Fey Foundling+Reward of Life=?


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So Fey Foundling says whenever you receive magical healing of any kind you gain an additional 2 life per die rolled. So if I receive magical healing from Reward of Life equal to my cha mod but the dice rolled go to the target of lay on hands, do I still get the 2 life per die rolled?

Personally I think that it would work, simply because of the fact that the healing you receive from Reward of life comes from your Lay on Hands which is also the source of the dice rolled. Not to mention the fact that Fey Foundling does not say that you specifically must be the target of the rolled dice, all it requires is that you were healed magically and dice were rolled for healing by that same source.


Grimboldorf wrote:

So Fey Foundling says whenever you receive magical healing of any kind you gain an additional 2 life per die rolled. So if I receive magical healing from Reward of Life equal to my cha mod but the dice rolled go to the target of lay on hands, do I still get the 2 life per die rolled?

Personally I think that it would work, simply because of the fact that the healing you receive from Reward of life comes from your Lay on Hands which is also the source of the dice rolled. Not to mention the fact that Fey Foundling does not say that you specifically must be the target of the rolled dice, all it requires is that you were healed magically and dice were rolled for healing by that same source.

Here's why I would say no:

Assume that both the target and the paladin had Fey Foundling. Which one gets the 2 extra healing per die rolled? I would think it was for sure the target, as they were actually healed by the dice rolled, whereas the healer was healed by Reward of Life instead.


Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Grimboldorf wrote:

So Fey Foundling says whenever you receive magical healing of any kind you gain an additional 2 life per die rolled. So if I receive magical healing from Reward of Life equal to my cha mod but the dice rolled go to the target of lay on hands, do I still get the 2 life per die rolled?

Personally I think that it would work, simply because of the fact that the healing you receive from Reward of life comes from your Lay on Hands which is also the source of the dice rolled. Not to mention the fact that Fey Foundling does not say that you specifically must be the target of the rolled dice, all it requires is that you were healed magically and dice were rolled for healing by that same source.

Here's why I would say no:

Assume that both the target and the paladin had Fey Foundling. Which one gets the 2 extra healing per die rolled? I would think it was for sure the target, as they were actually healed by the dice rolled, whereas the healer was healed by Reward of Life instead.

Well if they both had Fey Foundling wouldn't they both get it, since one spell healed both of them and it rolled dice? I am suggesting this because Fey Foundling does not require a target, it only requires the conditions to be met which they are for both players. Also lets say there was a circumstance where you were hit with magical healing and dice were rolled but do to some reason or another you get no healing from the dice, even then you would still get the healing from Fey Foundling.


Grimboldorf wrote:
Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Grimboldorf wrote:

So Fey Foundling says whenever you receive magical healing of any kind you gain an additional 2 life per die rolled. So if I receive magical healing from Reward of Life equal to my cha mod but the dice rolled go to the target of lay on hands, do I still get the 2 life per die rolled?

Personally I think that it would work, simply because of the fact that the healing you receive from Reward of life comes from your Lay on Hands which is also the source of the dice rolled. Not to mention the fact that Fey Foundling does not say that you specifically must be the target of the rolled dice, all it requires is that you were healed magically and dice were rolled for healing by that same source.

Here's why I would say no:

Assume that both the target and the paladin had Fey Foundling. Which one gets the 2 extra healing per die rolled? I would think it was for sure the target, as they were actually healed by the dice rolled, whereas the healer was healed by Reward of Life instead.

Well if they both had Fey Foundling wouldn't they both get it, since one spell healed both of them and it rolled dice? I am suggesting this because Fey Foundling does not require a target, it only requires the conditions to be met which they are for both players. Also lets say there was a circumstance where you were hit with magical healing and dice were rolled but do to some reason or another you get no healing from the dice, even then you would still get the healing from Fey Foundling.

I'm sure we could also come up with circumstances where, say, someone casts cure light wounds on you and then six other people attempt Spellcraft checks to identify the spell and then we could try to say "well 6 die were rolled during that healing." Due to the passive voice, we're left filling in the blanks of what "die rolled" means, and I'm saying that, for me anyway, the natural reading for me is "die of healing that just applied to your hp."


Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Grimboldorf wrote:
Rogue Eidolon wrote:
Grimboldorf wrote:

So Fey Foundling says whenever you receive magical healing of any kind you gain an additional 2 life per die rolled. So if I receive magical healing from Reward of Life equal to my cha mod but the dice rolled go to the target of lay on hands, do I still get the 2 life per die rolled?

Personally I think that it would work, simply because of the fact that the healing you receive from Reward of life comes from your Lay on Hands which is also the source of the dice rolled. Not to mention the fact that Fey Foundling does not say that you specifically must be the target of the rolled dice, all it requires is that you were healed magically and dice were rolled for healing by that same source.

Here's why I would say no:

Assume that both the target and the paladin had Fey Foundling. Which one gets the 2 extra healing per die rolled? I would think it was for sure the target, as they were actually healed by the dice rolled, whereas the healer was healed by Reward of Life instead.

Well if they both had Fey Foundling wouldn't they both get it, since one spell healed both of them and it rolled dice? I am suggesting this because Fey Foundling does not require a target, it only requires the conditions to be met which they are for both players. Also lets say there was a circumstance where you were hit with magical healing and dice were rolled but do to some reason or another you get no healing from the dice, even then you would still get the healing from Fey Foundling.
I'm sure we could also come up with circumstances where, say, someone casts cure light wounds on you and then six other people attempt Spellcraft checks to identify the spell and then we could try to say "well 6 die were rolled during that healing." Due to the passive voice, we're left filling in the blanks of what "die rolled" means, and I'm saying that, for me anyway, the natural reading for me is "die of healing that just applied to your hp."

That is how I read it as well, but after that I found Reward of Life and it really made me do a double take at Fey Foundling. Either way it will most likely end up being one of those things that is up to the GM.


Reward of Life still seems to be giving you magical healing, but with no dice I can't see how it'd trigger Foundling. It seems to be an effect independent of Lay on Hands itself.

Silver Crusade

Correct me if I am wrong, but the healing the Paladin gets is an amount equal to the Charisma Bonus?

That is not a number of dice equal to the Charisma Bonus.

Based upon that, since the healing the Paladin gets is not based upon dice, then only the target of the lay on hands gets the +2 per dice.

Same kind of logic as Infernal Healing. Infernal Healing does not use dice, just a flat number of hit points per round, so Fey Foundling does not apply.

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