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I didn't mean for it to be all evil, I just suspect I might lose my grip on the neutral alignment I was going to go for, if evil is allowed.
I have plans to make a future character for another campaign transition into CE to challenge myself and see if I can do it properly, but I'm honestly not sure if I have the experience to jump straight into CE and do it right.
It would be strangely fun to have a somewhat healer-type character (I've gone for healing patron) with evil alignment.
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Aw, man... *puts away ritualistic sacrifice tools*
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I don't usually put a spending limit per item at character generation.
'SUP?!
(Sorry. Took me a bit to find this again.)
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Okay, so, GM.
Looking at things, and your projected growth, I'm going to get Versatile Performance again next level. The suck part is that I don't (currently) have another performance skill, and even if I did, it's a bit odd to change how I play my character.
... so I'm asking for a favor. >.>
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... may I please just 'trade skill points' when I level to 6th? I think what I'll do is trade diplomacy and sense motive for perform (oratory) and perform (???) or something, and do something like that again at 10th.
Speaking of... would perform (magic) be a valid thing to Versatile Performance something? It's not on the list, so the options would need to be made by you. (My immediate ideas are intimidate and sleight of hand, but I'd be open to suggestions, or to the answer "no".)
If not, that's okay... it's just a real pain and I neither want to be exclusively a burden to the party before "and suddenly: class ability!", nor do I want to just waste class abilities.
Also, fellow players, I need two cantrips, two 1st-circles, and two 2nd-circles. My options include:
Cantrip: lullaby, sift, or unwitting ally
1st-circles: adoration, aspect of the nightingale, beguiling gift, disguise self, forced quiet, hypnotism, innocence, share language, weapon wand, or vanish
2nd-circles: alter self, detect thoughts, enthrall, gallant inspiration, honeyed tongue, investigative mind, seducer's eyes, share memory, silk to steel, suggestion, tongues
I'm already an accomplished linguist, so the share language and tongues might be overkill... but they might be perfect for the theme. Silk to steel might be worthless, but it also fits the theme.
Some things, I might just have as magic items.
What do you think?
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'SUP?!
(Sorry. Took me a bit to find this again.)
Dude, you must have a LOT of stuff dotted.
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Suggestion is a really versatile spell.
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... may I please just 'trade skill points' when I level to 6th? I think what I'll do is trade diplomacy and sense motive for perform (oratory) and perform (???) or something, and do something like that again at 10th.
If it helps, James Jacobs has said on many an occasion he thinks that bards should be able to do that, IF the skills they'd trade out are one of the ones the new perform would include as part of versatile performance. He even said it's one of his two "always on" house rules (the other one being Breath of Life is called Cure Deadly Wounds so that clerics can spontaneously cast it).
Also, fellow players, I need two cantrips, two 1st-circles, and two 2nd-circles. My options include:Cantrip: lullaby, sift, or unwitting ally
1st-circles: adoration, aspect of the nightingale, beguiling gift, disguise self, forced quiet, hypnotism, innocence, share language, weapon wand, or vanish
2nd-circles: alter self, detect thoughts, enthrall, gallant inspiration, honeyed tongue, investigative mind, seducer's eyes, share memory, silk to steel, suggestion, tongues
For 2nd: Alter self is versatile - mobility types as needed, darkvision in a pinch, and like all polymorphs, +10 to disguise. I don't echo Rynjin's suggestion because as a bard, you get that as a performance at sixth, right? I think it was sixth... Gallant Inspiration is just plain useful as an immediate action IIRC.
For 1st: Beguiling gift is fun with poisons. We have a witch who I believe will have alchemy. Vanish is a great emergency spell, but if you have invisibility, I'd skip it.
Cantrip: None jump out at me. Lullaby is a good teamwork idea if the witch grabs slumber, I suppose. Unwitting ally would be nicer if we had a rogue. Sift? Ugh. All....so cantrippy.
Bards get Suggestion as a Performance...but the fine print makes it useless.
"A bard of 6th level or higher can use his performance to make a suggestion (as per the spell) to a creature that he has already fascinated (see above)."
And Fascinate is baaaaaad. Suggestion (the performance) doesn't work in combat at all, and out of combat rarely because of it.
Bards get Suggestion as a Performance...but the fine print makes it useless.
"A bard of 6th level or higher can use his performance to make a suggestion (as per the spell) to a creature that he has already fascinated (see above)."
