Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Seattle
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Also, if you were left behind, but stabilised, you'd eventually heal naturally and regain consciousness. Unless you were stuck on another plane, you should be able to just find your way to the nearest pathfinder lodge?I think then you start get into the rules on healing after you stabalize. Its not automatic that you are going to heal up to the point you are able to walk back. In the worst case scenario you have to make a stablization check to not die, and then make them to become concious and disabled. If you fail that check though you can lose another hitpoint, and so you could still possibly die. For instance if you have a constitution of ten and were at negative nine hit points and stabalized you need to essentially make another stabalization roll in order to become conscious and start healing. If you fail you will lose a hit point and die.
I'm not sure I understand.
If you're at -9 and stabilized, then every 24 hours you'll heal your level in hit points. As long as nothing attacks you again, why would you need another stabilization check?
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I'm not sure I understand.
If you're at -9 and stabilized, then every 24 hours you'll heal your level in hit points. As long as nothing attacks you again, why would you need another stabilization check?
You don't heal naturally if you are at negative hit points and not being helped back to health.
Recovering without Help: A severely wounded character left alone usually dies. He has a small chance of recovering on his own. Treat such characters as those attempting to recover with help, but every failed Constitution check to regain consciousness results in the loss of 1 hit point. An unaided character does not recover hit points naturally. Once conscious, the character can make a DC 10 Constitution check once per day, after resting for 8 hours, to begin recovering hit points naturally. The character takes a penalty on this roll equal to his negative hit point total. Failing this check causes the character to lose 1 hit point, but this does not cause the character to become unconscious. Once a character makes this check, he continues to heal naturally and is no longer in danger of losing hit points naturally.
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I think it really depends on the situation. I GMed a module a little while back where the boss ended up knocking out 5/6 of the party and the last guy ran away. No one died, the boss had the capacity to heal the party, and it was far more interested in collecting servants than corpses. I absolutely allowed 5pp body recovery in that instance.
Venture-Captain, California—Sacramento
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Also, the 5pp body recovery recovers not just your body, but all your stuff. In fact it recovers all your stuff even if your body is not with it. Very useful if your enemy is more interested in humiliating you, and takes all your stuff and sends you back to the lodge naked. (Okay, I haven't quite seen this, but there is at least one scenario that comes close, where the enemy isn't interested in taking slaves, they just want your stuff.)
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In one scenario, my character fell unconscious and stabilized in his own while the rest of the party actually died. The enemies were slavers, so we all thought that my character probably got sold as a slave instead of getting killed. I paid for the body recovery only, the rest of the party had to of course get Raise Deads.
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I have allowed 5pp body recovery to recover PCs that I plane-shifted to Hell and had no way of recovering them selves.
But would you allow a body recovery if someone got plane shifted into the sun?
(Yes, this can happen in PFS, theoretically, if playing hard mode in a certain scenario)
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If you are on another plane or demiplane, then you could use a wish type effect to plane shift someone into Golarion's sun. In an instance where someone's body is entirely destroyed-per destruction or a similar effect-you don't have a body to recover, but you do need a true res or similar effect to come back. You can always use body recovery to recover gear, as was clarified after someone in the Season 5 special had their bow dropped into an active volcan
You can even use body recovery to get your soul out of hell. Basically, by spending 5 pp, the society gets back whatever of yours is missing, in the same condition it was left in. Mending and Ressurection still required.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. My take away is that other than the scenarios that explicitly direct the consequences of failure, table variation can be expected.
I had a character that got feebleminded and dominated - after the rest of the party plane shifted away - I used body recovery to get my "body" back (and extra money for the heal).
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Thanks for the replies everyone. My take away is that other than the scenarios that explicitly direct the consequences of failure, table variation can be expected.I had a character that got feebleminded and dominated - after the rest of the party plane shifted away - I used body recovery to get my "body" back (and extra money for the heal).
