Is Dex used to Hit with Ranged weapons?


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I've heard people say this but I can't seem to actually find the written rule anywhere. and I know that it doesn't apply to all ranged weapons like thrown weapons and slings. I also know it doesn't apply to crossbows but does it apply to Firearms, and if it doesn't is there anything which gives you +'s to Firearm Hits?

Grand Lodge

Dex is used to determine your attack roll with all ranged weapons by default, including thrown weapons. From the combat section:

Quote:

Attack Bonus

Your attack bonus with a melee weapon is the following:

Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier

With a ranged weapon, your attack bonus is the following:

Base attack bonus + Dexterity modifier + size modifier + range penalty


Quote:

Attack Bonus

Your attack bonus with a melee weapon is the following:

Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier

With a ranged weapon, your attack bonus is the following:

Base attack bonus + Dexterity modifier + size modifier + range penalty

Source: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/combat.html


Your Google-Fu is embarrassingly weak...

Combat wrote:

Attack Bonus

Your attack bonus with a melee weapon is:

Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier

Your attack bonus with a ranged weapon is:

Base attack bonus + Dexterity modifier + size modifier + range penalty


also listed under the Dexterity (dex) entry, listed on page 16 of CRB.


Leonhart Steelmane wrote:
I've heard people say this but I can't seem to actually find the written rule anywhere. and I know that it doesn't apply to all ranged weapons like thrown weapons and slings. I also know it doesn't apply to crossbows but does it apply to Firearms, and if it doesn't is there anything which gives you +'s to Firearm Hits?

Do you mean 'hit' as in attack roll or 'hit' as in "taking a hit", aka as in damage roll?

Dexterity is normally added to ranged attack rolls, but there are a few ways to use another ability score.

Dexterity is normally not added to ranged damage rolls. If you use a crossbow, a firearm or a normal bow* you don't add any ability modifiers to your damage unless a class feature or alternate rule allows you to do so. However, if you're using a sling or a thrown weapon you add your strength modifier to damage.

*:
If you use a composite longbow you add your strength modifier provided the composite bow has the right strength rating.


Kudaku wrote:
Leonhart Steelmane wrote:
I've heard people say this but I can't seem to actually find the written rule anywhere. and I know that it doesn't apply to all ranged weapons like thrown weapons and slings. I also know it doesn't apply to crossbows but does it apply to Firearms, and if it doesn't is there anything which gives you +'s to Firearm Hits?

Do you mean 'hit' as in attack roll or 'hit' as in "taking a hit", aka as in damage roll?

Dexterity is normally added to ranged attack rolls, but there are a few ways to use another ability score.

Dexterity is normally not added to ranged damage rolls. If you use a crossbow, a firearm or a normal bow* you don't add any ability modifiers to your damage unless a class feature or alternate rule allows you to do so. However, if you're using a sling or a thrown weapon you add your strength modifier to damage.

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I meant Hit as in Attack Roll. sorry, in my mind I think of the attack roll as the hit role, to determine whether it hits, and the damage roll to determine the damage. attack roll seems to vague to me though, now I think about it so does Hit haha.

and thank you and thanks to everyone else for clearing this up for me.


Your google probably failed because you were using hit instead of attack then.


It is applied to attack roll, but not damage roll (unless special conditions like agile weapon or swashbuckler grace or whatever its called).


DarkPhoenixx wrote:
It is applied to attack roll, but not damage roll (unless special conditions like agile weapon or swashbuckler grace or whatever its called).

Neither of those apply to ranged weapons though

Grand Lodge

Claxon wrote:
DarkPhoenixx wrote:
It is applied to attack roll, but not damage roll (unless special conditions like agile weapon or swashbuckler grace or whatever its called).
Neither of those apply to ranged weapons though

But the fifth level Gunslinger ability does.


kinevon wrote:
Claxon wrote:
DarkPhoenixx wrote:
It is applied to attack roll, but not damage roll (unless special conditions like agile weapon or swashbuckler grace or whatever its called).
Neither of those apply to ranged weapons though
But the fifth level Gunslinger ability does.

Yes, there are a limited number of ways to get dex to damage with ranged weapons. Those that come to mind are gunslinger with guns, and bolt ace with crossbows (which also happens to be a gunslinger).

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