Charge + Enforcer + Blade of Mercy + Hurtful, and bonus Pounce question.


Rules Questions


First off can you charge for non-lethal?

Secondly If I can charge for non-lethal, assuming I hit with a slashing weapon, with Enforcer, Blade of Mercy, and Hurtful, I get a free intimidate, assuming that is successful I get another attack as a swift via Hurtful.

Am I doing this correctly?

Thirdly, I am 99% sure I do not get the +2 to hit bonus on the swift attack, but not 100%, anyone know? Is that considered apart of the charge?

Fourthly, with Charge and Pounce do all the pounce attacks get the +2, and any other effects the alter charges? The pounce would be from a Tengus rogue archetype, swordmaster, via a trance, that also had the Scout archetype granting sneak attacks during a charge.

Sovereign Court

1st - yes

2nd - yes (good combo)

3rd - debatable - expect table variation

4th - you'd get the +2 to hit for all attacks on the pounce

Grand Lodge

I would say to expect table variation on the 4th part. There are different inturpretations on how pounce interacts with charge abilities and with the +2 to hit.

The basis of this is normally a debate around what a 'charge attack' is, verses the FAQ related to Lance Charges and Pounce.


Another follow-up question, pertaining to #2, but I use cleave instead of charge. If I use cleave as non-lethal and hit, granting me a free intimidate as well as a free attack which occurs first?

Assuming the swift attack hits is it cleave-able because it was derived from the initial cleave? If ye, but cleave only allows one additional attack, would greater cleave make a difference for the swift?

I'm going to assume no on the swift-able cleave but not 100%.

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