoretically) with an air elemental and go 200' per round. It gets a bit absurd, though legal i think, so check with your DM.


Well the mauler archetype makes a familiar medium at level 3, now what spell do I permanency to make it large? Enlarge person doesn't work does it?


Hogeyhead wrote:
Well the mauler archetype makes a familiar medium at level 3, now what spell do I permanency to make it large? Enlarge person doesn't work does it?

Mauler would be a good way to go then.

Enlarge person does work if you cast the spell because it's your familiar.


Ah cool, thanks.


Actually just mauler and small race would suffice. No additional magic needed.


Would it be legal to use Polymorph any Object to make it something larger?

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alexd1976 wrote:
Would it be legal to use Polymorph any Object to make it something larger?

The mauler archetype is a polymorph effect so it doesn't stack with Enlarge Person. Other than that, there's nothing keeping you from casting Enlarge Person on your familiar as its Share Spells abilities allows it to affect him (assuming you didn't trade that out with a familiar archetype).


With Poly any object you can turn it into whatever you want.


claudekennilol wrote:
The mauler archetype is a polymorph effect

It is unofficially a polymorph effect, but officially it's untyped.


Yeah, I'm thinking just use Polymorph any Object... turn it into something bigger (should be permanent)

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Melkiador wrote:
claudekennilol wrote:
The mauler archetype is a polymorph effect
It is unofficially a polymorph effect, but officially it's untyped.

If it's officially untyped then it officially gets absolutely no ability score changes as there's no chart for untyped size changing. Only changes would be its cmd/cmb/to hit penalty/natural weapon size damage. It wouldn't get any changes to its Dex/Str which is the biggest reason to want it to be a polymorph effect.


This table is untyped:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/monsterAdvancement.html#table-2 -2-size-changes

And if you want to get technical, mauler only calls out the transformation effecting the strength score, so dexterity is not decreased.

Quote:
this stacks with the normal Strength adjustments for increasing in size

I'm of course not suggesting you play it that way. Don't trust in RAW alone.


Melkiador wrote:

This table is untyped:

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/monsterAdvancement.html#table-2 -2-size-changes

That table is for GMs making custom monsters. As far as I know, there is no in game way to access it.

I think it fairly obvious that when a creature changes size (i.e. it is going to another morphology) it would use the table for polymorph.


Using one table is as much of a leap as using the other:
1) The polymorph table can only be used for explicit polymorph effects, or else Enlarge Person would use the table.
2) The Monster Advancement table is primarily for Monster advancement.

The Mauler tells you to adjust your strength for size without telling you what table to use. So both tables are equally valid.

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