You cannot craft spell trigger or completion items with metamagic feats.
As long as total spell level doesn't exceed 4 it can be placed in a wand. But remember, you have to pay for increased spell level and caster level.
So Maximized (+3) on Magic Missile is legal. For a caster level 10 wand it costs 30,000 gp.
Spell Trigger: Spell trigger activation is similar to spell completion, but it's even simpler. No gestures or spell finishing is needed, just a special knowledge of spellcasting that an appropriate character would know, and a single word that must be spoken. Spell trigger items can be used by anyone whose class can cast the corresponding spell. This is the case even for a character who can't actually cast spells, such as a 3rd-level paladin. The user must still determine what spell is stored in the item before she can activate it. Activating a spell trigger item is a standard action and does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
I don't think you can make a wand of silenced lightning bolt. I mean you could, but it wouldn't be helpful. Activating the wand requires speaking, but otherwise using the wand doesn't require speaking (as in providing verbal components). Silent spell allows you to remove the verbal components from spell casting, but wouldn't remove the word needed to activate a wand.
Extended (+1) See Invisibility (2) would be legal as well. It would cost 11,250 and have a caster level of 5.
A Maximized (wand of) Magic Missile.... costs 30,000 gp.Yup, that's what I got, too.
Just wanted to confirm it was legal.
Thanks!
I mean...you're spending 30,000 gp to purchase an attack that does 25 damage per casting with 50 casting available. Sure it doesn't miss...but that's a lot of gold for not a lot of benefit.
Also, for what it's worth there isn't a benefit for having it at 10th caster level. The number of missiles caps at level 9. Cost of 27,000 gp.
By the way, that works out to 21.6 gp per point of damage.
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I don't think you can make a wand of silenced lightning bolt....
I noticed that as I was typing the example, went with it anyway. My curiosity was only for the Magic Missile but wanted to come up with a few other examples. (And am quite enamored with the idea of Extended Invisibility, Tree Shape, Gaseous Form...)
Also, for what it's worth there isn't a benefit for having it at 10th caster level. The number of missiles caps at level 9. Cost of 27,000 gp.
There is no damage benefit. There are other (minor) benefits.
Slightly better chance of overcoming spell resistance.Slightly greater range.
I am not sure of the feats and class powers which allow the use of metamagic on wands, but I am sure they clarified the in the rules for those specialized power. I suspect casting a wand of silent spell, if you are permitted to create wands with metamagic powers, would be silent for the wand activation as well. Certain I suspect that's the intention, and is likely how I would rule it in my game.
You don't technically need any feats or class powers. You could always buy/craft wands with metamagic built in. The cost just increased due to increased caster level and spell level and had the built in limitation of being limited to 4th level spells. There is no specialized power to do this, you must merely be able to craft and have the spell along with the metamagic feat/rod.
As for silent. No, not even a little bit, sorry. Silent spell specifically removes the verbal component of spell casting. Activation of a wand is not a spell component. Silent would do nothing. There is no reason to craft it.
You could house rule it to make activating the wand silent, but it would be a house rule.
As for silent. No, not even a little bit, sorry. Silent spell specifically removes the verbal component of spell casting. Activation of a wand is not a spell component. Silent would do nothing. There is no reason to craft it.
You could house rule it to make activating the wand silent, but it would be a house rule.
Yoink, just went into my house rules! Thanks!
Isn't there a staff like wand ability somewhere that let's you cast from the wand at your level, and use your own slots for it?
Isn't there a staff like wand ability somewhere that let's you cast from the wand at your level, and use your own slots for it?
I think those are Magus Arcana's or some old 3.5 feats/Archmage abilities as well.
You cannot craft spell trigger or completion items with metamagic feats.
Do you have citation for this? There is nothing in the rules preventing you from doing metamagicked spell trigger or spell completion items provided they obey the other rules.
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By the way, that works out to 21.6 gp per point of damage.
Heh, you could probably do more damage by just throwing money at them.
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That wand would be overpriced, but it is legal. Unless you just have money to throw away I am sure there are better options.
Magic Items and Metamagic Spells: With the right item creation feat, you can store a metamagic version of a spell in a scroll, potion, or wand. Level limits for potions and wands apply to the spell's higher spell level (after the application of the metamagic feat). A character doesn't need the metamagic feat to activate an item storing a metamagic version of a spell.Just to stir the pot: What about creating wands of metamagic'd spells that you can cast at reduced level? If, for some reason, a cookie cutter Magus with Wayang Spell Hunter and Magical Lineage: Shocking Grasp wants to create a wand of Intensified, Empowered Shocking Grasp, it's 2nd level for him but 4th level by the book. So does it cost 15,000 (2nd level) or 30,000 (4th level) to craft? And would he even be able to craft a wand of Quickened, Intensified Shocking Grasp? 4th level for him but 6th level by the book.
The affect of those traits does not apply to crafted items, including wands.