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Vampire Hunter is the only real Archetype against the Undead but an Inquisitor would be strong against them anyways by their spells, Judgements, Bane, and Inquisitions(especially ones like Final Rest and True Death) or Domains(especially Repose and it's subdomains)


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xavier c wrote:
Paladins don't have to worship gods. They get there powers from the alignment of lawful Good it's self.

Please remember that is only valid in some world settings. Not everyone who plays pathfinder plays only in Golarion. Many use the rules to play in old settings like Forgotten Realms or Oerth or home brew worlds that do require some or all divine classes to worship a deity. Some even forbid worship of a concept entirely in their settings (like Forgotten Realms).

Dread Knight wrote:
Vampire Hunter is the only real Archetype against the Undead but an Inquisitor would be strong against them anyways by their spells, Judgements, Bane, and Inquisitions(especially ones like Final Rest and True Death) or Domains(especially Repose and it's subdomains)

Don't forget the Final Rest Inquisition. Changing your Bane Effect to a DC scaling 'Disruption' usable on any weapon is pretty nice.


Deadmanwalking wrote:
Yure wrote:
Damn... and here I was thinking of a character concept for an Undead Scourge Paladin of Pharasma. Is that a no go?

Officially? Yeah, that's impossible.

Maybe go Inquisitor, that's got some of the same vibe, some anti-undead stuff, and works fine with Pharasma.

That is why Paladin should be redone as a Holy Warrior prestige class (with different varieties for different religions).

I remember mention of NPC Paladins of Pharasma from a PbP of Carrion Crown, but it is not clear whether this was just a misnaming of a Pharasmin knightly order in transcription from the AP books to the PbP, or a slip in the AP itself.


UnArcaneElection wrote:
That is why Paladin should be redone as a Holy Warrior prestige class (with different varieties for different religions).

Isn't that the whole reason they made the Warpriest? So Paladins can retain they unique flavor and folks can have a holy asskicker of any alingment?


Re: sucks to be Asmodeus: there's an 3pp archetype for antipaladins in ...Way of the Wicked I believe which allows LE ones iirc.

Check thatboomerkid's tumbler for lots of anti paladin goodies.


Gilfalas wrote:
Don't forget the Final Rest Inquisition. Changing your Bane Effect to a DC scaling 'Disruption' usable on any weapon is pretty nice.

I didn't I mentioned it.


Thanael wrote:

Re: sucks to be Asmodeus: there's an 3pp archetype for antipaladins in ...Way of the Wicked I believe which allows LE ones iirc.

Check thatboomerkid's tumbler for lots of anti paladin goodies.

Meh, who needs Antipaladins? Asmodeus already has people claiming to be Paladins working from him. They're probably just Warpriest/Clerics/Inquisitors/Order of the Star Cavaliers and other ne'er-do-wells but I love this bit of fluff from Inner Sea Gods.

"With the encouragement of the church, many go so far as to call themselves "paladins," relying on the reputations of virtuous crusaders to gain acceptance among commoners and those of modest faith. Although such armed propagandists lack the holy powers of true paladins, many supplement their strength of arms with magic items that allow them to perform miraculous feats. Most go out of their way to perform heroic deeds for communities in need or to manufacture then thwart tribulations for those not in imminent need. Thus Asmodeus's servants hope to undermine the common knowledge of their god's evil, opening the minds and hearts of everyday people to the belief that Asmodeus has been judged too harshly, and that perhaps peace is worth harsh laws and rigid order. Once even a few entertain the previously unthinkable possibility of living alongside worshipers of the Prince of Darkness, the insidious seed of Asmodeus's faith has taken root. "


Dread Knight wrote:
Vampire Hunter is the only real Archetype against the Undead

No love for the Kinslayer?


Gilfalas wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:
That is why Paladin should be redone as a Holy Warrior prestige class (with different varieties for different religions).
Isn't that the whole reason they made the Warpriest? So Paladins can retain they unique flavor and folks can have a holy asskicker of any alingment?

So they say, but while the Warpriest has a place as a Divine Magus analog, it just isn't the same as a fulltime full BAB Holy Warrior. Hellknight is an example of what I'm talking about -- just make different archetypes (yes, prestige class archetypes) and tweak it for a more extended run -- like the 15 level Prestige Paladin that can be found in D&D 3.5 Unearthed Arcana and in Kirthfinder, but instead of requiring and then slowly progressing pre-existing divine spellcasting, allow entry with no spellcasting and then (at least for some Holy Warrior prestige class archetypes) have the option to start a Holy Warrior spellcasting progression.


Entryhazard wrote:
Dread Knight wrote:
Vampire Hunter is the only real Archetype against the Undead
No love for the Kinslayer?

Ok Archetype that is available to everyone.


Dread Knight wrote:
Gilfalas wrote:
Don't forget the Final Rest Inquisition. Changing your Bane Effect to a DC scaling 'Disruption' usable on any weapon is pretty nice.
I didn't I mentioned it.

You are correct and my apologies for not seeing it. My bad.

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