How Does the Decemvirate Maintain Loyalty? (Spoilers: Eyes of the Ten)


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Eric Brittain wrote:

Has anyone stopped to consider that the only way we 'know' that someone was a member of the Ten was through a note left conveniently in a place that the PCs found it?

Since it is written down it can't be wrong, can it? Someone couldn't deliberately spin a narative that the PCs would unflinchingly accept without question becausethey have been habituated by their long service in the Pathfinder Society to believe notes that they conveniently find. Notes that tell them someone is good and someone else is bad.

That would never happen. Could never happend because PCs are never lied to or manipulated to serve someone elses ends.

Hopefully my view on this is clear.

I see the Pathfinder Society as having many levels much like old mystery cults. To me the Eyes of the Ten is the story of Elisa P. being inducted into the next higher level of the mystery.

You only see what the agents of the Society have carefully crafted for you to see. You do not see it all and do not even understand what you do see.

Layers within layers within layers.

Another good theory. :)

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Eh, I wish that was true instead of the black and white on the pages of part IV.

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All Kyra clones use the variant channel Decemvirate loyalty which affects onky pathfinders and wipes their memory regarding negative actions of the Decemvirate.

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Seth Gipson wrote:
Eric Brittain wrote:

Has anyone stopped to consider that the only way we 'know' that someone was a member of the Ten was through a note left conveniently in a place that the PCs found it?

Since it is written down it can't be wrong, can it? Someone couldn't deliberately spin a narative that the PCs would unflinchingly accept without question becausethey have been habituated by their long service in the Pathfinder Society to believe notes that they conveniently find. Notes that tell them someone is good and someone else is bad.

That would never happen. Could never happend because PCs are never lied to or manipulated to serve someone elses ends.

Hopefully my view on this is clear.

I see the Pathfinder Society as having many levels much like old mystery cults. To me the Eyes of the Ten is the story of Elisa P. being inducted into the next higher level of the mystery.

You only see what the agents of the Society have carefully crafted for you to see. You do not see it all and do not even understand what you do see.

Layers within layers within layers.

Another good theory. :)

The Big reveal at the end of Season 7 is that we're all secretly Scientologists....

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bdk86 wrote:

So yes, the Decemvirate isn't really good in that they are more than willing to let terrible things happen to preserve their status quo. And when they do want to act on something, they have to do it very subtly. This is likely why we so seldom get any direct orders from the Decemvirate; very few situations leave them able to or demand they readily intervene directly. The rest of the time, all they can do is arrange the pieces on the board (the PCs and major NPCs) and hope things fall in their favor.

Yeah, but the "not good" of the Decemvirate isn't of the "let's let Coventry be bombed so our secrets aren't revealed sort". They're of the "let's be particularly tyrannical slave owners" sort. They're of the "let's go to another planet, convince the population we're gods, and enslave all of them" sort.

They're not just making hard choices. They're flat-out schlongs.

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rknop wrote:


They're of the "let's be particularly tyrannical slave owners" sort. They're of the "let's go to another planet, convince the population we're gods, and enslave all of them" sort.

It is pretty heavily implied that nearly no one else really knew this was happening other than the person who did it.

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Kigvan wrote:
rknop wrote:


They're of the "let's be particularly tyrannical slave owners" sort. They're of the "let's go to another planet, convince the population we're gods, and enslave all of them" sort.

It is pretty heavily implied that nearly no one else really knew this was happening other than the person who did it.

If you read Akiton's write up in Distant Worlds, you'd know that this was one person taking advantage of an already existing situation to his ends.

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LazarX wrote:
Kigvan wrote:
rknop wrote:


They're of the "let's be particularly tyrannical slave owners" sort. They're of the "let's go to another planet, convince the population we're gods, and enslave all of them" sort.

It is pretty heavily implied that nearly no one else really knew this was happening other than the person who did it.
If you read Akiton's write up in Distant Worlds, you'd know that this was one person taking advantage of an already existing situation to his ends.

^ See the above. My impression is that this was an isolated incident that spun out of control and was exploited as such by the Decemvirate's enemies. That said, I haven't sat down to read EotT in detail as I've not yet had a chance to run it.

I don't argue the Decemivrate's membership has not abused their power. That's a given. But they wouldn't have gotten this far is that power was abused by all parties at every turn. Folks would have started noticing sooner than Torch and <redacted>.

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MeriDoc- wrote:
All Kyra clones use the variant channel Decemvirate loyalty which affects onky pathfinders and wipes their memory regarding negative actions of the Decemvirate.

I'm still waiting for the high level scenario where a team of Pathfinders stumbles into the Iconic Cloning Vats beneath the Grand Lodge in Absalom.

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It's right next to the sweatshop where they have all the halfling enchanters trained in Cheliax stamping out the CLW wands.

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And the gnomes cracking the dusty rose prism ioun stones.

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I'm convinced there's also a Gargantuan Dragon somewhere pealing his own scales off and casting Regenerate - so we're flush in Dragonhide Breastplates and Full Plates...

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Don't forget the adamantine smugglers.

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