paizo.com Recent Posts in Fighter - Weapon Training groupspaizo.com Recent Posts in Fighter - Weapon Training groups2015-06-13T05:33:31Z2015-06-13T05:33:31ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsJohn Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#102015-10-20T00:50:03Z2015-10-20T00:50:03Z<p><a href="http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5li4u?Weapon-TrainingAnd-So-Many-Weapons" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Today's blog</a> covers which of the newest weapons fall into each weapon category. I don't know how often we'll update it, but it's current up through October 2015's publications.</p>Today's blog covers which of the newest weapons fall into each weapon category. I don't know how often we'll update it, but it's current up through October 2015's publications.John Compton (Starfinder Senior Developer)2015-10-20T00:50:03ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsThralleonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#92015-06-13T23:20:58Z2015-06-13T23:20:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BigNorseWolf wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Kalindlara wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">RealAlchemy wrote:</div><blockquote> Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun. </blockquote>There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^ </blockquote>"My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ? </blockquote><p>I actually use them hatefully. It's a half-orc with the racial weapon training boon.BigNorseWolf wrote:Kalindlara wrote: RealAlchemy wrote: Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.
There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^ "My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ? I actually use them hatefully. It's a half-orc with the racial weapon training boon.Thralleon2015-06-13T23:20:58ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsBigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#82015-06-13T21:11:52Z2015-06-13T21:11:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Kalindlara wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">RealAlchemy wrote:</div><blockquote> Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun. </blockquote>There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^ </blockquote><p>"My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ?Kalindlara wrote:RealAlchemy wrote: Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.
There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^ "My weapons designer, I use it ironically" ?BigNorseWolf2015-06-13T21:11:52ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsKalindlara (Contributor)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#72015-06-13T21:01:39Z2015-06-13T21:01:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">RealAlchemy wrote:</div><blockquote> Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun. </blockquote><p>There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^RealAlchemy wrote:Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.
There's actually some precedent for this - the Elven Weapon Training feat. Or whatever its name is. ^_^Kalindlara (Contributor)2015-06-13T21:01:39ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsGwen Smithhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#62015-06-13T17:17:35Z2015-06-13T17:17:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Thralleon wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.
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</blockquote><p>They were updated in both <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/classArchetypes/fighter.html#expanded-weapon-groups" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ultimate Combat</a> and <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateEquipment/armsAndArmor/weapons.html#fighter-weapon-groups" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Ulimate Equipment</a>. I don't see the dorn dergar on those lists, though. (Melee Tactics Toolbox only lists the groups for the new weapons, as far as I can tell.)
<p>Basically, I'd find the closest weapon in style that has a group and then check with your GM before each session. My best guess is <a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/combat/easternArmorAndWeapons.html#meteor-hammer" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">meteor hammer</a>, which is in the Flail group. And almost anything with a chain and weight is in the Flail group, anyway. (Remember that weapons can land in more than one group.)</p>Thralleon wrote:Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.
They were updated in both Ultimate Combat and Ulimate Equipment. I don't see the dorn dergar on those lists, though. (Melee Tactics Toolbox only lists the groups for the new weapons, as far as I can tell.) Basically, I'd find the closest weapon in...Gwen Smith2015-06-13T17:17:35ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsRealAlchemyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#52018-07-04T16:38:34Z2015-06-13T15:14:20Z<p>Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.</p>Here's hoping racial weapons become a weapon group. A fighter themed around all dwarven or all elven weapons could be fun.RealAlchemy2015-06-13T15:14:20ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsBigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#42015-06-13T10:12:26Z2015-06-13T10:12:26Z<p>I don't think many dms would balk at putting the helmet in the close weapons group. You can't get closer to a fight than your skull.</p>
<p>If you have fairly regular dm or three ask them and see what they think. Sans a handy rule that i don't think exists its going to be table variation, so ask the tables.</p>I don't think many dms would balk at putting the helmet in the close weapons group. You can't get closer to a fight than your skull.
If you have fairly regular dm or three ask them and see what they think. Sans a handy rule that i don't think exists its going to be table variation, so ask the tables.BigNorseWolf2015-06-13T10:12:26ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsKalindlara (Contributor)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#32015-06-13T05:17:31Z2015-06-13T05:17:31Z<p>If we're lucky, information on at least one of those might be forthcoming in Inner Sea Races. ^_^</p>If we're lucky, information on at least one of those might be forthcoming in Inner Sea Races. ^_^Kalindlara (Contributor)2015-06-13T05:17:31ZRe: Forums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsVictor Zajic (alias of JOHN DICKERSON)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#22015-06-12T22:01:29Z2015-06-12T22:01:29Z<p>I think Melee Tactics Toolbox printed updated lists, but I'm not sure.</p>
<p>If not, my advice would be save you obscure dwarven weapons specialist for a home game where the GM can apply some reason to the rules. Not every build is a good fit for PFS. Which is sad, because Dorn Dergars are incredible.</p>I think Melee Tactics Toolbox printed updated lists, but I'm not sure.
If not, my advice would be save you obscure dwarven weapons specialist for a home game where the GM can apply some reason to the rules. Not every build is a good fit for PFS. Which is sad, because Dorn Dergars are incredible.Victor Zajic (alias of JOHN DICKERSON)2015-06-12T22:01:29ZForums/Pathfinder First Edition: General Discussion: Fighter - Weapon Training groupsThralleonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scn5?Fighter-Weapon-Training-groups#12015-06-13T05:33:31Z2015-06-12T19:32:29Z<p>Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.</p>Is there some place where weapon training groups are regularly updated? I have a PC who's using a dorn dergar and a boulder helmet and can't find an official listing beyond the core book listing that GM's can add to these groups.Thralleon2015-06-12T19:32:29Z