I need help figuring out how to join an online game


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I read through what I could find but had some questions before I could try joining.

1) When a game lists G+, does that mean you have to have voice, or is just text OK. I am getting that it means using the Google Hangout, which I've never used, to communicate. But it says there that you can either use chat or voice. If the GM does not specify, does it mean you can use either or work or is it assumed you will use only voice? And if you want to use voice, do you need a microphone or can you call in on a phone - how does that work? I'll buy a headset if needed, but I'd like to try a game first before I spend $30 on it.

2) I have all my characters in MS Word or RTF, but I use my own format. When a GM wants a digital copy of a character, what should I use? I considered printing out a standard PFS character sheet, filling it out, then scanning it in as an image. Would that work? roll20 advertised a character sheet but when I want to use it, it required supportership/money. Is there a free fillable character sheet out there that a GM would take? Every time I think I've found one it either does not work or it costs money.

Dark Archive 4/5 Venture-Agent, Maryland— Baltimore aka DrParty06

1) It is using voice and is pretty much a requirement to use voice. Using text only severely decreases the pace of the game. A microphone on a laptop or iPad/headset is the most commonly used method, though you could paste the link into the Hangouts app on a phone and probably have that work ok. The key is at least having headphones with some form of microphone, so there is no feedback.

2) Most of the time GMs for online games don't request a character sheet. If they do, it's likely they won't care about the format as long as you have everything present, and are following the rules with your bonuses, feat selection, etc.


Thanks.

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Online aka IronHelixx

Howdy - Welcome to online play.

As a follow up to DrParty06...

1) If the game lists a G+ Hangout it will require voice. You can find info on Hangouts here: http://www.google.com/+/learnmore/hangouts

And you can get an acceptable headset with mic for ~ $15 USD on Amazon.com, or most local "Big Box" stores.

It is best to try out your hangouts and headset ahead of time, so you are not fiddling with things and trying to make them work at game time.

There are ways to test your setup solo, but if you need help testing things, drop us an email HERE and we can help you out.

Also, There are a lot of good tutorials on Roll20.net on Youtube.com and elsewhere, but we can also help walk you through that too, if you like.

2) MythWeavers has a free online Pathfinder Character sheet you can find here - that is a good way to share character sheets when asked for one:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetindex.php

You may also be asked for your chronicle sheets as well. It is a good idea to scan those and make them available in a shared Dropbox folder, or a shared Google Drive folder, so you can share them with GMs online.

If you have any questions at all with online play, feel free to drop us a line any time HERE and we can help you out.

Best of luck and have fun.

- Jesse [IronHelixx]
PFS VC, Online Play

PS - Another way to test Hangouts before spending money is to use your tablet or phone (over wifi) for just the hangout with a set of earbuds so there is no feedback. And then use you PC for the VTT. The quality is usually lower with this method, but it is a way to start until you get the rest of your setup.

miteke wrote:

I read through what I could find but had some questions before I could try joining.

1) When a game lists G+, does that mean you have to have voice, or is just text OK. I am getting that it means using the Google Hangout, which I've never used, to communicate. But it says there that you can either use chat or voice. If the GM does not specify, does it mean you can use either or work or is it assumed you will use only voice? And if you want to use voice, do you need a microphone or can you call in on a phone - how does that work? I'll buy a headset if needed, but I'd like to try a game first before I spend $30 on it.

2) I have all my characters in MS Word or RTF, but I use my own format. When a GM wants a digital copy of a character, what should I use? I considered printing out a standard PFS character sheet, filling it out, then scanning it in as an image. Would that work? roll20 advertised a character sheet but when I want to use it, it required supportership/money. Is there a free fillable character sheet out there that a GM would take? Every time I think I've found one it either does not work or it costs money.

4/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Tennessee—Nashville aka Wolfspirit

I'll second the "assume that you need a mic" assumption. You could potentially get by without one, but it would severely limit your ability to participate in RP. There always is Play By Post, which is message board based, however.

As for the character sheet, if you have Microsoft Word (not wordpad) you can convert the Word doc into a PDF. PDFs for the character sheet *usually* isn't a requirement, however.

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Online aka IronHelixx

Good point, Michael. And if someone does not have MS Word, they can download LibreOffice as well, and print a MS Word doc, or RTF, to PDF as well.

