Fighter - Weapon Training groups


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.

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I think Melee Tactics Toolbox printed updated lists, but I'm not sure.

If not, my advice would be save you obscure dwarven weapons specialist for a home game where the GM can apply some reason to the rules. Not every build is a good fit for PFS. Which is sad, because Dorn Dergars are incredible.

Silver Crusade Contributor

If we're lucky, information on at least one of those might be forthcoming in Inner Sea Races. ^_^


I don't think many dms would balk at putting the helmet in the close weapons group. You can't get closer to a fight than your skull.

If you have fairly regular dm or three ask them and see what they think. Sans a handy rule that i don't think exists its going to be table variation, so ask the tables.


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Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.


Thralleon wrote:

Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.

They were updated in both Ultimate Combat and Ulimate Equipment. I don't see the dorn dergar on those lists, though. (Melee Tactics Toolbox only lists the groups for the new weapons, as far as I can tell.)

Basically, I'd find the closest weapon in style that has a group and then check with your GM before each session. My best guess is meteor hammer, which is in the Flail group. And almost anything with a chain and weight is in the Flail group, anyway. (Remember that weapons can land in more than one group.)

Silver Crusade Contributor

RealAlchemy wrote:
Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.

There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^


Kalindlara wrote:
RealAlchemy wrote:
Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.
There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^

"My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ?


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
RealAlchemy wrote:
Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.
There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^
"My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ?

I actually use them hatefully. It's a half-orc with the racial weapon training boon.

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Today's blog covers which of the newest weapons fall into each weapon category. I don't know how often we'll update it, but it's current up through October 2015's publications.

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