You were already feebleminded and dominated. Why would I bring someone foolish enough to be taken over by the enemy back with me when there are more worthy targets?
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The sun isn't another plane, but no. There's no body to recover in that situation.I have allowed 5pp body recovery to recover PCs that I plane-shifted to Hell and had no way of recovering them selves.But would you allow a body recovery if someone got plane shifted into the sun?
(Yes, this can happen in PFS, theoretically, if playing hard mode in a certain scenario)
If I recall correctly, Starheart (heart of the sun) is connected to the Plane of Positive Energy. The pressure would kill you before you could get your bearings though. Getting sent to the Surface of the Sun is a more sure way of killing someone though. Even if you have the correct Ioun Stone in your Wayfinder, and have Immunity to fire, the Fire elementals, plasma oozes, or solar dragons would probably kill you pretty quickly.
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You don't have to be dead.
There are several scenarios where the PCs could be imprisoned if they fail their mission. One at least one occasion it's been stated that spending 5pp will help get you out.
So if a PC is imprisoned at the end of an adventure, GM can tag "Detained" as a condition on his Chronicle and ask him to use Body Recovered service(5PP) to get himself back? So the PC doesn't has to be dead.
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Based on previous posts, Julien is the GM for an ongoing PFS1 campaign. As there are no separate PFS1 boards, this is the right place.
As for the question, it’s actually in the Guide 10.0 page 24
It is possible for a player character to spend her Prestige Points even if the character in question is dead, petrified, or otherwise out of commission in the context of the current adventure. In essence, this represents the PC having made prior arrangements with the Pathfinder Society or her faction to perform certain actions on her behalf, such as recovering her dead body and returning it to a specific location or having it raised from the dead. In this event, the PC’s actual location does not impact the Prestige Point cost. This cost also includes recovery of a character’s lost equipment or the need to hunt down and kill a character’s undead body before recovering it and bringing it back to life.
(bolding mine)
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As for the question, it’s actually in the Guide 10.0 page 24
It is possible for a player character to spend her Prestige Points even if the character in question is dead, petrified, or otherwise out of commission in the context of the current adventure. In essence, this represents the PC having made prior arrangements with the Pathfinder Society or her faction to perform certain actions on her behalf, such as recovering her dead body and returning it to a specific location or having it raised from the dead. In this event, the PC’s actual location does not impact the Prestige Point cost. This cost also includes recovery of a character’s lost equipment or the need to hunt down and kill a character’s undead body before recovering it and bringing it back to life.(bolding mine)
Thanks for point out this. We used to interpret this para. as how to raise dead only.
So "otherwise out of commission" includes Imprisoned and other unplayable (but not dead) condition and GM can ask for any reasonable solution, including body recovered. It is an RAW evidence.
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As for the question, it’s actually in the Guide 10.0 page 24
It is possible for a player character to spend her Prestige Points even if the character in question is dead, petrified, or otherwise out of commission in the context of the current adventure. In essence, this represents the PC having made prior arrangements with the Pathfinder Society or her faction to perform certain actions on her behalf, such as recovering her dead body and returning it to a specific location or having it raised from the dead. In this event, the PC’s actual location does not impact the Prestige Point cost. This cost also includes recovery of a character’s lost equipment or the need to hunt down and kill a character’s undead body before recovering it and bringing it back to life.(bolding mine)Thanks for point out this. We used to interpret this para. as how to raise dead only.
So "otherwise out of commission" includes Imprisoned and other unplayable (but not dead) condition and GM can ask for any reasonable solution, including body recovered. It is an RAW evidence.
Correct. Body recovery brings You and / or your gear back to the grand lodge. You still need to clear other conditions (using raise dead or other resources.)
The only situation in which you can't use body recovery is if the scenario specifies an alternative mechanic, or if you gave up your gear in trade. (No paying off the green dragon with your holy shield to let you pass and then sending the society to steal it back for you...)