You can also use something like Hero Lab to track your character sheets and export them out of Hero Lab as PDFs as well.

There are also good Excel file versions of character sheets.

You can also use Google Docs or Google Sheets (Google version of Excel) and share the Character sheet that way.

Lots of different ways to share a sheet.

Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKXKrwlragJ5LzcEk7_S9ipdNfeN1V94a77 7I1AsC9Q/edit#gid=1867984558

Michael Donley wrote:

I'll second the "assume that you need a mic" assumption. You could potentially get by without one, but it would severely limit your ability to participate in RP. There always is Play By Post, which is message board based, however.

As for the character sheet, if you have Microsoft Word (not wordpad) you can convert the Word doc into a PDF. PDFs for the character sheet *usually* isn't a requirement, however.


Jesse Davis wrote:


Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKXKrwlragJ5LzcEk7_S9ipdNfeN1V94a77 7I1AsC9Q/edit#gid=1867984558

I just tried this location and I could not edit anything. How do you use this spreadsheet. I'm doing this on my home computer and I do not have MS Office. Does that matter?

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Online aka IronHelixx

You will have to make a copy of it so you do not mess up the original. Just open it and either download it, or just tell google docs to make a copy of it to your own google account. Rename the sheet to your PCs name and then you can edit it. If you need more help I can do a step-by-step how-to when I get home later.

miteke wrote:
Jesse Davis wrote:


Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKXKrwlragJ5LzcEk7_S9ipdNfeN1V94a77 7I1AsC9Q/edit#gid=1867984558
I just tried this location and I could not edit anything. How do you use this spreadsheet. I'm doing this on my home computer and I do not have MS Office. Does that matter?


Jesse Davis wrote:


2) MythWeavers has a free online Pathfinder Character sheet you can find here - that is a good way to share character sheets when asked for one:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetindex.php

I created an account on Mythweavers, and went to http://www.myth-weavers.com/wiki/index.php/Help:Myth-Weavers:Character_Shee ts (the link you gave me did not get me to a character sheet). then I went to the PFS template and got another non-editable sheet. So frustrating.


I tried downloading but that did not work. I tried copying as you suggested and that DID work. I'm not too familiar with Google so I have to get used to the way Google stores things.

Well, I'm going to play with and and see how it goes. I'll let you know. Thanks for the help.

Jesse Davis wrote:

You will have to make a copy of it so you do not mess up the original. Just open it and either download it, or just tell google docs to make a copy of it to your own google account. Rename the sheet to your PCs name and then you can edit it. If you need more help I can do a step-by-step how-to when I get home later.

miteke wrote:
Jesse Davis wrote:


Example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uKXKrwlragJ5LzcEk7_S9ipdNfeN1V94a77 7I1AsC9Q/edit#gid=1867984558
I just tried this location and I could not edit anything. How do you use this spreadsheet. I'm doing this on my home computer and I do not have MS Office. Does that matter?

Liberty's Edge 5/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Online aka IronHelixx

Sorry, I accidentally included the old link - The correct link for Mythweaver Sheets should be:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheets

Just go to "New Sheet"

Fill in the Character Name, "Yes" for Public (so you can share it), and Choose "Pathfinder" as the template, and then hit "Create Sheet"

You should then see that PC in your dashboard.

Click the name and it will take you to the editable form for the character sheet.

You should then be good to go.

miteke wrote:
Jesse Davis wrote:


2) MythWeavers has a free online Pathfinder Character sheet you can find here - that is a good way to share character sheets when asked for one:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetindex.php

I created an account on Mythweavers, and went to http://www.myth-weavers.com/wiki/index.php/Help:Myth-Weavers:Character_Shee ts (the link you gave me did not get me to a character sheet). then I went to the PFS template and got another non-editable sheet. So frustrating.


I got the google spreadsheet to work. Other than not knowing what I put where (such as spells vs automated spells) it is working out fine. Pretty much what I needed. Thanks all. Now to get a headset and join a game!

Silver Crusade 2/5

If you are willing to spend a bit more on a headset, check out the "Logitech Wireless Headset H600 Over-The-Head Design" on amazon.com. I have found it to be an outstanding headset.

You could also save your own character sheet as a PDF, and email that if the GM requests it. Pretty much everyone should have at least basic Adobe reader on their PC. And, this format can be used on an iPad with a PDF reader, if you're into that sort of thing.