And Fascinate is baaaaaad. Suggestion (the performance) doesn't work in combat at all, and out of combat rarely because of it.
Once you have move action or better performances it's a doable option to fascinate as a move and then suggest as a second move for your full action.
Potentially, out of combat, assuming nobody in the party is making "threatening moves" like drawing a weapon, or casting a spell (not a spell on the target, casting a spell...your buddy decides to cast Comprehend Languages on himself it's game over man).
We have a Bard in out Age of Worms game. He's been around since second or third level thereabouts. It's been his goal since to use Fascinate successfully.
We're fairly close to leveling up to 9th (I believe, we've been 8th for a good bit now), and he has yet to manage it despite trying it at every opportunity.
That sounds like its very much so GM-style view on things. Beernorg? What do you say 'bout this?
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I say, chaps, terribly sorry - nearly ready to up sticks and bugger off, what?
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You're off by 5 PB, we're using 20.
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Lullaby is a good teamwork idea if the witch grabs slumber, I suppose.
I wasn't planning on it. After some deliberation with input from the forum, and later real experience, I decided a while back that shutting down enemies with Misfortune is much more fun than just putting them to sleep.
I could take slumber if the party really wants me to. I can still do pretty much the same as Misfortune with Pugwampi's Grace, but spells aren't as spammable throughout the day as hexes, the save will be lower in the long run, and it isn't subject to cackle (but the duration is going to be a boon in the long run).What happens if the same target is hit with Misfortune and Pugwampi's Grace?
EDIT: Also, I'm trying to decide whether to buy a Cackling Hag's Blouse since I don't have cackle yet, or a Headband of vast intelligence. Buying both means that I only have 500 gp for everything else. Thoughts? (My hexes are currently Cauldron, Evil Eye and Prehensile Hair, and then I'd either pick up Misfortune with my 5th level feat or at level 6)
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If it changes your opinion any, I was planning on taking Misfortune. I can roll with something else if that's the route you wanna go.
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Whoa, suddenly missing player influx! Yes!
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Hmm, that might free up some opportunities for me. I have no problem sharing the debuffing role, and if you have Cackle to extend the duration I can prepare Ill Omen to make enemies more likely to fail their saves against your Misfortune :)
It also means I don't have as much of a need for the Cackling Hag's Blouse and can just go for the headband instead.
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If you two are turning the enemy's mind to pudding, it certainly makes save or suck spells better options. Too bad I don't think the druid list is heavy in those until baleful polymorph shows up. Still, it should make the bard a lot better. Suggestion is really nasty, as has been stated.
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Haha! All ship-shape and Cassomir fashion, eh Vejese?
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Indeed, sir, although may I just remark that fly buttons are generally being worn done up this season?
I don't have Cackle, no.
Currently I have:
Benefit of Wisdom (Wisdom to Knowledge checks)
Misfortune
Witch Hex: Cackle
Oracle Revelation: Spirit Shield
I don't have Cackle, no.
Currently I have:
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Witch Hex: Cackle
I... missed something?
Hey, GM, you wanna "Player's Guide"* me to ten languages? :D\
* Sorry. Puns are inevitable with me.
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Ten languages? Ye gods man!
I'm not the GM, but I have an idea or two. Well, we're gonna be in Tian, so there's one. I'm half-elf, so you can secret message with me in elven. See - exactly the same with whatever non-human races any other player happens to be. Draconic, sylvan, abyssal, infernal, and celestial are almost always useful. ....if we're passing the CotW, then regional languages for that area, maybe?
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I... missed something?I don't have Cackle, no.
Currently I have:
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Witch Hex: Cackle
Whoops.
That should say Witch Hex: Flight.
Ah! Much clearer now. :D
By the way: that wasn't me trying to be snarky (the first one), it was just me being confused. :)
(The two can be hard to differentiate on the 'net.)
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@ Sweettea, I have no issues with you making that trade
So, ehhhh, when we startin'?
I'm waiting until everyone else is ready. I got really annoyed when I was 7/8 of the way through and everyone else was still brainstorming or MIA. I don't want to lead the charge again.
Mayhaps a deadline for character completion is needed, say by Sunday of this week, so we can kick off during the coming week.
A deadline is probably a good idea to get us slowpokes going.
Question: According to the Inner Sea World Guide, Tians start with the languages Common and Tien. Where we are, common is Tien. Can I then, as someone from Minkai, start with Common (Tien) and Minkai (instead of the second Tien)?
