Void Adaptation and Casting


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A Heaven's Shaman gets the following Greater Spirit Ability:

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Void Adaptation (Su): The shaman gains darkvision 60 feet. If she already possesses darkvision, the range instead increases by 30 feet. In addition, the shaman can see in supernatural darkness, is constantly under the effects of endure elements, and doesn't need to breathe.

My question is this: Since a Heaven's Shaman doesn't need to breathe i assume they can survive underwater or in the void of space, (assuming no crushing pressure or anything). But can they cast spells at all without any other special magic? I.E. would they need water breathing to be able to cast spells underwater?


Logic in a magic game... ask your DM.

... i am still waiting for, is an air elemental flight considered Magical like a spell, or mundane like a birds. To determine weather you need Fly checks to cast spell when an air elemental is hovering in the air. What type of fly checks are needed, and how often there needed.

Silver Crusade Contributor

Regarding the void of space, I suspect that the inability to produce sound may prevent verbal components (similar to a silence spell).

Underwater casting doesn't have this concern - I don't see any reason why the shaman couldn't cast spells there.


I would personally say that not needing to breathe is not the same as being able to breathe water. If you try to speak, you need to breathe. You can't suddenly start vocalizing verbal components underwater if you can't breathe water, or you'll very obviously start sucking down water and potentially drowning.

Much like if you were in space, you'd need either Silent Spell or to be surrounded in a bubble of air, since there's no sound in space.


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Ashram wrote:

You can't suddenly start vocalizing verbal components underwater if you can't breathe water, or you'll very obviously start sucking down water and potentially drowning.

Since the shaman no longer needs to breathe to survive can't they just suck in the water and not drown? The act of having your lungs full of water is not inherently dangerous itself. It's the fact that we normally can't breathe that water that causes panic and suffocation. (AKA, drowning.)

I would expect that the shaman could breathe in water and then, with a little more effort than normal, start to vocalize.

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