Game on!
- Corey


Thanks. I have a readable character sheet I can send. I purchased a headset on Amazon. I signed up for one game in the AP Con thing which will be my first attempt. When the headset arrives I need to test things out. How would you recommend doing that? I heard I'll need a token. I read something about setting up macros. Is that a good idea? The event I signed up for has a pool of 36 players and 6 GMs or I'd send an email to the GM. Will the GM walk me through things or is is expected that I'll know my head from my nether regions?

Sovereign Court Venture-Captain, New Mexico—Roswell aka Rob Duncan

miteke wrote:
Thanks. I have a readable character sheet I can send. I purchased a headset on Amazon. I signed up for one game in the AP Con thing which will be my first attempt. When the headset arrives I need to test things out. How would you recommend doing that? I heard I'll need a token. I read something about setting up macros. Is that a good idea? The event I signed up for has a pool of 36 players and 6 GMs or I'd send an email to the GM. Will the GM walk me through things or is is expected that I'll know my head from my nether regions?

Mike,

I'm a VC in Tulsa and am running an online game 6/17.
http://paizo.com/events/v5748mkg0b5xd
https://warhorn.net/events/tulsa-pfs-online
Log in with teamspeak3: pathfinder.typefrag.com:9975

You're welcome to try out your gear in teamspeak and Roll20.net or you're welcome to join as a player. I have six slots open as of 7pm today and run a new player friendly table.

Best,
Rob


I happen to have played Emerald Spire 1 & 2. Speaking of which I need to get my venture captain to clean that up since it says I played level 1 twice! Ugh.

Anyway, is Teamspeak like Google Hangout/Google+? I may pop in just to give joining a Roll20 session a try.

Grand Lodge 4/5 Venture-Agent, Nevada—Las Vegas aka kinevon

miteke wrote:

I happen to have played Emerald Spire 1 & 2. Speaking of which I need to get my venture captain to clean that up since it says I played level 1 twice! Ugh.

Anyway, is Teamspeak like Google Hangout/Google+? I may pop in just to give joining a Roll20 session a try.

Team Speak is a separate application, where Google Hangouts is basically a plugin for your web browser.

Vocie options, variable by GM:
Google Hangouts
Skype
TeamSpeak
Roll20's own voice channels

I think there may be others, but those are the most commonly used,in my experience

VTTs:
Roll20
Fantasy Grounds 2
MapTools
D20Pro

Others are also used, but those are, in my experience, the most common.

Tokens are easy to come by, just use a search engine's Images option, and search for something like your PC:
Pathfinder Fighter Images
Pathfinder Halfling Bard Images
Etc.

Many GMs are willing to supply a generic token, as well.

One thing you can do, by the way, is use Skype's self-test function to verify headset and microphone.

On the "played level 1 twice" thing, it is probably a hangover from an issue caused during the reporting change needed to support Core mode. I have to crosscheck a table I found I still had a copy of against my GM listing on Paizo's site, to see what needs to be fixed to get it back to correct, myself. Unfortunately, I know that some of the items needing to be fixed were not reported by me...


So I got my headset, downloaded google+/hangout and launched it. Got confused at that point. It allowed me to create a hangout and presented a pretty window with lots for dressing but I could not find any way to test the audio and I have no webcam for video. Also not sure how to get roll20 and hangout to work in tandem.

Dark Archive 4/5 Venture-Agent, Maryland— Baltimore aka DrParty06

miteke wrote:
So I got my headset, downloaded google+/hangout and launched it. Got confused at that point. It allowed me to create a hangout and presented a pretty window with lots for dressing but I could not find any way to test the audio and I have no webcam for video. Also not sure how to get roll20 and hangout to work in tandem.

To make sure your audio settings are all good, start a Hangout then click on the gear icon at the top. Use the play test sound to make sure it's going into your headset and make sure you have external mic selected. That should get you completely setup there.

Running Roll20 and Hangouts at the same time is as simple as having 2 browser windows open 1 with Roll20 that you're looking at in the foreground and 1 with the hangout that you don't need to see in the background. For a game, this will generally manifest as you being given the Roll20 link for the specific table and then a Hangout link will be posted in the Roll20 chat for you to join once the people playing the game are present. At that point if you know Pathfinder and know even the basics of Roll20 you're good to go.

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