Man, it's hard to find a fitting avatar for a female human from Minkai that isn't super fancy, isn't Ameiko, isn't a ninja, and isn't this same one that I'm also using for my sencha alias.
I say go for it, that language issue is sort of silly indeed, I would expect regional languages personally so, go crazy ;)
So.
I'm not a doctor, but I'd say this is a diagnosis of flakeicus maximus. I had no idea it could be contracted virtually, but the evidence does seem to be that it can, by virtue of the hard flaking I'm seeing. This, sadly, is usually fatal for a game.
I've wandered over here from GTG's drink tea thread. Do you have a full party?
In the sense that a full group of people falsely claimed they'd be joining, yes, we're full up. However, in a much more realistic sense of people who seem to actually want to play, it seems to just be me and Rynjinn. A couple of other folks have made a few strides, but given the time stamps between their posts, I'm actually willing to put down money at this point they are out.
Sorry. I get grumpy when flakiness comes up. Rattles me more than stinky gamers - you can teach a stinky dude to bathe, but a flake cannot be changed.
I hope I'm wrong. I doubt it, though.
Well, I am starting up a new game myself right now if anyone wants to join. I had an existing group, but all but 2 people dropped out and it's hard to keep the current game going, so we're getting a fresh start.
Still hammering out the details (it will either be Steampunk, Wuxia...or both. Somehow.), but I could use two more players.
Will heavily feature 3rd Party supplements, mainly Dreamscarred Press' Psionics and Path of War, and then Thunderscape if we're doing Steampunk and Dragon Tiger Ox if we do Wuxia (and, obviously, both if we do both).
Uh...You had me until you mentioned so much third party. I don't have time or energy to learn so much new stuff. :-/
Also, as you know, I'm not a steampunk guy. I don't know what Wuxia is, except that it's vaguely Asian.
Uh...You had me until you mentioned so much third party. I don't have time or energy to learn so much new stuff. :-/
It's not really as much as it sounds.
Thunderscape is several new classes and such, but there's no new systems or whatever to fiddle with. Think of it as looking through the newest Advanced/ultimate whatever from Paizo.
Dragon Tiger Ox would be mostly used for the setting, one of the basic rules (everyone is Gestalted with Monk), the Wire Fu rules (which are simple) and probably the two races, Gaiwu and...can't remember the name of the other one but it's a shark-man. Feats and such would be available but not necessary.
If you mean Psionics and Path of War, that'd be a bit trickier to avoid, since if I was doing Steampunk I'd be banning all spellcasters in favor of Psionic classes.
I don't know what Wuxia is, except that it's vaguely Asian.
Ever seen a Jet Li movie? A whole lot like that. Much more of the martial arts philosophy and such. Honor and Dishonor take the place of Good and Evil, for the most part.
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I might be interested, if you're OK with the fact that I've only been playing for six months, and never tried play by post. My experience is also only as a GM, mostly playing with my kids. However, I'm sure that any play as a player will improve my GM skills. As a stay-at-home mom, it's just really hard to find a way to make in person play work other than with family.
Also, is the third party stuff you will be using available on the internet?
I'm fine with that.
Psionics and Path of War is on d20PFSRD, the other two are not, so I would be sharing my PDFs of them with anyone who wants to play.
Nothing just yet.
I have a Savage Worlds conversion for Fallout I've been wanting to run for a while, but SW is not very popular around these parts.
...also I have no idea how to code explosive dice (rerolling max infinitely) or the wild die (take the better of two dice) on these boards without multiple posts.
It's set in post apocalyptic Florida about 10 years after the events of New Vegas and I think 20 after FO3, and yes, there are giant gators in the everglades, because OF COURSE THERE ARE and tribals called the NeoSems, and Disney has turned into...Well, let's just say grizzled dudes wearing mouse ears with plasma cannons are a thing.
You use the Preview and/or Edit functions.
See, I preview and I can see those numbers.
Preview 2.
Preview 3.
You wanna streamline it for later reading, just go back and make it 10d6+4d6+1d6 in one line or whatever.
Take better of two die:
I take the 16.
Well, it's not always the same die. Your skills are a flat die value, but your wild die is always a d6, representing your luck, and you take whichever higher value comes up. So say you have a d8 in shooting, you attack with d8 and d6, and take whichever comes up higher...but if either reaches max value you roll again and add that, no matter how many times you max out.