Sustained by Faith


Rules Questions


Hello everybody,
I decided to join this forum cause I have a question to ask about "sustained by Faith" mythic ability.

Straight to the point: Does Cleric regain spells using 1 mythic point?

I have a strong feeling about there's an errata corridge, or a mistype if you prefer, in Sustained by Faith description due to the fact that clerics does NOT need 8 hours of resting to regain spells.
Assuming that, the same problem will be again, and again for cleric only, for Recuperation 3rd tier base Mythic ability because spending 1 hour resting to recover (I copy and paste it):
"This rest is treated as 8 hours of sleep for such abilities".

Now again to my main question, for me it's crystal clear that clerics can regain spells/spell slots by spending 1 mythic point and meditating for 1 hour otherwise I'm wondering, why should arcane casters should get this benefit while clerics don't?
Why should the Hyerophant give this big advantage to an arcane caster and not to a more suitable class (i.e. cleric)?
Why should this ability be called Sustained by Faith and give more "sustain" to character classes who are not directly related with faith?

I thank you in advance for all the replies, wich i specify will be always respected but taken as opinions only.
I hopefully wait the answer from an author to this question because, being myself a Roleplayer from over 25 years already gave me my ideas and opinions.

Thank you!

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

Heirophant is the mythic path designed for Divine Casters. It would be unwise mechanically (though wonderful story-wise) to have an arcane caster become a heirophant when Archmage is the path designed for them.

The Sustained By Faith ability says

Mythic Adventures pg35 wrote:
You require no food, water, or sleep. If you have abilities or class features that require rest before they can be regained, you can choose to regain them once per day by spending 1 hour in uninterrupted meditation. If you are 3rd tier or higher, you can expend one use of mythic power in order to also not need to breathe for 24 hours.

This would replenish not only spells, but also Per/day abilities like a Domain Power or Channel Energy uses which do require the cleric to rest. It also makes no mention of an 8 hour rest period.

Recuperation (as a Universal mythic ability) is intended for PCs who aren't Heirophants, and restores HP (which Sustained by Faith does not). The cleric is not denied either ability, and indeed, could take both.


To me, it's not crystal clear that it restores a cleric's spells. There have been plenty of debates on the forums about divine spellcasters and spell preparation. A cleric doesn't regain spells after 8 hours of rest. A cleric regains spells by praying at a specific time of day, chosen at creation. Time spent resting is in the Magic chapter under arcane classes, not divine. Mind, we only had clerics, druids, paladins, and rangers then. So to me, the Sustained by Faith ability would not work; rest isn't required for spell preparation for those classes. It would, however, give them back daily uses of domain powers, as those are generally restored by rest, strangely enough.

Now, what's causing you to create multiple threads in multiple forums about this, hmmm?

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